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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
I take it the player will be involved, as a Freespace saga without at least one convoy raid just isn't Freespace. :)
 
How AOA managed to skip it i'll never figure out.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What, didn't you notice the fact that AoA was one big convoy raid, with you on the defensive most of the time?
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What you'll see of the Federation navy as an organization will likely be up to FreeSpace's standards of military discipline. I can't speak for individual characters.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
His point is more that we haven't written our main character to military standards. She behaves much more human than what NGTM-1R (probably) wants.

I find, however, that the protagonist's more human complex is what makes her so unique, since she is, by all accounts, a rookie pilot thrust into a position of great importance. I mean, if everyone in the UEF was high and dry, I think I'd go "meh".
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
I doubt it'll be up to NGTM-1R's standards

You've clearly forgotten my time testing afterall. :P
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
I doubt it'll be up to NGTM-1R's standards

You've clearly forgotten my time testing afterall. :P

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
So, WiH speculation...

From some tech info I read somewhere (possibly Intel on the Vishnans?) the GTVA seems to have this notion that all of the intelligence we have on the Vishnans is inherently unreliable. They did conclude (speculate?) that the trip-through-another-universe was probably intended to make the invasion force mentally unable to carry out its original mission... so uh...

What business does the GTVA have second-guessing an entity capable of sending its fleets to an alternate universe? Since when do you come up with contingency plans to deal with divine intervention?

 

Offline The E

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
It's the sort of thing you come up with when faced with an enemy with unknown, but superior capabilities.

And while the assumption can be made that the 14th's excursion was caused by the Vishnans, the probability that it was a fluke event caused by the Orestes' jump drive can not be discounted.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What business does the GTVA have second-guessing an entity capable of sending its fleets to an alternate universe? Since when do you come up with contingency plans to deal with divine intervention?

Godlike intelligence does not necessarily follow from godlike power.

Nor does it necessarily follow that beings with both actually have your best interests in mind.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Well they might not have our best interests in mind, but the fact they communicated with us suggests they intend for us to listen.

Of course I suppose they could just be trying to assess how suggestible we are... the Vishnans and Shivans might be in cahoots, or might both be pawns of some still greater power... Or the Vishnans could just be some cleverly disguised Shivans with a plot to expose our vulnerabilities by pretending to be allies. But I'ma stick with things being what they look like.

If an inter-dimensional prankster holds a death-ray to my head and demands I make peace with my neighbors, I don't try to psychoanalyze them, and I certainly don't do the opposite of what I'm told.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Cross the streams!
 
 
 
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-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What business does the GTVA have second-guessing an entity capable of sending its fleets to an alternate universe? Since when do you come up with contingency plans to deal with divine intervention?
Always.

Contingencies are always, always, a must. And the lack of them is inexcusable if you've had the time to prepare them. And if it is capable of sending our fleets to an alternate universe, then that's a stellar reason right there to start drawing up contingency plans for some kind of alien invasion or mass attempted deportation of fleets to another universe. Why did they send our fleet to an alternate universe?

Was it trying to strike us a blow? If so, when will they attack, and if they do, how will they do it, and how will we deal with it?

But basically, point is, if you know something, however little it is, you have to do something with that information. Here the GTVA knows some entity is playing funny buggers with their ships. So it's in the Alliance's best interest to prepare for that eventuality. Perhaps the GTVA has decided that ships that transit a subspace node and don't come out the other side soon enough is a good enough reason to suspend all subspace operations until such time it's been establish the Vishnans aren't trying to deport the GTVA to another universe en-masse? :P

 

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
I hope the first mission isn't a trainer.

First mission of what?
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
I hope the first mission isn't a trainer.

First mission of what?

War In Heaven, I'm guessing he doesn't want it to be a training mission.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
There are no training missions in WiH.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
There are no training missions in WiH.
What about Race?

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
From what I've read. . . . Just Human ;)
 
 
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
My first thought was "Temple - Matthew Reilly". :D

 

Offline The E

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
There are no training missions in WiH.
What about Race?

Doesn't _really_ count IMHO, as its purely optional and not in any way linked to in the campaign.
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Offline Ravenholme

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Oh ****, anyone reckon we're going to attack the Orestes/Temeraire during the plot? I don't think I can bring myself to attack either of them D:
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