[BritishShivans]

10. Two to convince the Erebus to engage, two to distract the reinforcements sent to help the Erebus, six to disable the Erebus quickly before it can jump out, and one to land the killing blow.

Or, what NGTM-1R said. But I'm doubtful one Fenris would be enough. Maybe 13. Possibly dozens more.

[Vrets]

The Vindicator. It fell over and died without contributing anything of value, just like most of us in this life.

Serious answer: The Repulse, for its colorful history spanning ST:R and the main FS campaign.

[qwadtep]

Or, what NGTM-1R said. But I'm doubtful one Fenris would be enough. Maybe 13. Possibly dozens more.

The key question is whether a Fenris turned into relativistic slag is still a Fenris. What's our frame of reference?

[Nohiki]

I'm torn between the Temeraire and the Guardian Angel, but prooooobably the latter. Temeraire kicks a lot more ass, but GA has better story As for sexps, it has to be allow-ship, because accomplishment yay!

[General Battuta]

Relativistic KKVs fired from range probably don't work on FS ships :science:

[SmashMonkey]

Relativistic KKVs fired from range probably don't work on FS ships :science:

But how then are the mass drivers of UEF frigates able to damage their targets?

Separate Note: I can totally see the 3rd Shivan Invasion going like this:

*GTD Orestes deployed*
Hmmm..... No Shivans here. Wait, is THAT A RELATIVISTIC RAKSHASA!!?!?!?!?
*Kaboom*

gg Shivans. No re.

[General Battuta]

Those are super short range and low velocity by comparison.

[NGTM-1R]

Relativistic KKVs fired from range probably don't work on FS ships :science:

That rather depends on the range, and if we can get them to enter and exit subspace at relativistic speeds. Relativistic SKKV strike.

[General Battuta]

That's actually how the Vishnan ultrabombs work!

[SmashMonkey]

Those are super short range and low velocity by comparison.

But why would KE diminish over range? There's no drag in space

That's actually how the Vishnan ultrabombs work!

Those cheeky b*****ds.

[FrikgFeek]

But why would KE diminish over range? There's no drag in space

Not space, Freespace. Drag totally exists in Freespace.

[General Battuta]

Yeah, you're talking about FreeSpace here, where unpropulsed objects stop.

But even then! Long-range KKV attacks are dangerous because it's hard to see them coming in real life - they're moving near the speed of causality. FS has superluminal communications and sensors. FS ships also seem to take up arbitrary positions and velocities when they jump, making it hard to target them...although I'd like to think there's some kind of navigational or fuel limit on the delta-V involved, or you just made relativistic attacks on planets really trivial...

This way madness lies

[BritishShivans]

nagari is the ultimate subspace kkv

the elders are a kkv

everyone is a kkv

please help

why are we all kkvs what is even happening

[procdrone]

This thread is for specific warships of a class, not classes!

Haha whoops! Saw that 30 secs after my post above, and so I fixed it

Which brings me to another point... How many Fenrii (plural of Fenris?) do I need to take out an Erebus?

I actually did a test. I've set up a scenario that throws the Raynor into Fenrii hell!

Average jump in range ~~6000 meters.
Attack ship positions: Front, Starboard, Broadside, Rear
Attack ship count: 6
Erebus stationary

So I did it like that, set up 2 ships per position, and make up 10 waves of them, all attacking the Erebus head on.

All front, front, starboard, broadside didn't even stand a chance. starboard and broadside only managed to land like 5-6 beam shots, while front didn't even made it to firing range. Once all of them were pulverised, only rear attacking ships managed to inflict actual damage.

So battle report:

Erebus destroyed.
Fenrii casualtise: 54
Survived Fenrii: 60

SPECIAL NOTE. If Erebus would reposition after defeating front, starboard, broadside, it would survive at ~~50% hull integrity, even if surviving fenrii were split to attack from all sides again.

[General Battuta]

Did you turn on the Erebus' armor and jamming? (Did you put local SSMs on the launchers )

[procdrone]

No. I just placed the ship in, and make it fight. I also set AI to general, while Fenrii remained on Lieutenant

EDIT: I used BP2 build

[BritishShivans]

no man the important question is that did the fenrii ram the erebus

did they embrace their proud heritage as kkvs and ram the erebus at -100% the speed of light

[qwadtep]

FS ships also seem to take up arbitrary positions and velocities when they jump, making it hard to target them...

So shoot the Fenris#KKV at arbitrary positions using a giant shotgun. Problem solved! 

Or just shoot Artemis Station and laugh when Steele runs out of fuel.

[Firesteel]

Toss up between the Galatea and Bastion. First time I played FS1 I was depressed for around 3 missions after the Galatea was destroyed. The commander of the Bastion was helpful for dealing with it initially. Also the Bastion saves humanity twice.

[Kestrellius]

i don't even