[Flipside]

Heh, as I've said before, part of the reason for the massive rise in crime is the massive rise in the number of laws it's possible to break 20 Years ago, spanking your child for being naughty was considered to be 'discipline', nowadays, it's 'child abuse'...

[IceFire]

I don't see spanking as being excessive violence or a slap on the check either.  I'm not convinced that they would always be effective but I'm not strictly opposed to their use.  But some parents have, can, and still do take things to the next level and thats where its traumatic and abusive and excessive and causes far more harm than good.

Its gone too far to one side right now...and if anything happens to some parents kid its always everyone elses fault and their kids never take responsibility for their own actions and the parents don't take responsibility for their actions in bringing up the kid.  The taking of responsibility is a big thing for me.

[Snail]

You can never get it just right. It's always slanted one way or the other.

Why am I saying this?

[vyper]

Heh, not as old as some, and older than many these days.

Besides, you're only as old as the person you feel.

edit: heh, now this is the HLP I know and love - politics out of nowhere.

[Darius]

I'm Singaporean! Any other Singaporeans?

Heh, not Singaporean, but it's becoming my second home. I spend at least two months a year there.

25 in October.

[Flipside]

edit: heh, now this is the HLP I know and love - politics out of nowhere.

Hehehe

@Icefire

Agreed, theres a big difference between discipline and beating your child, it has swung too far the other way, a child who knows that their parents aren't the final word is going to be trouble.

[Snail]

I'm Singaporean! Any other Singaporeans?

Me.

[Stormkeeper]

Oooo. Snail, seriously a singaporean?

[karajorma]

Agreed, theres a big difference between discipline and beating your child, it has swung too far the other way, a child who knows that their parents aren't the final word is going to be trouble.

The problem is not that you can't smack your kids. The problem is that for some parents that was the only way they knew how to discipline their kids.

Anyone want to tell me that this parent needs to smack his kids for them to know not to cross him?

[Snail]

Yeah, but I've lived in London for the majority of my life (I've only spent about a year in Singapore anyway). Usually I go back to Singapore every winter to meet up with friends and family.

[Colonol Dekker]

Snail is in London?,................



Why ain't i aware of this.  Are you paying the Dekker tax

[Snail]

Yes, there are Snails in London.

[Colonol Dekker]

If you ever lost your house, i'd have to call you Slug................



Muahahahah,  j/k



*dang pub lunches*

[TrashMan]

The problem is not that you can't smack your kids. The problem is that for some parents that was the only way they knew how to discipline their kids.

True..smacking is for those cases when the kid really deserves it (does somethign really bad after being warned several times). And there are some kids with which talking has little to no effect.
Talking, presents, bribes, blackmail, smacking - whatver works.

[Grizzly]

Removing freespace and all other space games from the kid's computer.

That's what happened to Joshua (temporarly)... He will continiue to act this weird, 'till he gets his games back and he has played long enough to restore the brain damage.

Due to school, this happened.

[Snail]

That's nice, Joshua, but please try to be normal. It's probably behavior like this which got you into the position you're in. Now go jump out of a window or something.

[Grizzly]

Joshua wou... Ehm.. thanks for the advice.

Actually, it was because of I setted my priority's the wrong way

Joshua's priority list:
1) Freespace
2) School...

You know what... I am going to dig up sushi's velocity mod and work on my own mod again... mabye that will clear it.

[Polpolion]

I don't see anything wrong with that list.

Thats how mine is and I had a 3.8 last semester.

Oh wait! That was freshmen year! crap!

[haloboy100]

Why am I saying this?

Because your snail. You can say anything

[Nuclear1]

or a slap on the check either. 

Sure, it's not abuse, but I'm not sure the bank will accept it after that kind of thrashing.