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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
I imagine it'd be comparatively easy to make a late T-V War or Great War mod for EaW.  No beams to complicate things.  SSLs could be Protons beams, colored different.

If anyone wants to work on a FS1 mod for EaW, sign me up. I used to mod EaW/FoC fairly extensively. :P
I've been meaning to get back to it for some time.
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Made progress on the Apollo. Thruster flares, and full primary armament complete (One bank of Avenger and one bank of ML-16). Shields are also fully functional. I've updated the link on the first post for those interested in testing.

In term of secondaries, I'll probably set up MX-50s against fighters/bombers and Furies against larger targets.
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
You EaW guys are forgetting that EaW is space and ground combat. Dunno how that would work, though there's single player space skirmish. But where's the fun in that?
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
You EaW guys are forgetting that EaW is space and ground combat. Dunno how that would work, though there's single player space skirmish. But where's the fun in that?

Oh right. :P
Well, noone plays land anyway. Though it would still work if we got terran marines, vasudan marines, and shivans (and have the battles take place...on ships...(change the maps :P)
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Two more ships ingame :


The Zephyrus will be the harvesting unit, I've already started turning asteroids into dust coulds/nebulae.

The Arcadia will be the main production/repair station of the GTA. External Polaris/Ganymede will be available as buildable subsystems.
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
So Arcadias are like...shipyards once upgraded? :D
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Yeah, bscly.
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I came up with the idea! :D
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Yes he did.

While we're on that topic, what do you think I should do with the destroyers ? Only be able to dock fighters for repair isn't too useful (especially since the AI never dock fighters), carrying them is irrelevant because all ships can make subspace jumps, and building fighters directly from them looks a bit overkill. Suggestions ?
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Would you be able to set a local pop cap from each Destroyer?  That might be a way to limit the overkill of just being able to build them, and building them could always be fluffed as prepping them for launch.

 

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Perhaps do something akin to the keeper destroyer in the old FX mod, you can build the fighters you want and they stay docked until your ship enters combat, then they automatically launch and attack on their own (the wold b more like drones but at least you won't have to manage them)
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Perhaps do something akin to the keeper destroyer in the old FX mod, you can build the fighters you want and they stay docked until your ship enters combat, then they automatically launch and attack on their own (the wold b more like drones but at least you won't have to manage them)

This sounds good. You probably want to cap the amount of fighters you can build/store per destroyer.
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Well obviously you would, but you wouldn't have a global limit for fighters, bombers but for the ships that can build them, this way you can build the max amount of strikeraft for caps.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
I'll probably end up doing something like that, but that need some heavy scripting and that's something I have yet to learn.
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
I'd feel it more canon if they were built elsewhere, then transferred to a destroyer.
 
I remember command briefings along the lines of "we've just recieved a shipment of xyz, enjoy" if they need to be built from an Arcadia module I guess that'll have to suffice in lieu of canon production facilities.
 
Looking great though. Research tree will be sod. I'm hoping we'll need to research default loadout weapons ie cyclops before the bombers can come online etc.
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I'd feel it more canon if they were built elsewhere, then transferred to a destroyer.
 
I remember command briefings along the lines of "we've just recieved a shipment of xyz, enjoy" if they need to be built from an Arcadia module I guess that'll have to suffice in lieu of canon production facilities.
 
Looking great though. Research tree will be sod. I'm hoping we'll need to research default loadout weapons ie cyclops before the bombers can come online etc.
Did you even read the thread?

While we're on that topic, what do you think I should do with the destroyers ? Only be able to dock fighters for repair isn't too useful (especially since the AI never dock fighters), carrying them is irrelevant because all ships can make subspace jumps, and building fighters directly from them looks a bit overkill. Suggestions ?
Though your post does give me an idea, how about building the fighters from the Arcadia and having them automatically warping to a destroyer with free slots and docking, and then it becomes automated et etc?
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Yep. I did read it. I read it all. In the first few posts it says it's a Freespace mod  for Freespace fans.
 
Hence my canon comment ;p
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Yep. I did read it. I read it all. In the first few posts it says it's a Freespace mod  for Freespace fans.
 
Hence my canon comment ;p
Well uh, no one was saying it wasn't canon.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
I don't understand why you asked me if I read the thread then.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Secret bomb God.
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
I'm not so sure about fighters only being "stored" on ships. Thanks to the subspace drives fighters could start from a base or ship several jumps away (in terms of HW from off the current battlefield). And the Arcadia surely has it's own fighter complement too.
Would it be possible to limit the fighers ammunition, to force the player to periodically dock the fighters to a base or capitol ship to keep them effective?
If not, perhaps re-introducing fuel for fighters like in HW1 might be a good idea.

Come to think of it, you didn't mention destroyable subsystems so far. Will it be possible to shoot some of the weapons off of capships?