[Ashrak]

ok umm i got idea off VWBB:

well first lets make rank in FS2 actually usefull how about make an interface for capship flying a bridge (something like ST: Bridge Commander) and give the player ships depending on rank like you can choose to fly a fenris at rank of liutennant in multy or singleplayer as you gain rank you gain better ships aeolius etc etc


now you ask turrets they currently aim at multiple targets right...
well there is a way out make something of an automatic turret controll but the player flying the ship can allso override it and target targets that he wants manually....


to make the capship flying more interesting lets offer an upgrade solution come up with interface to upgrade (say we are a captain got orion right) the ship so you can stick available stuff like ultra anti fighterbeams on the ship....

now you ask why not stick mostly all ultra antis on ship.
well we could make a weapon type flack, anti fighter beam heavy beam types slots. so you cant stick all anti capship beams on a single ship but you can allso make the ship more powerfull as you advance through rank


there ARE a lot of things like what do you upgrade for how to jump to battle zone etc etc. i didnt figure those out and this idea probobly wont go through EVER...


but still whadda ya think it would give a new perspective to FS2

[Bobboau]

nah

[vyper]

as someone else is fond of say:

Drugs are bad 'kay?

[Ashrak]

so my suggestion is THAT bad?

[Nico]

it's not bad, but you need another game for that.

[Bri_Dog]

It'd be easier to make a FS mod for BC

[Solatar]

Yeah, I think that would be absoutely awesome. I love the idea. I just don't think it could for Freespace2 unless you really worked at it.

[Fury]

Slow down there!

We have the source code yes, but that does not mean that we will actually make FS2 a multi-genre game.

It is utterly insane attempt to carry over features from say, Bridge Commander and Battlecruiser (3000AD / Millenium / Whatever).

FS2 is good in what it is now, but we can make it better in it. FS2 is about pilotin fighters and bombers, not cap ships. Few exceptions there will be, for example the big bomber from BWO and Whitestar from TBP. But they are not "pure" cap ships so to say.

[Solatar]

Yeah, but if he wants to do what he wants, let him. I'm not stopping him.

As for Battlecruiser Millenium, that game is screwed up. Whenever I open up the options menu the game crashes, I've NEVER flown a fighter with the keyboard.

[RandomTiger]

Basically as coders we want our efforts to be worthwhile. This is dependant on two things.

1. We finish then
2. Some uses them

The biggest jobs that we seem to be willing to consider are things like DX8 and hardware T&L. These should benifit all users and modders. Even the smaller jobs tend to be based on popular opinion or mods that look like they might come to something.

[Solatar]

Yeah, I think the DX8 upgrade is probaby the first thing on the list, and should stay that way.

[DTP]

the thing with people would like the ability to do a "LIVE" jump between two areas of battle during any given time, would create an enourmous stress on performance, hence Memory requirements.

you would actually have to have a Virtaul mission that is taking place in memory only and not on screen. and if player decides to leave that area again, then you would have to move the current mission area to the virtual mission area, and vice verca.

so thats way out in the future, if there at all.

Would be ackward if everything was as it was when you left that area upon your return. you would expect the battle to have progressed.

regarding flying capital ships. yeah could be fun, but then again for how long.

with bobboau`s beams you could already try and get the feeling

by making some really sluggish ships and begin fighting it out.

anyway FREESPACE is a space fighter simulator, not Battlefield2930.

[Darkmage]

jump drive ala privateer would be possible. you'd have to recode the way in which missions are handled. basically each star system would have it's own dataset with backgrounds and planetary bodies predefined. then you would have randomly generated ships if it were an open game like privateer. or you would have scripted ships in each system. I know a guy who plans to do this with the sourcecode but I don't know if he has a website yet.

[IPAndrews]

Well you could add a bitmap cockpit overlays based on a table entry. Make the player's own ship visible from his eye point (so if you were on the bridge of a Star Destroyer you'd see the front of the ship out the window). You could even have a cockpit geometry sub-object in the .pof

[Ashrak]

Originally posted by DTP
the thing with people would like the ability to do a "LIVE" jump between two areas of battle during any given time, would create an enourmous stress on performance, hence Memory requirements.

you would actually have to have a Virtaul mission that is taking place in memory only and not on screen. and if player decides to leave that area again, then you would have to move the current mission area to the virtual mission area, and vice verca.

so thats way out in the future, if there at all.

Would be ackward if everything was as it was when you left that area upon your return. you would expect the battle to have progressed.

regarding flying capital ships. yeah could be fun, but then again for how long.

with bobboau`s beams you could already try and get the feeling

by making some really sluggish ships and begin fighting it out.

anyway FREESPACE is a space fighter simulator, not Battlefield2930.

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umm why dont you use tachyon style stuff you jump it shows an animation of you flying by and loads at same time...... then you get to to place to place without needing loads of memory and preloading....

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by IPAndrews
Well you could add a bitmap cockpit overlays based on a table entry. Make the player's own ship visible from his eye point (so if you were on the bridge of a Star Destroyer you'd see the front of the ship out the window). You could even have a cockpit geometry sub-object in the .pof

Maybe a tbl specified cockpit pof?

[Solatar]

Yeah, that I might actually like. That would be nice.

[Galemp]

Nooo! You can't do that! I always turned off the cockpit view and used the HUD anyway. Now, a targeting reticle that gives the gunpoints, like in Descent 3, would be nice...

[LtNarol]

All i think that is needed is the ability for players at Rear Admiral or higher to be able to give commands destroyers, and only those at Commodore or higher to give orders to corvettes...

[DTP]

i know they do it in B5 and such.

but really picture this.

A rear admiral giving orders from a fighter, with absolutely no tactical displays.

The rank thing is there so that ppl can compare theire skills, not to have some function in-game.

And it would be hell for mission designers if players could order destroyers around. ofcourse this could be done so that mission designers could disable this feature, but then all would do it in order to have a "controlled" battle and then we are back to square one.

so i say it is to much for to little.