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Offline Raven2001

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Suggestion: model animation triggers
Ok, I dunno if this has been already discussed or anything so here goes:
I think that a very cool thing to have in FS would be model animation triggered by a certain action or SEXP.

What I mean is, in triggered by a certain action:
- You want to have a fighter with weapon barrels like a minigun type primary. In PCS you would make the minigun sub-object, that would rotate if a certain primary point is fired (or any other action, combinations could be many... but the point is that the rotating animation would be triggered by a certain action on the model...). Another useful uses could be a single barrel kickback when fired, or any other thing...

By a certain SEXP:
- for example, you have a capitalship that has a super weapon, but its turret is very weak due to plot issues. Obvously you would want to have some kind of protection for the turret, so you would make a kind of shield door, that protects the turret. Now in a mission you want the super weapon to fire, but it is obstructed by the door, so you would make a SEXP that would make the door open, so that the weapon could fire...



What do you think of these???
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Originally posted by Raven2001
What do you think of these???


I think that we'd all best run and hide before the RoboTech guys get here and start p1mping this idea.

Seriously, though, I'd be very surprised if this hasn't been mentioned before. As a matter of fact, I think I even mentioned something like this with reference to how the models were jointed and animated in Total Annihilation.
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Offline Nico

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Suggestion: model animation triggers
we (the robotech team ) already have programmers working on all the animation related stuff :D
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*cough* hangar doors *cough*

*cough* docking clamps *cough*

*cough* Sathanas arms *cough*

*cough* the living [CENSORED] that I want to include in Into the Night *cough*

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we (the robotech team ) already have programmers working on all the animation related stuff :D


Are you guys working alongside the SCP team?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Nuke

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i think think i convinced people to implement a descent style movement system, dont know if anyone is working on it.

ok, raven, i dont mean to overstep my athority in out little mod team, but CIM needs a phucking programmer! If you want to program for an EPIC scale campaign that will continue the legacy of the glorious game that is freespace, then join us now!
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I was about to ask if they wanted to share that code any time soon :)
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Sandwich


Are you guys working alongside the SCP team?


dunno, I guess so.
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Offline Raven2001

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i think think i convinced people to implement a descent style movement system, dont know if anyone is working on it.

ok, raven, i dont mean to overstep my athority in out little mod team, but CIM needs a phucking programmer! If you want to program for an EPIC scale campaign that will continue the legacy of the glorious game that is freespace, then join us now!


No authority stepping :) just your opinion, wich I tottally agree, but you gotta understand that almost every programer is workinh her on the SCP... I'm sure we will have the changes we require but it will take time... :(

I've tried to dig out a programmer here in my vicinities, but everyone is very busy (shoving their a$$es, cause I know what are these people business...)

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Offline Stunaep

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of course first we need the animations to begin with.
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Really? I would have though you make the best animation system possible (or sutible) first?
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That's what I was asking in my robot thread (move over RT guys)...

   Soon I'll be testing a Zaku for the Gundam TC. What I wanna know is can we do dynamic animations to give it a little life... Like jerking a little when afterburners go on. Or that Idea I had for the beam saber or any solid melee weapon. a key is programmed and that arm moves once out and back so you position yourself to hit a target at melee range. One sword stroke... Maybe l8ter other anis could be made for things like a martial arts kick (Getter or G gundam).... But I think it would look wicked cool... Thoughts?

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Yeah, that would be cool. Also don't forget about the Mechwarrior TC ( I think someone was doing one).

 
You're right... And I think I know who it is...
You guys said it couldn't be done. Well there is a ground now :) At least it's a start :nod:
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Offline Nuke

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i still want fully detailed gatling guns, with all the features, theese include:

barrel acceleration/deceleration, aka spin-up/spin-down.

multiple ammo types (tracer, armor pircing, high explosive, shield distortion, and so on) .

deflection angles (scattering shots), scaled up with rpm.

limeted ammo.

finally, a rotating subobject (part of the ship) that spins in a manner syncronized with the fire rate of the gun.

and that is a simple as i can state it. not that this is not a turret, and is under player control as a primary weapon.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Sic 'em, Venom!

Actually, I don't think so. You guys'll have tp ask Max...


What is going on in the SCP?The only things I've seen are nav lights and beams on fighters. And while the former looks quite useful, isn't there anything else? Please excuse my ignorance.
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Well, last I heard, Penguin was working on dynamically allocating the tables using values from the registry, and a lot of the coding work is going into the DX8 upgrade. This involves rewriting a rather large portion of the rendering code-thus the lull in new things.
Several features have been put on hold until the DX8 routines are added, because upgrading the engine will make it much easier to add them and it means that less code will have to be rewritten.
That's the current situation as far as I know.
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Well, last I heard, Penguin was working on dynamically allocating the tables using values from the registry...



Meaning exactly what?
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Meaning exactly what?


what you don't know what it means? it's like remotly cycling the superzaformer spline while creatorving the spoonz. What? it's not that? damn :shaking:
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what you don't know what it means? it's like remotly cycling the superzaformer spline while creatorving the spoonz. What? it's not that? damn :shaking:


:blah:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill