[aldo_14]

I can't help but imagine the Knossos is more of a doorlock than a door........

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Kosh
They were supposed to, but then they were cancelled for some reason.

The Aeolus was cancelled because it was too damn expensive to produce.  Now if I could only remember where I read that.

[FireCrack]

^
Well actualy it's in implication, it said (i belive in the tech room) that the allience was retiring cruisers becasue corvettes were more cost efficient.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by karajorma


The Aeolus was cancelled because it was too damn expensive to produce.  Now if I could only remember where I read that.

I've heard that repeatedly, but never found canon evidence to bear it out...the closest I've found is that on the official FS2 website they say the Aeolus was considered to be too underpowered to hold its own against other large ships. Which is, of course, complete and utter bull****...

[chris_2xtreme]

Originally posted by ngtm1r


I've heard that repeatedly, but never found canon evidence to bear it out...the closest I've found is that on the official FS2 website they say the Aeolus was considered to be too underpowered to hold its own against other large ships. Which is, of course, complete and utter bull****...

I read somewhere i think the Techroom that they only built two Dozen Aeolus's

What was the purpose of the Colossus anyway was it to combat the Shivans or was it a terror weapon to keep rebelling systems in line?

[pecenipicek]

its stated in the colossus animation. its supposed to defend the GTVA space from any future shivan threat...

[SadisticSid]

Originally from Inferno ships.tbl

"The Alcyone was brought into service by RNI following the retirement of the old Aeolus class. Sharing a very similar design, the Alcyone's standardised systems and cost-effective, modular hull improved on the Aeolus' expensive and proprietary hardware which forced the GTVA to abandon its wider use. The Alcyone is the core cruiser of the GTVA's Terran fleets, and mounts a vicious array of anti-fighter weaponry at close and medium ranges. The cover of an Alcyone's guns is always a good thing in combat."

Maybe that's what you were thinking of kara? I don't know if R1 had the same description but anyway, I can't remember reading anything canon about why the Aeolus was scrapped...

[Goober5000]

The GTC Aeolus is the first cruiser class ever produced by the RNI shipyards orbiting Laramis II. Only two dozen of these cruisers were put into service in GTVA fleets, with production ending in 2365. Allied Command assigns Aeolus-class ships primarily to guard slow-moving convoys against fighter and bomber wings, as these cruisers are severely out-gunned by most capital ships in service today. Their flak and AAA turrets serve as marvelous deterrents to smaller craft, however.

Voila.  The only possible reason I can think of for the Aeolus to be retired (and probably other people came to the same conclusion) was the expense.  The armament and speed are über - there would have to be a very strong reason to not continue producing them.

[Jal-18]

If you wanted to be really technical, you could point out that producing a ship and putting it into service are two differant things...but I doubt there are more Aeolus' flying around then the two dozen or so mentioned.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Goober5000
Voila.  The only possible reason I can think of for the Aeolus to be retired (and probably other people came to the same conclusion) was the expense.  The armament and speed are über - there would have to be a very strong reason to not continue producing them.

"As these cruisers are severely outgunned by most capital ships in service today."

They gave a reason, Goober. It's not cost.

[Goober5000]

That's not a valid reason; the Fenris and Leviathan are too.  But the Aeolus is far better than both of them at protecting convoys.  That alone should be more than enough justification for continuing to produce Aeoluses.

[NGTM-1R]

Maybe, but they don't build those anymore that we know of, either.

[ChronoReverse]

They're outgunned by corvettes and destroyers because those things are meant to kill cruisers.

The Fenris and Leviathon are even more easily blown away by other capital ships and they still kept those.

[FireCrack]

Probably msot levis/fens were great war leftovers.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by SadisticSid
[Maybe that's what you were thinking of kara? I don't know if R1 had the same description but anyway, I can't remember reading anything canon about why the Aeolus was scrapped...

The odd thing is I could swear I read it somewhere long before I played Inferno. Oh well, guess the mind's playing tricks on me

[Goober5000]

I'm sure more than one person has thought of it.  It's the only reason that makes sense.

[Kosh]

Originally posted by FireCrack


actualy mjnor beams are... well mjllnor beams, they are the most effective GTVA beam.

So yeah, mjlnorse arent Sgreens

(and speaking of wich, greenBeam is a great SGreen suplement)


reference:
http://home.att.net/~clay.h/fs2/beamfaq.htm

Yes, they are SGreens. Look at the table files and it tells you what kind of beam it has.

They gave a reason, Goober. It's not cost.

That means nothing. The Mentu has no anti-capital beams at all, yet the Vasudans kept it into production. The Aeolus was supposed to replace the Fenris and Leviathan, and it has over twice the firepower of both of them.

[FireCrack]

$Subsystem:                     turret01,30,1.0
   $Default PBanks:        ( "MjolnirBeam" )

[galonrever]

Increadibly late...but...you guys are giving the Hecate an INCREDIBLY rough time. All it needs is a few beam weapon upgrades, and she'd be sweet. The forward cannon's (2 on the nose) both need to be BGreen's, the 2 side cannons (one the engine fine) are fine as Gslash's and the cannon on the back should be upgraded to a BGreen as well. With these modifications, the Hecate would be able to hold its own. That said, it was DESIGNED to be more of a anti-fighter/cruiser ship, with the Orion taking the anti-warship field. The Orion has heavy weapons and they are well placed. The Hatshepsut beats both hands down though

The Aeolus is by far one of the best cruisers in the game. It has 2 beam cannons! most crusiers only have 1! (Rakshasa has 3 i think...) Its strong, and needs a call back. The Leviathen was hopeless, as its slow, weak, and has 1 beam cannon facing only forwards. The Fenris was faster, but still far to weak. Why dont they upgrade them with heavier armour and more powerful engines???

[StratComm]

Anyone who considers the Leviathan weak is obviously forgetting the maybe 1 time he had to fly against one.  Sure, we see them getting munched up by absolutely overwhelming forces here and there, or getting vaporized by a beam of irregularly high power, but the things are harder than a brick for their size and pack 4(!) anti-fighter beams with at least 2 covering any direction besides directly fore and aft.  They are slow, but since cruisers are primarily defensive warships by FS2 anyway that's not as much of an issue as everyone seems to think.  Convoys can move as quickly as the slowest ship, and the likelyhood of a Leviathan lasting through escort duty are pretty high.  The Aeolus lacks the armor of the Leviathan (does it even top that of a Fenris?), which is the only possible reason to discontinue its production.