Author Topic: Ryleh Campaign (FS1)  (Read 3312 times)

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Offline Yarn

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Goober has requested that I ask you guys about restoring Ryleh Campaign by Michael Diedrich*. We already have the missions converted and modified slightly, but they still need some work. Here's what we have so far:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/89353583/FreeSpace/ryleh.zip


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Offline Macfie

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We worked on this about three years ago.  I converted the missions to FSPort, added backgrounds and fixed some minor problems.  I used a Capella background for the missions.  We couldn't get anyone interested at the time with doing anything further. 
see topic: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=60336.0
Other than conversion, what has been done to the missions that are in the drop box?
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Offline Goober5000

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Oh wow.  I completely forgot having posted that. :nervous:  I suppose I'll need to start keeping notes now...

Anyway, all we've done is conversion and fixing a few sexp bugs.  Nothing major.  Per Zarathud's comments on the earlier thread, it sounds like he'd be fine if we just released the first two missions.  The other three were not as much fun to play.

 

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Offline Macfie

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I can't seem to get through the first mission.  I don't remember having this much difficulty when I played it before.  I tried reducing the difficulty level but even on very easy I can't make it to the end without being the only GTA fighter left and getting blown up.  I don't know if the AI changes since 2009 make the mission more difficult or if I've just forgotten.  I'm thinking about changing the loadout on the HOL fighters and bombers.  The avengers seem to just tear the shieldless fighters to shreds.  If I use the VLL-9 it would drop the damage some.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

Offline Goober5000

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I had a tough time too.  I finally made it through the mission by just staying away from the node and letting my wingmen have first crack at the arriving fighters.

It would be worth trying this mission on retail or earlier FSO builds to see if there are indeed any AI differences.

 

Offline Macfie

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I tried the same strategy but usually ended up with my wingman gone and the stealth bombers heading for the station.  Then while trying to take out the bombers I'd usually get blown away by the avenger cannons mounted on the bomber and bomber turrets.  I'm wondering if the station turrets would be able to handle the bombers.  The second mission seems so much easier after playing the first one.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

Offline General Battuta

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I can't seem to get through the first mission.  I don't remember having this much difficulty when I played it before.  I tried reducing the difficulty level but even on very easy I can't make it to the end without being the only GTA fighter left and getting blown up.  I don't know if the AI changes since 2009 make the mission more difficult or if I've just forgotten.  I'm thinking about changing the loadout on the HOL fighters and bombers.  The avengers seem to just tear the shieldless fighters to shreds.  If I use the VLL-9 it would drop the damage some.

AI changes? There shouldn't be any AI changes under default profile...

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Well if it was originally a FS1 campaign, not FSPort, then there are definitely changes between FS1's default AI and FS2's default AI...
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And there could be inadvertent AI changes introduced through bugs.

 

Offline Macfie

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It appears there were some changes in difficulty.  It wasn't specifically the AI.
See this ticket
http://scp.indiegames.us/mantis/view.php?id=2788
and this thread
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83631.msg1671333;topicseen#msg1671333
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

Offline Macfie

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With the fix to the difficulty problem in the nightlies, Ryleh is playing more as expected.  Once I get back home from the contract I'm working on, I hope to have something ready for a release.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

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