[MatthTheGeek]

can someone please explain to me why ****ing around in the hanger is such a big deal in a space sim

Because what they're releasing isn't just some irrelevant app, it's a pre-alpha preview of the final game engine and data.

For modders, it's the very first opportunity to **** around with it. Don't be too surprised if you start seeing in the next few months screenshots of Uriels in hangars or Hornets in FSO

[Deathsnake]

I think at Thursday when the Hangar Module is release some of yo guys search the files and take a few parts of the models (chairs, engines, landing gear, turrets etc) and we see soon more detailed Freespace ships.

[MatthTheGeek]

... it's more likely we'll do it the other way around, take SC ships and remove all this pointless high detail stuff that noone will see or care about ingame

[Dragon]

No, I like the high-detail stuff. If your computer can't handle it, get a new one. Those little things are why I like Scooby Doo's and Steve-O's ships so much.

[Phantom Hoover]

sacrificing accessibility for promotional gloss is a bad habit to get into

[The E]

sacrificing accessibility for promotional gloss is a bad habit to get into

Umm, have you been following the promotional material on this game at all?

They're specifically positioning themselves as a game for high-end machines. This is exactly what the backers have paid for in terms of visual fidelity.

[Mikes]

Coming back from Cologne right now and lemme tell you, those guys are unlike any developer/publisher you have ever seen. Sitting down and chatting with their fans over a beer in the beergarden, posing for pictures and signing anything from old Privateer boxes and Wing Commander Manuals to mere slips of paper while always having an open ear for questions and even being up for complete silliness like Sandy having pictures taken while being on top of a fans shoulders.

I'd say fan interaction like this didn t exist if I hadn't seen it myself. ;-)

[Dragon]

I should've been there. Pity my entire family is currently pretty much stuck with a rusty minivan that could hardly be trusted to go to another city without breaking down (it's still a lovely car, just a bit temperamental ). Why do our cars are always broken when they're needed the most? Anyway, I hope I'll be able to go to the next SC event like that with my father. I don't think they'll come to Poland, but Germany or Austria are somewhat reachable from here. Hopefully, they'll be close enough and we'll both have time next time they're in one of those countries.

[Phantom Hoover]

sacrificing accessibility for promotional gloss is a bad habit to get into

Umm, have you been following the promotional material on this game at all?

They're specifically positioning themselves as a game for high-end machines. This is exactly what the backers have paid for in terms of visual fidelity.

I think Matth has a point though, a lot of that fidelity seems to be in areas that are overrepresented in promotional material and underrepresented in actual gameplay.

[Rodo]

I think Matth has a point though, a lot of that fidelity seems to be in areas that are overrepresented in promotional material and underrepresented in actual gameplay.

And you think all fans will just droll over a spinning chair inside the ship, or a functional toilet seat but when it comes to actual gameplay they will just bend over and take any crap the devs devise?

Demands will be done in all areas, that's what they sold with kickstarter, that's what they promised, that's what we'll get.

and buggies.

[MatthTheGeek]

No, I like the high-detail stuff. If your computer can't handle it, get a new one. Those little things are why I like Scooby Doo's and Steve-O's ships so much.

Yeah, but FSO ain't CryEngine3. Detail will have to go away when porting, especially stuff in the inside where you'll never see it in FSO. And all the subobjects used only in misc animations we'll never use in FSO.

There's a lot of potential optimisation to be done here with very minimal impact on the final visual ingame.

[Dragon]

You seriously want to port SC ships to FSO? Why would you want to do that? Given the level of detail, it'd probably be easier to re-model the ships from scratch. Port FS content to SC, it's much more capable. Hopefully, modding it will be as simple as in FS or KSP (plaintext configs FTW!).

[MatthTheGeek]

Don't tell me what I can't do until neither of us have tried it.

Keep in mind that porting SC ships to FSO is also doing a proof-of-concept of, eventually, porting SC-intended fan-made ships to FSO.

[Rodo]

Someone downloaded the hangar already?

[Aesaar]

I have.  The Hornet is a gorgeous fighter.  Looking at and entering ships is all it supports ATM.  No buying and equipping things yet.

I don't have a buggy, but that might be because I have only one ship until the Retaliator is done, which will probably take a while.

[Deathsnake]

5 min then I have some pics ^^

So:

Enter the 315p

The rear door of the Freelancer. Don't know how to enter the turret..If I click use then only the Door is open/close...hmmm

The "Catwalk" in the Business Hangar


No Buggy And looks like the buy/modify thing is not working yet

[Aesaar]

Ok, I lied.  Customisation interface works fine.  There isn't anything to purchase ATM, but you can shuffle things like weapons around.

Pictorz nao.

The F7C Hornet, very good looking.


The customisation interface.  Works by pressing tab to enable the mouse cursor, then drag and drop.  A bit clunky, but functional.


Here we see I switched the wingtip repeaters and the nose guns.


The cockpit.


The gap in the center is where I removed the cargo container, and I couldn't put it back because it disappeared.  Also, can't close the canopy yet.

[Deathsnake]

Fleet is waiting for the Retaliator ^^ + Deluxe Hangar

[MatthTheGeek]

Hurr.

For those interested, .pak are unencrypted and can be openned with winrar or any similar archive tool. Modding investigation currently underway, more info coming soon.

[Phantom Hoover]

Do many devs actually encrypt assets? Using proprietary formats or common ones wrapped up in layers of in-house tools I'm aware of, but actual encryption?