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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 01:04:00 pm
Only moderators get icons?
Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 28, 2001, 01:08:00 pm
Yep, this is not (and is not trying to be) Warpstorm or any other forum, we're unique- and we also see no need for icons at this time. This may change- but not now.

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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 01:19:00 pm
Okay, but what about member status?
Title: icons?
Post by: Hammer of HLP 0wnage on January 28, 2001, 01:44:00 pm
5 posts...  but if you spam intensely to reach new levels, there will be consequences...  this aplies to all of you...

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Title: icons?
Post by: Griffon UK on January 28, 2001, 01:46:00 pm
Well sed m8

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Title: icons?
Post by: Hammer of HLP 0wnage on January 28, 2001, 01:47:00 pm
Thanx

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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 01:59:00 pm
Um...well...thank you for the warning.
Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 28, 2001, 02:39:00 pm
No problem - it's what we (dont) get paid for  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Wraith on January 28, 2001, 05:24:00 pm
lol@Thunder  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Anyway, I kinda like personal icons, but your descision here makes a lot of sense. It keeps the place cleaner, with a more defined chain of command. I ***ume that you guys will keep this place tidy, but I hope you keep the users in mind. Please dont own everything that is OT or not exactly FreeSpace. And please, please, restrict the deleting. Deleting all but the most deserving threads will cause dislike and unwanted feelings. I know the example is a little outrageous, but remember what is (or was) going on at the RN forums.

Good luck, guys.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


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Title: icons?
Post by: Wraith on January 28, 2001, 05:26:00 pm
*looks above*  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

Ohh God, please ease up on the sifting, okay?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 28, 2001, 05:35:00 pm
No offense, but please keep in mind that we do have a clear idea of how this board is going to run.
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 28, 2001, 06:58:00 pm
I bet you do!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Wraith on January 28, 2001, 07:16:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
No offense, but please keep in mind that we do have a clear idea of how this board is going to run.


Yeah, but I don't.
Title: icons?
Post by: Falcon X on January 28, 2001, 07:38:00 pm
I wonder if this color looks okay here?  

Shrike, Thunder, Setekh, and all the other cool guys, please post a list of what's acceptable and not.  How leniant you will be.  The problem that happened with the VBB was there was no communication.  Don't be isolated, cause this place looks great.
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 08:49:00 pm
Wow! We can use colors here (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 28, 2001, 09:29:00 pm
How's this???

Testing. Testing. 1. 2. 3.




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Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 28, 2001, 09:30:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
Wow! We can use colors here  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Try to use something a little brighter, because it gets a little hard to read.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 28, 2001, 09:33:00 pm
I think that's his idea. Hee  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Fantomeye on January 28, 2001, 09:54:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Try to use something a little brighter, because it gets a little hard to read.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

It depends which background it's on. Black it will look fine on, but the blue it will be a bit too hard to read.
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 10:10:00 pm
Okay. On black I will try to use a blue font.
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 10:11:00 pm
And on blue I'll try to use a black(or grey) font.



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Title: icons?
Post by: heretic on January 28, 2001, 10:11:00 pm
nice place you have here.
Title: icons?
Post by: Fantomeye on January 28, 2001, 10:13:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
And on blue I'll try to use a black font.(sorry. i have to find it first)

Hehe, gotta love the trial and error!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Or you could just confirm and go with the white font, but with HTML on, it's all up to you!
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 28, 2001, 10:21:00 pm
AH! Screw it. I'm going with the white font. It's much easier and you can see it on both back-rounds
Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 28, 2001, 11:56:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
AH! Screw it. I'm going with the white font. It's much easier and you can see it on both back-rounds

Heh, it gets to be a pain, then it becomese second nature.
Title: icons?
Post by: Jake Logan on January 29, 2001, 12:07:00 am
hmmm    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Edit: ok, but what about the personal icons? it'll bring personality to the place!

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Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 29, 2001, 12:48:00 am
Already discussed, and no.  This isn't Warpstorm, we're not here to discuss our latest social exploits and be part of an online soap opera.
Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 29, 2001, 01:09:00 am
Things can change, of course - but that all depends on your behaviour. Right now, we don't need personality  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 29, 2001, 01:10:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Falcon X:
Shrike, Thunder, Setekh, and all the other cool guys, please post a list of what's acceptable and not.  How leniant you will be.  The problem that happened with the VBB was there was no communication.  Don't be isolated, cause this place looks great.
Yay! we're cool!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Well, as I see it- thought this BB has a purpose in mind (the discussion of mods and the campaigns and so on on HLP) It's not limited to that. What we dont want to see is (but not limited to) the following:

1) Bad language, Flame wars of any type. Threads of this nature will be owned or deleted on sight.

2) OT Threads. I'm concidering making an "OT" area that is more heavily administrated than Warpstorms "Rift" but has no rules as such- just no flame wars and so on. If you want to post OT stuff as you would on the VBB then this may be a good place to go, but some of the OT content on the VBB is uncceptable here.

3) Discussion of other companies or people in a bad way (so no having a go at Interplay or people you don't like here please).  


I think thats it, but obviously you've just got to be sensible and enjoy this place. Thanks for asking  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


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Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 29, 2001, 01:27:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder:
Be Smart.

Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 29, 2001, 01:38:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike:
I really like quoting posts that don't existant.

Let's not start again  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Admiral on January 29, 2001, 12:53:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Things can change, of course - but that all depends on your behaviour. Right now, we don't need personality   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

We are the borg  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)


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Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 29, 2001, 01:37:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Admiral:
We are the borg   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Really? well- can you get me hooked up with 7of9? she's nice  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)



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Title: icons?
Post by: Admiral on January 29, 2001, 02:01:00 pm
LOL - You ought to see 7of10...

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Title: icons?
Post by: Falcon X on January 29, 2001, 04:21:00 pm
Thanks.  Why make an OT land when they can go to the rift?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Fantomeye on January 29, 2001, 05:19:00 pm
As for images/title and the like - later down the road we'll have a thread where you can post your title names and I'll change them for you. No word on images yet though.
Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 29, 2001, 07:41:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Fantomeye:
As for images/title and the like - later down the road we'll have a thread where you can post your title names and I'll change them for you. No word on images yet though.

Maybe  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 29, 2001, 07:51:00 pm
I don't understand what everyone is complaining about. This place is better than the VBB because of its actual seriousness and it's better than Warpstorm because it is actually about Freespace. I know it would be nice to have icons, but they havn't told us "No" yet, so I'm pretty optimistic about this site. Good job guys  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(only 1 problem: you need tux)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Fantomeye on January 29, 2001, 08:38:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
(only 1 problem: you need tux)

You rang?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tux.gif)
: tux : works for the magical penguin now!
Title: icons?
Post by: heretic on January 29, 2001, 08:53:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
it's better than Warpstorm because it is actually about Freespace.

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 29, 2001, 09:51:00 pm
You like my comparison?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Yay! Tux is back  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tux.gif)

Thanx Fantomeye (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 30, 2001, 12:09:00 am
Testing

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Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 30, 2001, 12:32:00 am
Let's take the picture out of our siggy, mmkay?
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 30, 2001, 12:37:00 am
What's wrong with it???

Edit: Picture removed! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif)
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Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 30, 2001, 12:40:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
I don't understand what everyone is complaining about. This place is better than the VBB because of its actual seriousness and it's better than Warpstorm because it is actually about Freespace. I know it would be nice to have icons, but they havn't told us "No" yet, so I'm pretty optimistic about this site. Good job guys   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Thanks for the compliments. It seems that this forum has fulfilled it's original purpose, and even more. I think I speak for all the staff here in that that makes us very happy.
Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 30, 2001, 01:00:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter:
What's wrong with it???

Because it causes cosmic repercussions with our karmic unity, mmkay?
Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 30, 2001, 01:13:00 am
Yeah, Neohunter, loose the pic please  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Admiral on January 30, 2001, 01:36:00 pm
that penguin could get annoying if we have warpstorm style usage  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

and I second the getting rid of the picture (sorry)



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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 30, 2001, 05:34:00 pm
I promise that I won't go crazy with the penguin like i do at warpstorm

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Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 30, 2001, 09:48:00 pm
There. Picture's gone. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on January 31, 2001, 01:38:00 am
Thank you  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on January 31, 2001, 01:57:00 am
Ditto  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Shrike on January 31, 2001, 02:22:00 am
Cosmic harmony has been fixed, mmkay?
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on January 31, 2001, 04:47:00 am
I was really hoping I could use that picture but for the sake of the entire FreeSpace community, I will not put it up until you guys say so

Hee  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Space Cowboy on January 31, 2001, 08:59:00 pm
   
Quote
Originally posted by Admiral:
that penguin could get annoying if we have warpstorm style usage     (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

and I second the getting rid of the picture (sorry)


     (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/hammer.gif) I second that motion Admiral! Who wants penguin steaks?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tux.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 31, 2001, 10:36:00 pm
Do you want the penguin to get annoying or not?! Keep hitting it and I can assure you, the penguin will get annoying!

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Title: icons?
Post by: Fineus on February 01, 2001, 01:58:00 am
Where did that penguin come from anyway?

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Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on February 01, 2001, 02:28:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder:
Where did that penguin come from anyway?

 
Quote
Originally posted by Fantomeye:
You rang?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tux.gif)
: tux : works for the magical penguin now!

*cough*  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on February 03, 2001, 12:10:00 am
There's another thing I noticed: There always seems to be a moderator around. I mean in the VBB, daveb hardly ever responds to anyone anymore. What I'm saying is that you guys seem more active.

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Title: icons?
Post by: Setekh on February 03, 2001, 12:23:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary:
There's another thing I noticed: There always seems to be a moderator around. I mean in the VBB, daveb hardly ever responds to anyone anymore. What I'm saying is that you guys seem more active.

I think that's a good thing. You all know us HLP Staff (with a couple of exceptions), and you know us as vets of the FreeSpace community. We are just like you - something we wanted to avoid is the 'hey you puny members, stay down there while we do important stuff because we are better than you' attitude. We also want to help. And being around is an important part of that.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: Jabu on February 03, 2001, 06:58:00 am
It's not just "A Penguin"! He has a name, you know  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on February 04, 2001, 10:07:00 pm
Heck the Penguin!!!! Make way for the NINJA!!!!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif)

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Title: icons?
Post by: Admiral on February 05, 2001, 12:52:00 pm
Indeeeeeeeeeed

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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on February 07, 2001, 08:41:00 pm
The penguin will always rule...

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Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on February 19, 2001, 01:12:00 am
No way!! The ninja will slice and dice your penguin!!! Muawhahahaah (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif) slice and dice!!!

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Title: icons?
Post by: Midnight on February 19, 2001, 01:13:00 am
This topic was 11 days old

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Title: icons?
Post by: NeoHunter on February 19, 2001, 01:17:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Midnight:
This topic was 11 days old

Is it?? Oops!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/spineyes.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/redface.gif)



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