[StratComm]

I was getting tired of the phantom Sobek that Raa's HTL version has become, so I plugged it through Max real fast.  I haven't tested it extensively, but it should be at least very, very close to a MediaVP version.  Raa's HTL Sobek v1.2, now with full collision.

[Taristin]

I'll have the Ares ready in a moment. And at one point there was a Nahema Bomber that I fixed the UVing on, and reconverted, but Lightspeed has the only copy of that, and he was going to make new maps for it before his life took over him.

[adwight]

pics?

[StratComm]

Lazy, lazy, lazy

It's a sobek, so there's only so much to show.  There are screens in this thread.

[phreak]

Is that floating turret gone?

[Taristin]

I know I fixed it on my version, but I don't think I was able to release mine. Hopefully Stratt fixed it, else, I'll send him the latest copy I have of the Sobek, with the fixed turrets, and a slight rounding of the engines.

[StratComm]

I did fix the turrets.  If you've rounded the engines then send it on and I'll slap it in, but otherwise it's taken care of.

[Taristin]

Nah. It's not worth the effort.


I'm getting a bit sick of the ares. When I get everything lookinf like it's fine, the damned exporter puts the cocpit glass texture ahead of the cocpit texture.

It shouldn't, since it's last in the multi-texture material, but max is a ***** and I don't feel like putting up with it. I'm too tired/depressed/angry to deal with it tonight. I don't know when I'll finish it, if I do. If you want to take care of that one, do so.

I don't care about my rep any more...


[color=002800]:sigh:god, I feel like just finishing what I owe people and just leaving. leaving and never coming back.[/color]

[Admiral Nelson]

Thanks for all the effort, StratComm, its great to see all these ships properly converted an in game!

Once the Ares gets fixed up, chop off the tail extrusions and presto! instant Herc II!

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Raa
Nah. It's not worth the effort.


I'm getting a bit sick of the ares. When I get everything lookinf like it's fine, the damned exporter puts the cocpit glass texture ahead of the cocpit texture.

It shouldn't, since it's last in the multi-texture material, but max is a ***** and I don't feel like putting up with it. I'm too tired/depressed/angry to deal with it tonight. I don't know when I'll finish it, if I do. If you want to take care of that one, do so.

I just ran it through, and I think what you're describing should happen as long as the cockpit is a seperate submodel.  As long as the cockpit texture isn't on the hull itself, then the glass will render properly.  [EDIT] The game renders things by submodel by texture on that submodel, and then the hull as the final object, again by texture.  Transparent parts should be the last textures on the hull, not necessarily the last textures in the model. [/EDIT] Here's proof:

And the model: Raa's HTL Ares v1.1.  The shield is still wrong, but that's not my concern.

As for the Herc II, the Ares, while using the same hull shape, has drastically different detailing and the cutouts made for that detail would be quite wrong on the Herc II.  So no rapid update for anyone there

And Raa, I don't mean to step on your toes with this.  If there's any problem with me working on these models, please let me know.

[Taristin]

I don't have a problem with that, Stratt. I'm glad that these two are finally done, and out of the way.
I'll go back to TVWP, and Origins now, I guess.

[WMCoolmon]

*Watches thread*

[Grug]

Originally posted by Raa
'ooh, ahh that shouldn't be like that'

Very purty.

Would the shield probem be related to the Max Exporter? Or SCP problem?

[Taristin]

The Ares shield problem is because it's the original shield, and V did a crappy job

I never made a new mesh for it, since I don't like making shields.

[StratComm]

And I never touched the shield.  PCS doesn't export the one that's there with the model, and like Raa I had no intention of poking at it.  The shield is fine, but like the original Ares, pieces of hull poke out through it in places.

[Grug]

Ahh. Shields are easy to make. Hell, I'd do one for it even.
But I just can't seem to get them to work properly.
Between the max exporter supposedly not being able to do it correctly and the SCP having some shield collision detection bug, I just can't seem to fix them.

[Trivial Psychic]

Why not do what I do and edit the shield proportions in MODview until the sides of the ship no longer exceed its preimiter?

[Sandwich]

Shields are fun in Max. Just make a sphere and use that modifier that gives you push-n-pull thingies to deform it.

[WMCoolmon]

Maybe you could take the original Ares model, slightly enlarge it, and use it as a shield mesh.

[Grug]

Yeah its easy to make the shield mesh. But I've been trying to get it to export, and then import via modview. It shows up allright in the pof viewer and all, but in game they seem to be all out of wack. In some places there is no shield at all it just hits the hull, and in others you hit it and the effect appears somewhere else on the shield.