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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
Tbf, i never did, but there's this button i can press to see what you post, and I pressed it.

Don't worry, I learn from my mistakes.

As evidenced by the fact you pressed the button to see his post again.

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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
As riveting as the continued saga of updates to your ignorelist is, please keep it out of this thread.
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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/star-citizen-backers-no-longer-able-to-get-refunds/

Lots of he-said, she-said, little to no proof, but apparently SC successfully argued that they don't have to give refunds in small claims court. If this particular development isn't the pivotal buyer beware moment of crowdfunding, I don't know what is, or will be.

One thing not mentioned in that report is that the guy sued them because he has MS and literally can't play the game they are developing now.


Around the 7:40 mark.
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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/star-citizen-backers-no-longer-able-to-get-refunds/

Lots of he-said, she-said, little to no proof, but apparently SC successfully argued that they don't have to give refunds in small claims court. If this particular development isn't the pivotal buyer beware moment of crowdfunding, I don't know what is, or will be.

One thing not mentioned in that report is that the guy sued them because he has MS and literally can't play the game they are developing now.

OK, this is a dick move, reminds me of when they removed certain non combat classes and jobs from Star Wars Galaxies making it impossible for some disabled people to play.
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Star citizen lore is good and well thought out.
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It's fine
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Offline Buckshee Rounds

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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
Star citizen lore is good and well thought out.

Futurama got around that problem by simply wiping out civilisation a few times as the centuries passed by.

 

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Seems like a fair analysis of the problems. I loved the comment about the big problem being that the creative director and the CEO being the same person.
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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
Seems like a fair analysis of the problems. I loved the comment about the big problem being that the creative director and the CEO being the same person.
Sounds like Duke Nukem Forever.

 

Offline Buckshee Rounds

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CIG have gone ahead and removed the maximum cap on purchased UEC, while retaining the daily cap.

Now the whales can enjoy greater immersion by sinking the economy through inflation.

 

Offline Spoon

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Starcitizen has an economy? Are they finally implementing basic gameplay mechanics? :V
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[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 
Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
It's always been pay-to-win.  Rubes pay for nothing, and Chris Roberts wins.

 

Offline Novachen

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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
"It is a game with no goal and so no win"... this argumentation is... well..  :banghead:

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A player that has lots of time but only backed for the basic game helps out by playing the game, giving feedback, and assisting new players. On the flip side, if a player has a family and a demanding job and only has four hours to game a week but wants to spend some money to shortcut the time investment they would need to purchase a new ship, what’s wrong with that?

This is the same argument that's been used by the evil publishers to justify loot boxes. I'm sure EA used this same logic to justify the loot boxes of BF2 for instance.

 

Offline karajorma

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He added that it was a "puzzle" that critics of the system don’t have a problem with the stockpiling of expensive ships or items but think that a "player having more than 150,000 UEC is game-breaking".

To be fair, that is rather puzzling. I have no idea why they didn't see that the game was already pay to win earlier. This just makes it pay even more to win.
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Re: Wing Commander 6: The Undiscovered Release Date (Star Citizen Thread)
Yeah, it's been rather blatantly pay to win since they started selling ships, which was like the very beginning of the project.

 

Offline Aesaar

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"SC isn't pay to win because if you buy the best equipment, no one can pay more to beat you (in that ship class)."

 

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Your logic is intriguing, do go on.
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