[foolfromhell]

2. Plus, will Earth have beams? Considering they have the wreckage of the Lucifer and a hell of a lot more manpower (Capella, one of the GTVA's largest worlds, had like 200million people or something), I would actually expect the UEF force to be quite strong. Of course, they dont have the new technology from the Second Shivan Incursion.

Am I the only one who hates the idea that the GTVA have less manpower than 1 system?

Spoiler:

Well, if you think about it, Earth has the manpower of 10+ billion people.

Plus, they have the resources of all the planets in the Sol system. The GTVA had fought a war with Shivans, have a much larger area to control, and have few sparsely populated worlds. Vasuda has been bombed and uninhabitable.

in my opinion, Earth should be numerically much superior while technologically weaker in some aspects. Like, better beams for Earth since they had remains fo Lucifer and better shields  (since lucifer remains were there) while better intersystem jump drives for GTVA (since Earth basically had no use for them) and better sensors for the GTVA (since they had a larger empire).

[Snail]

Earth happens to be 1 system. There are 28 other systems. I think the GTVA have quite a lot more resources.

[Molybdenum]

Check out Inferno. See how it worked out. EA aren't exactly pushovers. I doubt UEF will be just because the player sides with them.

[foolfromhell]

Earth happens to be 1 system. There are 28 other systems. I think the GTVA have quite a lot more resources.

Spoiler:

But Earth's 1 system has a planet with 10billion+. You have to understand that it takes a hell of a long time to colonize a planet. Capella was one of the GTVA's largest worlds and it had barely 200million people. That's 2/3rd the pop. of the USA... There wasnt a huge need or drive to evacuate Earth during the Great War, so its population remained intact. And, asteroid mining is very expensive. Even with GTVA tech. It would be much easier to mine moons, etc. which Sol has plenty of. And, Sol hasnt had external threats since the Lucifer. They have had a lot of time to build up forces. Plus, there would be mass defections in the GTVA force like we saw at the end of AoA and the Vasudans wouldnt have any interest whatsoever in taken back Earth. The Vasudans are a very low-population race as more than half of them died on Vasuda Prime. (Evacuate the 4billion prople+ on Vasuda Prime? Logistic and physical impossibility. They wouldnt want to waste resources in a terran's war.  

EDIT: Also, the UEF would have to defend one system. One node. The GTVA still need to make sure raiders are dealt with and need to make sure they cant be surprise-attacked by Shivans if they show up again. They are on the defense. They dont have to win the war. Just not lose it. The GTVA is on the wrong side of morality and this reduces morale (pardon the pun). This was a war of aggression against homeworld of humanity. They clearly dont have morality on their side. It's like the Confederates in the Civil War. They didnt need to take over the North. Just prevent the takeover of the South. Makes the job much, much easier in a strategic point of view.

And, of course, Alpha 1 is on Earth's side. But that's a different issue.

[Spicious]

Firstly, Capella is not a planet. Secondly, please present some evidence that Capella is a major system of the GTVA.
Let's see, you've also equated population with resources, you've assumed that Sol has an abnormal abundance of moons and that Sol has been conflict free yet at the same time experienced a military build-up.

Please stop posting using pointless spoiler tags.

[Darius]

Regarding Sol's relative strength to the GTVA and ability to resist: Terran Command was confident enough that a single strike force would be able to wipe out most of the system's defences and secure the system for the rest of the fleet to arrive due to Earth's relatively small military. However, like the Greco-Italian War from which the story draws parallels from, one can put up a pretty good defence of one's territory if the supply lines are short and one's forces are concentrated.

EDIT: Basically saying Earth's military forces are outnumbered and outresourced, but this does not automatically give the GTVA victory.

[colecampbell666]

Secondly, please present some evidence that Capella is a major system of the GTVA.

It's reffered to as "densely populated".

Please stop posting using pointless spoiler tags.

They're not pointless, some people haven't played yet.

[qazwsx]

They're not pointless, some people haven't played yet.

i.e. dial-uppers, people with tiny hard drives and people with no common sense.
so about half of HLP really...

[ShadowGorrath]

They're not pointless, some people haven't played yet.

i.e. dial-uppers, people with tiny hard drives and people with no common sense.
so about half of HLP really...

There are actually people who haven't played it AND refuse to play it ( no voice acting, just don't wanna, not MP, seems bad, it will ruin my credibility or whatever ). At least for now...

[Jeff Vader]

There are actually people who haven't played it AND refuse to play it ( no voice acting,

The no-voice-acting part seems to deter a large amount of players away from several classy campaigns. Meh. Their loss.

[Spicious]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who haven't played FS1 or FS2 reading this thread. Plenty who don't want to know how many people you think might be living on Earth by the time this happens or the relative resource gathering capacities of various systems.

If you decide to read through this thread after refusing to play, you deserve what you get.

[BloodEagle]

I'd rather play a campaign with no voice acting than a campaign with bad voice acting (*cough*I bet you thought that I'd name a campaign here*cough*).

[tinfoil]

(*cough*I bet you thought that I'd name a campaign here*cough*).

Well it was kinda implied

[Akalabeth Angel]

I'd rather play a campaign with no voice acting than a campaign with bad voice acting (*cough*I bet you thought that I'd name a campaign here*cough*).

You're a bugger.

[Droid803]

lol. Is there even an example? Only good campaigns ever get voice acted anyway, right?

[Dark Hunter]

Well, a later release of JAD 1 sort of had voice acting... I think it was all computer voices. Pretty damn good for artificial voices, but still... I prefer the non-voiced version.

[General Battuta]

I don't know if this qualifies as a bug or an issue, but I was able to disable the Duke as it made its way past the Minnow (I believe it was one part of Journey of a Thousand Miles.) I did this by kicking engine power up to full and simply firing primaries and Harpoons into the engines until they exploded.

It should be pretty easy to fix.

[CKid]

Another ship added to the UEF fleet: The UEB Durga

[Retsof]

Holy crap that thing is LOADED!

[Droid803]

Did that use to be a...FTB Saracen?