[colecampbell666]

Am I th' only one who thinks wot th' new GTC Raynor class is a hunk o' pure, shiny sex, with a chest full of booty?
 

GTD Raynor.  Get yer ship classifications starboard, and a bucket o' chum!
 But aye, it is awesome.

EDIT: Starboard? I MEANT CORRECT!

Well you sure as hell didin't want him to get his classes left.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Well you sure as hell didin't want him to get his classes left.

...or port, as ship jargon may be.

[colecampbell666]

[Mongoose]

There are a few important things in that mission. Speed matters. Obviously, you shouldn't fly an Ursa. Firepower, particularly the anti-subsystem kind, matters. The Lilith's beam cannon isn't that tough, and once it goes down the ship doesn't matter much any more. Lastly, wingmen. Don't let them waste their firepower destroying a disarmed warship. Use them as best as possible--the disarm and destroy subsystem orders are your friends.

I actually managed to make it through soon after I posted that; I think I finally managed to keep track of which wings I had assigned to protect which ships.  Switching to something with the ability to carry Trebuchets was a big help as well.  Unfortunately, I swiftly managed to get stuck on yet another mission.

Spoiler:

It's soon after you join up with the Vishnans (another crazy plot twist, by the way), when you're attempting to escort the Vishnan Keeper through a blockade of two Ravanas.  The Ravanas rip into the Keeper apart long before I can get remotely close enough to disarm them (which is a trial in and of itself with the glitched MediaVP model...), and even when I manage to do that, the Liliths and bombers and whatnot are tearing into whatever's left of it.  At least with the previous problem I had, I knew it was simply a matter of needing to work faster and assign my wingmen more effectively; I haven't the foggiest idea what to do here.  And the lack of a failure recommendation isn't making things easier.

(Oh, and one more tiny glitch to report: there were a few times when my ship was released from a cutscene that I had to manually re-activate my HUD to get it to appear.  I don't know if that's on the FRED end of things, or something going on with this particular build.)

[Renegade]

Yes i had the same HUD problem.
I use the Build 20080911_rev4810.

Spoiler:

So now my English is not so good and i don't understand why the Orestes attacked the UEF Vessel.
Will be now again in a different Universe? In a Universe where the GTVA stand on the Dark side of the Force ?? Like the Devil empire in Star Wars ?

And who is Admiral Bei ??? I know Capt. Bei but Admiral Bei in sol ??
Its possible that i misunderstand any Storytelling about my bad English skills

I hope any can help me to understanding this. (if you want in German Language or easy understanding English)

Greetings Peter

[Jeff Vader]

Spoiler:

So now my English is not so good and i don't understand why the Orestes attacked the UEF Vessel.
Will be now again in a different Universe? In a Universe where the GTVA stand on the Dark side of the Force ?? Like the Devil empire in Star Wars ?

And who is Admiral Bei ??? I know Capt. Bei but Admiral Bei in sol ??
Its possible that i misunderstand any Storytelling about my bad English skills

I hope any can help me to understanding this. (if you want in German Language or easy understanding English)

Spoiler:

The task force engaged the UEF vessel, because the GTVA wants Sol to be GTVA and Sol wants to be... well, Sol.

Admiral Bei was the CO of the Orestes during the campaign, or at least up to the point when he flew away. And the father of Samuel Bei.

[G0atmaster]

Spoiler:

It's soon after you join up with the Vishnans (another crazy plot twist, by the way), when you're attempting to escort the Vishnan Keeper through a blockade of two Ravanas.  The Ravanas rip into the Keeper apart long before I can get remotely close enough to disarm them (which is a trial in and of itself with the glitched MediaVP model...), and even when I manage to do that, the Liliths and bombers and whatnot are tearing into whatever's left of it.  At least with the previous problem I had, I knew it was simply a matter of needing to work faster and assign my wingmen more effectively; I haven't the foggiest idea what to do here.  And the lack of a failure recommendation isn't making things easier.

Spoiler:

  The Ravanas do typically tear into the Keeper a bit.  But if you put all power to the engines, hit your burners repeatedly, and focus solely on the two front beam cannons of each ship, they shouldn't be able to do too much damage.  They're very lightly armored.  All guns blazing, I was only able to hit it with missiles twice before each beam cannon went down.

Don't worry about the one on top, only the forward two NEED to be taken out.  The top one's secondary.

[General Battuta]

There are a few important things in that mission. Speed matters. Obviously, you shouldn't fly an Ursa. Firepower, particularly the anti-subsystem kind, matters. The Lilith's beam cannon isn't that tough, and once it goes down the ship doesn't matter much any more. Lastly, wingmen. Don't let them waste their firepower destroying a disarmed warship. Use them as best as possible--the disarm and destroy subsystem orders are your friends.

I actually managed to make it through soon after I posted that; I think I finally managed to keep track of which wings I had assigned to protect which ships.  Switching to something with the ability to carry Trebuchets was a big help as well.  Unfortunately, I swiftly managed to get stuck on yet another mission.

Spoiler:

It's soon after you join up with the Vishnans (another crazy plot twist, by the way), when you're attempting to escort the Vishnan Keeper through a blockade of two Ravanas.  The Ravanas rip into the Keeper apart long before I can get remotely close enough to disarm them (which is a trial in and of itself with the glitched MediaVP model...), and even when I manage to do that, the Liliths and bombers and whatnot are tearing into whatever's left of it.  At least with the previous problem I had, I knew it was simply a matter of needing to work faster and assign my wingmen more effectively; I haven't the foggiest idea what to do here.  And the lack of a failure recommendation isn't making things easier.

(Oh, and one more tiny glitch to report: there were a few times when my ship was released from a cutscene that I had to manually re-activate my HUD to get it to appear.  I don't know if that's on the FRED end of things, or something going on with this particular build.)

KEEPERS OF HELL.

Hardest mission EVER.

Just...keep trying. And download the fixed Ravana. Oh, and for God's sake, tell your wingmen to stay near the Keeper and not follow you -- that way they'll actually have a chance at living. Tell them to ignore the Moloch and other capital ships too, including the Ravanas.

[blowfish]

Here's how I play that mission:

Spoiler:

Head as quickly as possible for the nearest Ravana.  When the Keeper jumps in, order all of your wingmen to protect it.  When you reach the Ravana, destroy its main beams, and then go for the other Ravana's beams.  Hopefully most of the Shivan fighters will ignore you.  When you're done, head as fast as possible for the nearest Lilith, and destroy its main beam.  Do the same to the other Lilith.  By now, the Keeper's hull should be around 20% (give or take).  Go for the bombers now, but the Keeper isn't in much danger once you destroy all of the LReds.

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

I do the same, except that I then fly back to the Ravanas and take out their secondary scorpion-tail beams.

Those have destroyed the Keeper more than once.

[blowfish]

Spoiler:

I do the same, except that I then fly back to the Ravanas and take out their secondary scorpion-tail beams.

Those have destroyed the Keeper more than once.

Odd ... I've never seen those SReds have any significant effect...

[G0atmaster]

the other way is Shift+~+I on the keeper.

[Snail]

the other way is Shift+~+I on the keeper.

I think you mean ~K, right?

Or better yet, ~U

[Aardwolf]

I think you mean ~K, right?

Yes, because he totally wants to destroy the ship he's trying to protect.

[Jeff Vader]

I think you mean ~K, right?

Yes, because he totally wants to destroy the ship he's trying to protect.

Don't we all?

[Mongoose]

Heh, nice to know I'm not alone in my frustration.  I know it's another case of "keep bashing your head against the brick wall until you manage to break through," but I haven't yet gotten around to resuming the bashing.

[Aardwolf]

I don't remember how I beat that mission, but I don't think I had to retry it more than once.

Reduce difficulty?

[Mongoose]

I've never played FS on anything but Easy, and I'm not about to debase myself by going any lower.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I always play it on Very Easy, even with the cheats enabled.

[TopAce]

I've never played FS on anything but Easy, and I'm not about to debase myself by going any lower.

I usually playtest on Medium, but automatically go down to Easy if I play a user-made campaign. It's because of the first horrible experience with a user-made campaign (in my case, Derelict). I assume we have something in common?