[Singh]

Hi - just wanted ask if their is a way in FRED to set an 'Attacked-by-ship' event? the reason is im making a mission where Alpha 1 has to choose between attacking 1 group of GTVA ships or the other. Thing is, for it to work, Alpha 1 will have to attack and destroy that ship belonging to whichever side is chosen......but a different set of events will take place depending on which ship he chooses to attack.....

I found a way to do this indirectly via the Missile Lock sexp, but the problem is that my ship, at that point of time, has no secondary weapons, or the aspect seeking weapons for that matter.

If there is another way to get the above event to come true or do we have a SexP already and i'm blind?

[Black Wolf]

Try checking Protect ship in the ships properties. Then you'll know if it was destroyed, it was Alpha 1 that did it. If this is unacceptable, you may have to play around with stuff like ship facing and the like.

[Singh]

Originally posted by Black Wolf
Try checking Protect ship in the ships properties. Then you'll know if it was destroyed, it was Alpha 1 that did it. If this is unacceptable, you may have to play around with stuff like ship facing and the like.

hmmm...interesting.....may be able to get it to work.....ill try

btw if this can be programmed insomehow, it would be a lot more helpfull

[karajorma]

I asked for a player-damage-caused SEXP in the SCP thread when I had a similar problem but never got one. I guess it was too hard.

BTW are you doing anything MG releated at the moment? You've been kinda quiet on the internal.

[Singh]

Originally posted by karajorma
I asked for a player-damage-caused SEXP in the SCP thread when I had a similar problem but never got one. I guess it was too hard.

BTW are you doing anything MG releated at the moment? You've been kinda quiet on the internal.

lack of anything except on-screen keyboard & p2 that cant play fs2 prevents one from doing much....
managed to do a lot of FREDding for one star trek mission(most complex one i have attempted so far) at uncles place yesterday, but 'll be moving back toMG after that - need to play a mod that doesnt lag my uncle's system to hell and back

[magatsu1]

How about using the "button pressed" SEXP. Kinda like having the player make a decision on the fly, rather than having to actually take the time to kill a ship.

[karajorma]

That's how this sort of thing is sometimes handled but it's a little unrealistic. Plus what happens if the player doesn't notice the message in the heat of battle?

[magatsu1]

I was thinking directive text aswell. Maybe friendly fighters could use the event to decide also. Maybe.

[karajorma]

I rarely notice directives until there is a lull in the fighting I'm probably not alone

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by karajorma
I asked for a player-damage-caused SEXP in the SCP thread when I had a similar problem but never got one. I guess it was too hard.

Ask again.  Sometimes we forget.  Especially during a code freeze.

[CP5670]

I would also find this useful in one mission where you are not supposed to attack civilian targets. There are ways around it though; the way I have it right now is that the required ships are protect ships and the game then checks if any of their strengths fall below certain levels.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by CP5670
I would also find this useful in one mission where you are not supposed to attack civilian targets. There are ways around it though; the way I have it right now is that the required ships are protect ships and the game then checks if any of their strengths fall below certain levels.

Yeah. That's what I did but the problem is that there is always the worrying chance of getting false positives.

The damage caused SEXP would be very useful. I'll bump it as soon as the code freeze is over. Although I did suggest it long before the freeze begun

[magatsu1]

Originally posted by karajorma
false positives.

what's that then ?

[CP5670]

Yeah. That's what I did but the problem is that there is always the worrying chance of getting false positives.

I had that problem at one point as well due to the unerring accuracy of the enemy AI fighters (they kept accidentally hitting the ships ) It seems to be okay if the protected ships are some distance away from the main fighting though.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by magatsu1


what's that then ?

CP gave one example. If you fix it so that any damage to the ship is assumed to be because of the player it will probably work most of the time. But once in a while a few ships will accidently hit that ship or a piece of debris will damage it.

The problem is that the player then is assumed to have done something he didn't actually do. If it only happens once the player will probably assume it's a bug or something he did wrong but if it happens a second time you get a very angry player.