[MatthTheGeek]

It takes 5 years of actual production to deliver a game as big as SC.

Please allow me to quote you on that.

What excuse are you going to find when they go beyond your 5y mark by several years? It's pretty obvious from the current state of the game and the current development rate that they're not close to release anything that could be remotely described as complete next year, or the year after - assuming they ever do release something they would consider a complete product, which would be counterproductive to the jpeg-selling business.

EDIT: don't ask me why I went back 5 pages all of a sudden, I have no idea why I ended up at page 61 instead of last page. Doesn't make the point less relevant though

[Phantom Hoover]

I do like the Star Citizen apologist model of game design where apparently every system in the game is incomplete and broken halfway through development and it all gets magically fixed right before release.

[Spoon]

MatthTheGeek, why did you go back 5 pages all of the sudden?

[General Battuta]

I do like the Star Citizen apologist model of game design where apparently every system in the game is incomplete and broken halfway through development and it all gets magically fixed right before release.

To be fair this is quite common industry practice (but the fixing only happens when producers say "stop adding **** bugfix only"

[Luis Dias]

I do like the Star Citizen apologist model of game design where apparently every system in the game is incomplete and broken halfway through development and it all gets magically fixed right before release.

What about the very game of having constantly to defend your Star Citizen from the zombie crowds of laughter and unfair criticism from the whole of the internet? Deploy tactics of deflection! Press Alt-K to get the "Have you ever developed a game before?" ultimate attack, Alt-J to engage the "You're just an Escapist troll" subspace run maneuver, and many other incredible weapon variety! The grinding is truly unparalleled and it will give you a sense of despair and frustration like never a game has before! But, if you have sufficient faith, you will win at the end! The end prize is still a bit unclear but... hey! It's all about the journey right?

[666maslo666]

Please allow me to quote you on that.

What excuse are you going to find when they go beyond your 5y mark by several years?

I wont come up with any excuse then.

Honestly, I think the most realistic good scenario here is that SC comes out in late 2017, fails to deliver on lots of its promises, but is still a very good space sim with the most important game mechanics present and CIG will go on to iterate on it for many years to come, slowly delivering the rest of their features.

The bad scenario is that SC comes out at the end of 2017, is a below average game, CIG goes bankrupt and multiple backers commit suicide.

Both of these are possible, IMHO. But we as outsiders do not have enough information to judge what will happen. At this time, most of SC criticism is Derek Smart tier gossip and trolling.

[GhylTarvoke]

I hope SC is never released. (Yeah, I'm not a nice guy.) Blind faith and irresponsible game development, especially CIG's disgusting money-milking, should be discouraged.

[Dragon]

I don't think that one's a particularly likely scenario. It might be a mess on release, but since part of it has already came out, I think the rest of it will eventually follow. Whether it'll be playable in anything but singleplayer (and even that with a computer from the future) is another matter...

Of course, not that I care about that. I'm perfectly fine with a Wing Commander-style "interactive movie" campaign, as long as it's good. As far as I'm concerned, he could dump the whole MMO aspect, but with that kind of money, he doesn't exactly have any incentive not to waste some of it on that.

[Spoon]

Paywall down at last, I have some catching up to do. Meanwhile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVn0c79H5oE#t=144s

[Phantom Hoover]

Paywall down at last, I have some catching up to do.

Jesus christ, I'd assumed it would just be another thousand pages of cat ****posts. Instead, I find out that Chris Roberts married the model from his tickle fetish videos.

[Buckshee Rounds]

<horrors>

I have no mouth.

Stumbled across this the other day, made for some interesting reading - https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

[Spoon]

Jesus christ, I'd assumed it would just be another thousand pages of cat ****posts. Instead, I find out that Chris Roberts married the model from his tickle fetish videos.

I absolutely ****ing lost my **** when I saw these:
http://i.imgur.com/EzsgxBc.gif
http://i.imgur.com/oXyWSfr.gif

[The E]

So apparently they started decluttering their ship huds ... by moving readouts into cockpit surfaces and screens. Which, you know, sounds good at first, until you realize that their cockpits weren't designed with that in mind.






Also note how low-contrast all those holographic elements are.

[Spoon]

I have no mouth.

Stumbled across this the other day, made for some interesting reading - https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

"Other instances have been a little bizarre. At one meeting I was asked to carry Chris Roberts on my back. I happily obliged but generally resent being treated similar to a pack mule."
 

[Dragon]

Weird. I didn't find that review, though. Most stuff I saw on that site mentions the project's nearly endless scope (for better or for worse), high (sometimes unrealistic) expectations and inexperienced management. Pretty much what I expected.

So apparently they started decluttering their ship huds ... by moving readouts into cockpit surfaces and screens. Which, you know, sounds good at first, until you realize that their cockpits weren't designed with that in mind.

That doesn't look terrible, but it'd be better if the cockpit were designed for that from the start. Diaspora and X-2 did that sort of thing much better.

[Buckshee Rounds]

Their Gamescom livestream starts today at 19:00 GMT - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/gamescom

Honestly not sure what they're going to be talking about - the latest Alpha is still a buggy, unplayable mess and doesn't seem to have changed all that much from december last year.

[Kszyhu]

Planetary landings prerecorded footage, I guess.

[666maslo666]

http://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-30s-planetary-landing-blows-no-mans-sky-away/

https://www.twitch.tv/starcitizen/v/84518331

SC Alpha 3.0 gameplay featuring Stanton system, procedural planets and basic professions shown at Gamescom.

Star Citizen detractors proved wrong yet again! How can they ever recover??

[Phantom Hoover]

you remind me of one of the crazier admins of conservapedia

[Dragon]

"Blows No Man's Sky away"... from what I've seen and heard of NMS, that's not that high of a bar to clear. We'll see how it looks once it's actually out, of course. It's easy to cherry-pick the best looking parts and run the game on an absolute monster of a machine that can simply power through any performance issues. Actual user experience may vary...