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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #20 on: June 28, 2013, 05:49:36 pm
If you're looking to make the forums more mobile-friendly then my absolute first suggestion would be to get rid of those damned thread back/forward buttons that pop up on the sides of the screen: they are very easy to hit by accident on a touchscreen, especially since they're given to popping up out of nowhere, and worse still they don't even serve a particularly helpful purpose.

As for post headers, I think the best way of minimising them would be to get rid of the totally-superfluous individual titles, or make them default to a blank field, and leave the post date etc. as they were.
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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #21 on: June 28, 2013, 05:54:58 pm
Quote from: Spoon on June 27, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
Also, embedded videos when?

Huh, what? Did you say something? :D ;7


EDIT: in case you're wondering how to embed YT videos:

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For example, the above video is:

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EDIT 2: Also...

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[vimeo]vimeo-video-id-here[/vimeo]
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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #22 on: June 28, 2013, 05:56:13 pm
Quote from: Phantom Hoover on June 28, 2013, 05:49:36 pm
If you're looking to make the forums more mobile-friendly then my absolute first suggestion would be to get rid of those damned thread back/forward buttons that pop up on the sides of the screen: they are very easy to hit by accident on a touchscreen, especially since they're given to popping up out of nowhere, and worse still they don't even serve a particularly helpful purpose.

Seconding this. I've tried to browse HLP on my Kindle Fire a few times and it's painful mainly because of this.
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Reply #23 on: June 28, 2013, 06:00:53 pm
Quote from: Phantom Hoover on June 28, 2013, 05:49:36 pm
If you're looking to make the forums more mobile-friendly then my absolute first suggestion would be to get rid of those damned thread back/forward buttons that pop up on the sides of the screen: they are very easy to hit by accident on a touchscreen, especially since they're given to popping up out of nowhere, and worse still they don't even serve a particularly helpful purpose.

As for post headers, I think the best way of minimising them would be to get rid of the totally-superfluous individual titles, or make them default to a blank field, and leave the post date etc. as they were.

Both good points. Prev/Next links have been restored to regular text links at the top and bottom of threads (EDIT and yes, they need fine-tuning, style-wise. Later.). I'll begin work on individual post titles, which are indeed largely superfluous.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #24 on: June 28, 2013, 06:14:06 pm
Can you just remove the post title (re:thread title) and leave just the reply number/time/date?
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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #25 on: June 28, 2013, 06:15:33 pm
you are making some serious headway on this sandwich and in general I like what you are trying.

If you are doing requests is there any chance of p3d embedding?
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Reply #26 on: June 28, 2013, 06:21:29 pm
Oh my

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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #27 on: June 28, 2013, 06:22:17 pm
Quote from: mjn.mixael on June 28, 2013, 06:14:06 pm
Can you just remove the post title (re:thread title) and leave just the reply number/time/date?

Done. That misleading message icon is removed too. Never did figure out what it was for.

Quote from: headdie on June 28, 2013, 06:15:33 pm
you are making some serious headway on this sandwich and in general I like what you are trying.

If you are doing requests is there any chance of p3d embedding?

P3d? Can you point me to example code for embedding it?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #28 on: June 28, 2013, 06:22:48 pm
Quote from: mjn.mixael on June 28, 2013, 06:21:29 pm
Oh my

Force-refresh. :)

EDIT: Oh, Android. Clear cache. :p

EDIT 2: Hmm, somewhere I appear to have broken the inline post editing. Reverting things one by one. Bear with me.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #29 on: June 28, 2013, 06:29:16 pm
So I really really like the sigs now.  I hated that stupid mouseover box, and these are unobtrusive enough that I can still read them and laugh at the funny ones without them drowning out the page.
 

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Reply #30 on: June 28, 2013, 06:32:41 pm
Ok, individual post titles are apparently required for the javascript that does the inline post editing to work and not go crazy. So, they've got to stay. However, I've made them inline elements, so they don't take up as much vertical space as before.

Also, in the spirit of Twitter, the link to each individual post is now the timestamp, not the title. :D

Regarding the sigs... I'm gonna try something. Gimme a few... ;)

EDIT: Well that didn't work. Ah well.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #31 on: June 28, 2013, 06:37:11 pm
I don't think p3d embedding is a good idea, p3d is a demanding and specialised thing that probably should stay behind an external link, the same as YouTube and such. Not to mention the dubious security of WebGL itself.
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Reply #32 on: June 28, 2013, 06:38:39 pm
Quote from: Phantom Hoover on June 28, 2013, 06:37:11 pm
I don't think p3d embedding is a good idea, p3d is a demanding and specialised thing that probably should stay behind an external link, the same as YouTube and such. Not to mention the dubious security of WebGL itself.

Perhaps; however, there are ways, young padawan... at least, there might be ways. All I require is example code... ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Rethinking Posts
Reply #33 on: June 28, 2013, 06:41:54 pm
I think this is where you would need to go to find it, though dont know if this board uses any of the listed code bases.

p3d share code was here

their native support code gives a couple of extra functions and makes the linking shorter so the above would become p3d share code was here

if you could do it would be useful for those of us who do 3D work in the community

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Reply #34 on: June 28, 2013, 06:46:04 pm
When you need to do something right, do it yourself.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=80917.msg1696629#msg1696629

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Reply #35 on: June 28, 2013, 06:48:21 pm
Can you add a silver star function for the community just so I can give it to you for that?
 

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Reply #36 on: June 28, 2013, 06:51:48 pm
No. :D
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Reply #37 on: June 28, 2013, 06:56:27 pm
Yay for embedded videos! \o/
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Reply #38 on: June 28, 2013, 06:58:23 pm
WHAT THE ****  :confused:

There's this giant "PREVIOUS THREAD" sign on the left now, and it's annoyingly distracting. Mind fixing that, please?  :nervous:
 

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Reply #39 on: June 28, 2013, 07:00:52 pm
I think the fixing thread buttons...went a little wrong, here.
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