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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: 'Captain' Nick Brown on August 29, 2001, 05:20:00 pm
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I have modified a Vasudan ship and made the GVXF Hadar. It generates no power, which means your subsystems won't repair (unless a support ship fixes them) so your subsystems really do effect the way you play. Plus it doesn't recharge your shields, so I bumped the shields up to around 2000. Also, it doesn't recharge your weapon energy, so I created the Voodoo Cannon, which has it's own power source and doesn't drain your ships reactor, but is still powerful.
That might sounds pretty ordinary, but once in-game, it works really well. Sometimes you'll have to put in sexps (eg. if your comm gets down to 20%, you can't properly make communications, which FS2 doesn't automatically do 'I think').
I like the way the shields don't recharge. It gives you more of a challenge. Oh yeah, it will take a beating for a while with 2000pt shields, but they don't recharge and if your shields are down and you have a missile locked on your sorry *** , you're in trouble. I've given the example to a few people, and they like this method better than the original.
The fic:
Basically the GTVA engineers have decided that ship systems need to be regulated in a different way. Removing the energy required for recharging everything and reallocating it to other areas like your engines, etc. The ship would have a smaller reactor, so you can expect to have a larger missile compliment.
To add some variety to the game, I was thinking of giving this technique to all Vasudan fighters/bombers...
Let the critics begin.
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I like it a lot, if it wasn't the fs1/2 history, I think giving this to a full faction would have emphasized even more on the difference between them.
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The idea originated when I wanted to get your subsystems to play a bigger role in the game. I posted a topic, a while ago, asking if there was a way to disable the automatic recharging of your subsytems. I think it was Shrike that replied and said that there was no way, except if you give your ship a power output of 0, but then your weapon energy wouldn't recharge either. That got me thinking, then I came up with what I stated previously.
Personally, I like this. But it's all down to personal preference.
Thanks for your kind comments Venom.
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mmh, thinking about it, that probably makes the weapon very efficient no? I wondered... -that's a general question- is it possible to make a primary to swarm (so it fires a series of quick bursts, and between each salvoe, you would have to wait for the gun to recharge -aka medium/long fire rate- )?
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Originally posted by venom2506:
mmh, thinking about it, that probably makes the weapon very efficient no? I wondered... -that's a general question- is it possible to make a primary to swarm (so it fires a series of quick bursts, and between each salvoe, you would have to wait for the gun to recharge -aka medium/long fire rate- )?
I can't remember the rate of fire I chose for the Voodoo cannon, but you can chose how long between firing each pulse. I made it pretty realistic though.
For your second question, it depends. You can have the power ouput significantly highy with a fast recharge rate like I had with my Type-IX Pulse Phasers. They fired 4 pulses every 2 seconds or so using my modified Artemis called the Oberon-class shuttlecraft. It fired 4 pulses every 2 seconds because the pulses drained the ship's weapon energy (I didn't fire until it fully recharged again, which took about 2 seconds). But like I said it depends. It depends upon the different ship's power output. You know what I mean?
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Venom, does the 2506 after your name have a certain meaning for you?
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'Captain' Nick Brown
[This message has been edited by 'Captain' Nick Brown (edited 08-29-2001).]
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I see potential here. Now we can build a vulcan cannon as a primary weapon. Armor that chips off and is never replaced. Pre-Great War fighters that can be easily flown. I love the idea.
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I know there is a method, but all I see is madness.
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Originally posted by 'Captain' Nick Brown:
Venom, does the 2506 after your name have a certain meaning for you?
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yup, sort of, why?
(btw why the italic and bolds in your reply?)
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Originally posted by venom2506:
yup, sort of, why?
(btw why the italic and bolds in your reply?)
Aha... themystery of the mysterious numbers after the name (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
Aha... themystery of the mysterious numbers after the name (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
exactly, heh, aldo... 14? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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That was his soccer... err... football number, right Aldo?
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Nice work Cpt'n Brown, but at least give credit where credit is due! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Tell you what really ramps up the pucker factor, limit thier ammunition as well. It really emphasises team tactics (esp. bomber tactics) because you need the weapons your wingmen are carrying about as much as the ones strapped under your own wings.
I'm moving my location from !Yahoo groups right now (they pissed me off for the last time), but once I get it posted you can see an expample of what I'm talking about at
http://www.homestead.com/jskgames/home.html ("http://www.homestead.com/jskgames/home.html")
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Originally posted by venom2506:
yup, sort of, why?
(btw why the italic and bolds in your reply?)
1. Just curious. Looks mysterious.
2. I like a little difference in my posts, rather than a bland non-formatted text. I tend to highlight people's names by typing them in bold and quick comments in italics.
Originally posted by jonskowitz:
Nice work Cpt'n Brown, but at least give credit where credit is due! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
1. Thanks mate. But, what do you mean? "give credit where credit is due"
2. I only bumped the missile/bomb compliment up a little bit (no more than 20 units).
We only use the support ship for rearming, don't we? But it's classed as a repair/rearm ship though. By the time the support ship docks with us, our subsystems would have already repaired themselves. That's another reason why I've made this mod, to give the support ship's other function more of a chance.
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'Captain' Nick Brown
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What I mean Captain, is that it was my suggestion.
BTW- where can I find examples of your work?
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h:
That was his soccer... err... football number, right Aldo?
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
(well it sorta looks like a nod (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif))
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An EXCELLANT Mod. (sorry if your mod is very good too) :(
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Wow. That's a blast from the past. Way to revive the truly ancient. ;)
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But I still like the idea :p ( so much that I did try stuff alike :p )
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You should try doing this in Iwar2, Venom. ;) The game becomes one hell of a lot harder if you slow down (or stop) the autorepair, and increase the system damage handler to Iwar1 levels. Even better, start out with a Alpha Heat Sink (i think you normally start with a Gamma). Piracy become one hell of a lot more dangerous. :D
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Wow... this thread is from even before I went on haetus. :eek:
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Wow... technically, this is older than I am. :eek:
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Wow... technically, this isolder than I am. :eek:
I suspect you meant something else :p
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Maturity age I guess. :D