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That's odd... I always thought the Hades was this huge flat rectangular box with 2 large boot shaped thrusters.

 
thats technically what it is. except with four :P
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Fun while it lasted.

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You mean Voice acting is being finished?
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Soon, things will all become clear. :drevil:

Goobness gracious me.

 
IMHO, actual gameplay takes precedence over cutscenes in regards to canonity. IIRC the cutscenes were made by interplay, not volition. Or at least that one was.

The Shivans reached Deneb through an uncharted jumpnode.

The GTI captured and studied the Shivans. They likely summoned them to Deneb through the "uncharted" node.

Bosch built Boadicea and ETAK in Deneb studying GTI leftovers.

The Hades shows up in the FS2 intro.

Therefore, the Jotunheim (sp?) and most of the GTI infrastructure were based in Deneb. There's no canonicity gap. The Hades was destroyed in Deneb.

And where did you hear that some of the cutscenes where made by Interplay? That's the publisher. They had little else to do with FreeSpace.

 

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The Hades shows up in the FS2 intro.
Yeah, you can see the Hades crashlanded on a planet, while it was actually destroyed next to where the Jotunheim was. I'd bet that whoever were doing the cutscenes, they weren't told to 'keep up with the canon' but to 'do a goddarn cutscene that'll sell the game'.
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The Shivans reached Deneb through an uncharted jumpnode.
According to the cbanis and Playing Judas, it looks rather like they used an uncharted node to go from Ribos to Vega (from which most allied vessels had retreated at that point) and then used the stable node to go from Vega to Deneb.

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The GTI captured and studied the Shivans. They likely summoned them to Deneb through the "uncharted" node.
:wtf: Why would they need to "summon" Shivans when they had their hands full with the ones already in T-V space?

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Therefore, the Jotunheim (sp?) and most of the GTI infrastructure were based in Deneb.
Jotunheim is canonically located in Beta Aquilae.

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And where did you hear that some of the cutscenes where made by Interplay? That's the publisher. They had little else to do with FreeSpace.
IIRC some of the cutscenes were contracted out to third-party cutscene makers.  If this is true, the agreement was probably arranged by Interplay.

 

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If I was incharge of the final missions of Silent Threat Reborn, I would have done the following:

a) Used the Table Hacked Hades Mk2 model (more turrets and 5 Engine Subsystems)
B) THe Hades would jump out either after one of the Engines was destroyed or after about 5-10 minutes
c) Following this, Would be a series of missions  where you chase down and destroy the hades these end with the Hades crashing on the planet
Id base these missions on the chase after the shadow-hybrid in the unfilmed Crusade Episode "To the ends of the Earth" and the original planned missions against the Taranis in FS1 (According to the FSRef Bible, you were surposed to fly Several missions against the Taranis before you capture it)

Maybe the camera fades to a b-aquilae planet and back again,,,or maybe it really was chased to Deneb.
Joutunheim was definatley im BA...
I think in real life it was an oversight on the cutscene developers part...This sort of thing has happenes many times before
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The FS2 Intro and the FS2 Box was ****ed up. Lucifers in FS2? An extra Demon when it's said there are no others? Ursae before they are developed?

 

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Maybe those were prototype Ursa...I mean you see the Erinyes in action long before it is officially unveiled.

How do you know that the Demon wanst the Eva? I mean the Orion is the Semi-Canonical GTD Legion...

Lucifers? are you refering to the box or cutscenes?
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Maybe those were prototype Ursa...I mean you see the Erinyes in action long before it is officially unveiled.

How do you know that the Demon wanst the Eva? I mean the Orion is the Semi-Canonical GTD Legion...

Lucifers? are you refering to the box or cutscenes?

Those Erinyes were used by SOC, and it makes sense that they could be using it before the rest of the fleet even knew about it ... "...as far as anyone else knows, they don't even exist..." –Snipes.  And though I haven't verified this, I heard that the Eva was destroyed before the Battle of Deneb.  Bottom line is that that cutscene was messed up.

 

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Maybe those were prototype Ursa...I mean you see the Erinyes in action long before it is officially unveiled.

How do you know that the Demon wanst the Eva? I mean the Orion is the Semi-Canonical GTD Legion...

Lucifers? are you refering to the box or cutscenes?

Those Erinyes were used by SOC, and it makes sense that they could be using it before the rest of the fleet even knew about it ... "...as far as anyone else knows, they don't even exist..." –Snipes.  And though I haven't verified this, I heard that the Eva was destroyed before the Battle of Deneb.  Bottom line is that that cutscene was messed up.

That cutscene was done by a third party company, who probably had no knowledge whatsoever of FreeSpace.
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Those Erinyes were used by SOC, and it makes sense that they could be using it before the rest of the fleet even knew about it ... "...as far as anyone else knows, they don't even exist..." –Snipes.  And though I haven't verified this, I heard that the Eva was destroyed before the Battle of Deneb.  Bottom line is that that cutscene was messed up.

You must be talking about the Wiki Trivia page.

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Trivia#Cutscene_quirks

I was the one who put in the Eva-being-destroyed bit. I don't have any evidence of that, actually, so it might be wrong. The best way to check would be to compare the date that the cutscene gives for the "Battle of Deneb" to the command briefing dates. The Eva was destroyed somewhere in between 2/31/2335 and 3/1/2335.

Hell. Now I realize what a mess the intro movie is.

 

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Those Erinyes were used by SOC, and it makes sense that they could be using it before the rest of the fleet even knew about it ... "...as far as anyone else knows, they don't even exist..." –Snipes.  And though I haven't verified this, I heard that the Eva was destroyed before the Battle of Deneb.  Bottom line is that that cutscene was messed up.

You must be talking about the Wiki Trivia page.

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Trivia#Cutscene_quirks

I was the one who put in the Eva-being-destroyed bit. I don't have any evidence of that, actually, so it might be wrong. The best way to check would be to compare the date that the cutscene gives for the "Battle of Deneb" to the command briefing dates. The Eva was destroyed somewhere in between 2/31/2335 and 3/1/2335.

Hell. Now I realize what a mess the intro movie is.

Yeah, I was referring to the wiki, so I guess that that could be the Eva.  It still doesn't change the fact that that cutscene is messed up.

 

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I'm kind of surprised no one added the "Lucifer mysteriously used side-mounted beams to destroy the Legion when no such beams existed in the game" factoid to that list. :p