[Ransom]

QFT. The Typhon is, and will always be, an ugly ship IMHO. It doesn't look Vasudan to me.

'Vasudan' meaning what, here? Phalluses with tan-coloured plating?

To be honest I think it looks far more Vasudan than most of their other capitals. It's not pretty (well, wasn't pretty - those are some great normal maps), but it's identifiably alien in ways the Hatshepsut and Sobek are not.

[Woolie Wool]

You haven't played FS1, have you?

No. I admit.
Judging from the Wiki, it's a Vasudan transport. The colour makes it look like a Bast? (Never heard of that ship before. Hey, it's unarmed! So there ARE unarmed ships in FS!)

I don't recall the Typhon ever looking THAT bad in terms of shape. However, the plating now looks awesome.

QFT. The Typhon is, and will always be, an ugly ship IMHO. It doesn't look Vasudan to me.

The Typhon looks Vasudan to me the Hatshepsut does not.

Vasudan, for me, will always be brown and blue, none of this tan and gold stuff.

But times obviously change, just look at the Orion and the Hecate.

Only the Shivans remain pretty much the same between the two games, and they have a purple freighter

The Shivans went from freakish mechanical horrors like the Scorpion to...flying space bugs.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

You haven't played FS1, have you?

No. I admit.
Judging from the Wiki, it's a Vasudan transport. The colour makes it look like a Bast? (Never heard of that ship before. Hey, it's unarmed! So there ARE unarmed ships in FS!)

I don't recall the Typhon ever looking THAT bad in terms of shape. However, the plating now looks awesome.

QFT. The Typhon is, and will always be, an ugly ship IMHO. It doesn't look Vasudan to me.

The Typhon looks Vasudan to me the Hatshepsut does not.

Vasudan, for me, will always be brown and blue, none of this tan and gold stuff.

But times obviously change, just look at the Orion and the Hecate.

Only the Shivans remain pretty much the same between the two games, and they have a purple freighter

Guess you're right. To me, Vasudan means Hattie-style. Probably because it's the first Vasudan ship I ever saw (except for the Satis).

[Ransom]

The Shivans went from freakish mechanical horrors like the Scorpion to...flying space bugs.

To be fair, the Scorpion is the only one that actually looked like a freakish mechanical horror. All the others are more or less symmetrical.

But I don't mind the space bugs, myself. I think both design styles have their merits. Had FS1 pushed more in the direction of the mismatched style of the Scorpion, maybe I'd think different, but it didn't.

[Snail]

To be fair, the Scorpion is the only one that actually looked like a freakish mechanical horror. All the others are more or less symmetrical.

Well there was the Shaitan, too. But that looked more like a computer chip.

But I don't mind the space bugs, myself. I think both design styles have their merits. Had FS1 pushed more in the direction of the mismatched style of the Scorpion, maybe I'd think different, but it didn't.

IMO, the Space bugs just weren't scary. I mean, stuff warping in a blowing up your ships (and doing it twice) wasn't really that scary. But in FS1, having these random things flying around half-invisible and unkillable blowing up Terrans and Vasudans alike, that was terrifying.

[Woolie Wool]

The Shivans went from freakish mechanical horrors like the Scorpion to...flying space bugs.

To be fair, the Scorpion is the only one that actually looked like a freakish mechanical horror. All the others are more or less symmetrical.

But I don't mind the space bugs, myself. I think both design styles have their merits. Had FS1 pushed more in the direction of the mismatched style of the Scorpion, maybe I'd think different, but it didn't.

I think the Basilisk, Manticore, and Dragon are far more threatening in appearance than the Aeshma, Astaroth, and Mara.

[Droid803]

The Aeshma looks retarded.
The Mara and the Astaroth look alright...albiet bug-like.

Oh wow off topic

[Ransom]

I actually really like the Mara. But yes, the Aeshma's a mess.

I've never found the Shivan fighters particularly 'threatening' to begin with, though. I think the problem with FS2's Shivans has far more to do with their behaviour than their appearance.

[Snail]

The Aeshma looks retarded.
The Mara and the Astaroth look alright...albiet bug-like.

Another reason why I hate the FS2 Shivans is because of their textures. In FS1, practically all ships had high-resolution textures. In FS2, the some of the textures were like, half the size of their FS1 counterparts.

[Droid803]

Aeshmas look retarded, and behave in a similar fashion 
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Another reason why I hate the FS2 Shivans is because of their textures. In FS1, practically all ships had high-resolution textures. In FS2, the some of the textures were like, half the size of their FS1 counterparts.

O_o Really?

[colecampbell666]

Aeshmas look retarded, and behave in a similar fashion 

QFT. However, they are good at destroying GTD Duke. Which mainly involves flying in a straight line and firing fire-and-forget missiles.

[Cobra]

There was no GTD Duke.

You're talking about the GTC Duke, and it was Basilisks, not Aeshmas.

[colecampbell666]

No, the mission where all the ships escape (or not, I haven't completed it) through the Knossos.

[Cobra]

No, the mission where all the ships escape (or not, I haven't completed it) through the Knossos.

It was still GTC Duke. And if you couldn't keep Aeshmas from firing at the Duke... you really gotta work on your skills.

[colecampbell666]

I was by the Rakshasa's, and I hit my burners and max out engines towards the Aeshmas. I can get there and destroy two or three before they fire. Besides, that isn't where I am stuck. I'm not really stuck. I hit the wrong beams on the Abel, and bye-bye Temeraire. I just took a break after that.

[Galemp]

I've put a lot of work into a new Status thread. Go and check it out.

Meanwhile let's see if I can break down this thread into multiple discussions...