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Offline Tolwyn

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No, 3.6.9 FRED was not available by the time this release was compiled. You will need to download it separately.
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I can't install WCS Prologue because it checks my C: Partition where I have only 400mb left. I tried to install to D: (5GB free space) but it says C: doesn't have enough free space...

can anybody help me?

Control Panel->System->Advanced->Environment Variables. Now move TEMP and TMP to somewhere not on C: where you do have lots of space.

You really should do some house cleaning though.
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Thanks Karajorma...
I think right now I've got about a gig free, the swap file is located on another partition, so theres no problem there.  I really do need to reformat, but it's a pain in the butt.
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but, in this sort of situation against a frigate and over powered beams with a fast re-fire rate, its not possible.

I just ran in on afterburner under fire, released the torp at a bit under 1500, turned, and started hunting fighters. Apparently I killed it, since it exploded behind me and there was a nice job comment.

Observations: Spelling error or two (maybe more, since the word you pronounced for the system was "Oberon" but the spelling was different). Ninja and Assassin's voice actors get good marks. Sandman was vaguely but not hopelessly annoying. Major Baws needs to practice showing a wee bit more emotion. (But only a wee bit.) Much too short. :p

I kept trying to use enter to launch missiles. But I haven't played Wing Commander in years. <,< >,>

Methinks this is a good sign.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2007, 05:51:55 am by ngtm1r »
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... Okay. Word for the wise, that little Caernarven in mission 3 is NOT as easy to destroy as Baws makes it sound. He's all "Just go over there and pop it with a torpedo, we'll cover you"  :D.  I actually managed to snap off my torp before the fighters mauled me but it must have been destroyed. Oh well, gotta try again and listen to some of the advice from earlier in this thread.

 
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... Okay. Word for the wise, that little Caernarven in mission 3 is NOT as easy to destroy as Baws makes it sound. He's all "Just go over there and pop it with a torpedo, we'll cover you"  :D.  I actually managed to snap off my torp before the fighters mauled me but it must have been destroyed. Oh well, gotta try again and listen to some of the advice from earlier in this thread.

SPOILER

You should take out enemy fighters first
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Well, first of all, a huge 'thank you' from an old gamer and avid Wing Commander fan. I just installed WCS, and the intro blew me away completely! Awesome. Speaking of blowing away, I'm stuck in the 2nd mission (don't laugh!). I get killed EVERY time by a missile blast right after the pirate scumbags attack. There isn't much I can do, I either attack and get killed in 5 seconds OR I die because of disobeying the Major.
I'm certainly no NOOB, having finished WC1-Prophecy, X-Wing, TieFighter....you name'em. So any hints for me?

Anyway, great game, splendid job!
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SPOILER

From what I remember: there is at least 1 (more likely 2) enemy Razor(s) gunning for you. You should take care of them first. Use your missiles, it is very easy to take down an enemy fighter while performing a frontal attack run. But be careful, they can fire a missile at point blank range as well :)
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Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

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Thanks, Tolwyn, that worked. Maybe my skills are just a little rusty.

Two other things:
1) Do you guys need any help on the project? I'm no computer geek, but a lousy engineer, so I do have some experience with computers ;)
2) Maybe you should open an thread for mission-related questions like mine, to stop this thread from getting too cluttered ;=)

Take care, Grüsse nach München!
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GREAT, GREAT JOB  :yes: :yes: :yes:

Now only one question and one suggestion:

+ What does -wcsaga flag enable in FS2 engine?

+ Would it be possible to make Alt-N turn off Nav point targeting? Once you've reached a position I found them quite annoying. So Alt-N would cycle through navs and after the last one would untarget them.
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1) Do you guys need any help on the project? I'm no computer geek, but a lousy engineer, so I do have some experience with computers ;)

Yeah.

more people working on the project = earlier release. It's as simple as that :)

+ What does -wcsaga flag enable in FS2 engine?

I have no idea :) A large number of smaller things (like removed "-class" tag in the briefing->ship viewer).

+ Would it be possible to make Alt-N turn off Nav point targeting? Once you've reached a position I found them quite annoying. So Alt-N would cycle through navs and after the last one would untarget them.

I am the wrong person to ask, but probably no.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2007, 08:41:29 am by Tolwyn »
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Yeah.

more people working on the project = earlier release. It's as simple as that :)



allright, sign me up! Seriously, what kind of jobs are available?

 

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Whenever the damage sparks would fly on the Wellington, the carrier lights would flicker. Nice touch!

Glowpoint flicking on damaged ships is a SCP Feature :)

Bug here: (highlight blank space; spoilers)

on the mission in which you escort the wellington to the jump node, we arrive at the final waypoint, except there are no kilrathi. There are supposed to be two cruisers there, but there isn't. So I sit there for about an hour in 64x time compression on, and randomly at about 320 elapsed mission minutes, the two cruisers jump in. what is wrong here?

As Tolwyn said, is this reproducable ? The arrival of the enemies is (as most times) triggered on the players distance to the navpoint you are approaching. In all the countless tries I did I never run into this problem (though I have read some very strange problems within the last 48 hours  :wtf: )

Well, first of all, a huge 'thank you' from an old gamer and avid Wing Commander fan. I just installed WCS, and the intro blew me away completely! Awesome. Speaking of blowing away, I'm stuck in the 2nd mission (don't laugh!). I get killed EVERY time by a missile blast right after the pirate scumbags attack. There isn't much I can do, I either attack and get killed in 5 seconds OR I die because of disobeying the Major.
I'm certainly no NOOB, having finished WC1-Prophecy, X-Wing, TieFighter....you name'em. So any hints for me?

Anyway, great game, splendid job!
Buzz

Besides Tolwyn's hint, evading missiles is certainly one of the challanges in the game, but with a little experience it's really easy. Listen carefully what Ninja explains to you before the fight with the pirates start (we built that in special for this case :)  ) Be very careful when approaching enemies from the front. They will fire a missile at you when you are very close, and your chance of evading is down to 0% then.

Otherwise, listen to the missile alarm sound. When the missiles get's close (faster beep-sound) drop a countermeasure and immediately change flightvector and hit the afterburner. Don't throw out the countermeasure to soon. It's mostly useless then, and you don't have so many of them.

+ What does -wcsaga flag enable in FS2 engine?

- Removing -class name in the briefing icons (click on it)
- Removes enemy wingnames ingame
- more to come (I hope :D )
« Last Edit: January 02, 2007, 09:22:17 am by Starman01 »
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allright, next question:
in the mission where 6 Arrows are escorting the cap ship to Nav 3 and encounter a cruiser, I killed the cruiser, the Wellington said "thanks for savinf our bacon", but the mission ended as a failure.... The hull stats of the Wellington was about 50% at that time...

 

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Huh ? That's simply crazy  :confused:

Which debriefing was played when that happened ? Theoretically, the only failure that can happen before reaching the final nav, is that the wellington get's destroyed, nothing else
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Huh ? That's simply crazy  :confused:

Which debriefing was played when that happened ? Theoretically, the only failure that can happen before reaching the final nav, is that the wellington get's destroyed, nothing else

Well, I replayed it and got the right ending this time. Did the first cruiser maybe fire torpedos I missed?
Anyway, I'm through, the 2nd mission was the hardest by far ;) Great work, folks, please keep more coming!

 

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You are not done yet :) Check out the simulator mission.
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You are not done yet :) Check out the simulator mission.

Huh? where can find the simulator?

 

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You are not done yet :) Check out the simulator mission.

Huh? where can find the simulator?

read the very first post
Wing Commander Saga: A Legend Is Reborn | WingCenter
 
Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

No errors, no random CTDs, just pure fun and proof of why getting hit with missiles is a bad thing.
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