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Archived Boards => The Archive => Blackwater Operations => Topic started by: Ace on July 28, 2005, 05:37:00 am
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(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen12.jpg)
Something so supar-secret that not even the beta testers have seen it yet.
Speculate.
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Actually you told us what it was.
You forgot. :lol:
If I speculate, I win. :thepimp:
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Different screenshot ;)
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X 1 or 2
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Something entirely new.
[Dave Bowman]Something wonderful.[/Dave Bowman]
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Yeah :p
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[q]The Disciples of the Profane[/q]
****?
****?
*****?
****?
****?
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It seems like a second big beamed ship to me.
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How many Golgothas do you have? They're coming out of the woodwork, for ****'s sake...
Shivan sympathizers? An amusing squadron name? Bob?
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I know what it is.
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I hate to be the odd one out, but those beam effects... well... suck.
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It's a Knossos!!1!1!111!!!!!!1!1!!!! :eek:
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Originally posted by Raa
I hate to be the odd one out, but those beam effects... well... suck.
They look much better animated.
Originally posted by Knight Templar
I know what it is.
No you don't :p
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Originally posted by Ace
They look much better animated.
Then take a movie of it. :p (Use VirtualDub to censor the secret bits.)
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Watch the BWO trailer again :p
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Nah. That's the standard Knossos. Just poorly lit.
Originally posted by Ace
They look much better animated.
I should certainly hope so. But then again... I expect so much more from everyone these days. :nervous:
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How many Golgotha's do you have?
It looks to me like a couple of Golgotha's are blasting a couple of things with those giant ray guns of theirs :p
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Originally posted by Kosh
How many Golgotha's do you have?
Enough ;)
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there useing the old beams, why?
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Post the new beams in the internal and they'll be using them.
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Originally posted by Ace
No you don't :p
Yes I do. Unless you mean what they're shooting at.
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Originally posted by High Max
Maybe that blocked directive message is supposed to say "defend the GTA Euminadies" and the other might say "The Euminadies Meson core is at 200%".
You should note that there are two Golgotha class warships in the screenshot, and that the Eumenedes is the AWACS.
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Why does it say in the directives you need to defend THE GTD Golgotha, when there are two of her sisterships hanging around?
Either Golgothas are banging each other, or they are trying to protect THE Golgotha from something truly horrific.
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or the player is assigned to the GTD Golgotha, and not one of the other ones :p
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Is it a new killer buoy the Shivans designed?
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Originally posted by Prophet
Why does it say in the directives you need to defend THE GTD Golgotha, when there are two of her sisterships hanging around?
Either Golgothas are banging each other, or they are trying to protect THE Golgotha from something truly horrific.
Typically, the very first ship of it's class produced is named after the class. So the GTD Golgotha would be the first Golgotha produced. Just as the GTD Orion would be the first Orion class made. (Or from what I've read, atleast)
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This mission probably takes place after the player gets to decided which side to choose.
I will say yes to this one.
Is it a new killer buoy the Shivans designed?
Why would two Golgotha class destroyers be deployed against a Shivan comm node when there are no Shivans in BWO?
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Because the Shivans snuck into BWO through the Ikeya node.
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The Objective Roster obviously houses an unknown objective, likely to destroy the Shivan Ship behind the player; and below that, a "Protect GTD ******", as in, protect the second Golgotha Class Destroyer. Moreover, the blanked out words in the speech at the top of the screen are, in my opinion, just blurred to make it look more mysterious. It probably just says; "...*Name of Unknown Golgotha Destroyer*: Admiral, the Supercharged (or just insert tech-talk here) Meson Reactor is at 200%...
...Regarding the Shivan-like Capital Ship in the roster on the side is definitely of Juggernaut Class, as you can see the 'J', even with the Blur. Outwardly, it could be a Sathanas, but the name looks a little short for that, so - coupled with the secrecy shrouding this Shivan Craft, another class of a Shivan Uber Ship...? Well, that would be a good answer, if there actually were Shivans in BWO (or is it an elaborate lie? :p). So, definitely another class of ship, almost definitely a 'J' or Juggernaut designation, and it kinda looks like a 'P' there too, so it could be 'PJ ******' (Yes, the Gigantic Pyjamas of Doom!). Past that, i've no idea in hell what it could be...
...Also, it wouldn't surprise me if the ship you're flying is a Terran Mara, the little avatar down the bottom looks a bit like it, and you have Duel Kaysers (although not really surprising if you're given the choice) which is standard on Maras...
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Originally posted by Raa
Typically, the very first ship of it's class produced is named after the class. So the GTD Golgotha would be the first Golgotha produced. Just as the GTD Orion would be the first Orion class made. (Or from what I've read, atleast)
Thats not what I meant you know.
You need to learn to think like Terrans :P
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's hard to think backwards, though :p
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Originally posted by Mefustae
The Objective Roster obviously houses an unknown objective, likely to destroy the Shivan Ship behind the player; and below that, a "Protect GTD ******", as in, protect the second Golgotha Class Destroyer. Moreover, the blanked out words in the speech at the top of the screen are, in my opinion, just blurred to make it look more mysterious. It probably just says; "...*Name of Unknown Golgotha Destroyer*: Admiral, the Supercharged (or just insert tech-talk here) Meson Reactor is at 200%...
...Regarding the Shivan-like Capital Ship in the roster on the side is definitely of Juggernaut Class, as you can see the 'J', even with the Blur. Outwardly, it could be a Sathanas, but the name looks a little short for that, so - coupled with the secrecy shrouding this Shivan Craft, another class of a Shivan Uber Ship...? Well, that would be a good answer, if there actually were Shivans in BWO (or is it an elaborate lie? :p). So, definitely another class of ship, almost definitely a 'J' or Juggernaut designation, and it kinda looks like a 'P' there too, so it could be 'PJ ******' (Yes, the Gigantic Pyjamas of Doom!). Past that, i've no idea in hell what it could be...
...Also, it wouldn't surprise me if the ship you're flying is a Terran Mara, the little avatar down the bottom looks a bit like it, and you have Duel Kaysers (although not really surprising if you're given the choice) which is standard on Maras...
Oooooo you really want BWO to deal with Shivans, eh? :p
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who doesn't?? :D
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Originally posted by BlackDove
Oooooo you really want BWO to deal with Shivans, eh? :p
Actually, it's a not-so-subtle hint that we want Twilight back...
Well, that among other things. But anyways, the possiblity to work them into the story does exist, so some of us have difficulty believing they won't make some appearance.
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Twilight has been worked into the campaign here and there. You'll find out what happened to Talstavi, Soyavo, "The Babel Device," etc.
However, there are no Shivans in BWO.
I will say though that Section 3 of the GTVI may have some Mara class fighters left over from the Russik Incident. (Warzone)
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*sigh* The Golgotha's not unique anymore :(
And...err...Twilight?
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Welcome to last year Jetmech:
(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen6.jpg)
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The shield arcs line up perfectly for a Mara's shield Icon.
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Originally posted by Ace
Welcome to last year Jetmech:
(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen6.jpg)
What does a big red X have to do with last year?
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Umm...it's not a red x?
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Image works fine for me.
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Well, if it ain't Shivan, how about Solarian? Or Terran? Or something! It must have something to do with that Buoy
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
What does a big red X have to do with last year?
[size=128]X[/size]
Everything.
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Originally posted by Fragrag
Well, if it ain't Shivan, how about Solarian? Or Terran? Or something! It must have something to do with that Buoy
It's a .... it's... a...
[size=999]IT'S A GHOST![/size]
:nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
Umm...it's not a red x?
Well, it was when I first looked at it.
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Originally posted by Raa
I hate to be the odd one out, but those beam effects... well... suck.
They look cooler while moving and frankly all of our mods are still at a standard set by FS2 years ago. When it comes to catching up graphically with SCP, we haven't really done that much yet.
We may have to bring in new team members...particularly ones with some experience with SCP.
Also keep in mind that the Golgotha was never designed as a one of a kind ship :D
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I know it wasn't one-of-a-kind, but considering it was just a prototype, I figured the GTVA wouldn't have had time to make more than 1. Hence...unique.
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The retarded days of the Colossus and Khonsu's plans are over.
"Why build one when you can build two at twice the price?"
The above isn't official or anything, just my take on things :nervous:
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At twice the price? :wtf:
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He's making a joke...
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Originally posted by Raa
At twice the price? :wtf:
You've never seen Contact have you...
"There's government spending for you! Why build one when you can have two for twice the price!"
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Heh, didn't think anyone would recognise it.
Yeah.
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If I have seen it, I don't recall it. Sorry I don't waste braincells on quotes that aren't from Futurama :p
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Mor good screenshots????:confused: :wtf: :thepimp: :eek2: :p:hopping: :confused: :yes:
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We never said that.
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They're all standalone, but as Ace said, BWO has some references to the oldies.
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remember, the idea with the Golgotha was to build a _fleet_ of them.
one Golgotha won't do a whole hell of a lot of good against 80 Saths.
and this is more like what main cannon is suposed to look like:
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/htl_goth03.jpg)
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...and that boys and girls is the HT&L Golgotha.
See why waiting for us to upgrade the mods is a good thing?
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Ohhh!!! Nice!
Listen, you mentioned a while ago that you may need some help on the upgrade mods department... I can make you HT&L version of your ships, UV map the ones wich have a texture map already.
I believe you already know my modelling work :)
I'll be out untill the 18th of this month, but if you need any help, just drop me a PM.
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Alas, the only ship to be HTl-ed without having been released ! :D
But certainly beautiful in that lighting.
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Nah, Bobb's been doing some other BWO ships this way too ;)
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Originally posted by High Max
There are only 2 Golgathas?
The concept was "not all of your eggs in one basket". The Golgotha class was designed to counter the Sathanas...but not typically as a single ship but in a small group. If a Sathanas fleet were to invade a star system for instance, a group of 3 Golgotha class ships would sit just outside of the Sathanas' range, and blast them as they came through (basically one by one).
The Meson cannon, although powerful, will not fell a Sathanas in a single typical burst. The weapon can be stretched to incredible destructive limits (upto the levels of the Shivan weapons) but at incredible cost to the vessel firing it. In terms of the fiction of the story, a Golgotha class firing a prolonged Meson beam is just as likely to blow itself up as it is to blow up its target.
Unlike some campaigns that have come and gone...there are no super ships in BWO. The Golgotha class is as "realistic" as possible.
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There can't be too many of them though; it's gone from prototype to production version far too rapidly as it is.
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Shivans have been at it alot longer than us, remember.
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Just a reference of sorts.
HTL Golgotha(s)
TNT2
16bit color
Only jpeg/tga and Glowpoints enabled
Medium detail
(http://web.comhem.se/~u72302126/HTLaction.jpg)
FPS died, but I love it. Imagine how it will look on your computer.
Heh, this crappy card can do alot more of course.
I'll put an update in a minute hehe.
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*sigh* If shinemaps worked with ATI cards I'd be showing off some really nice new screens ;)
That's actually the main reason there haven't been a ton of new screenshot updates. Ever since shinemaps stopped working with ATI cards, it hasn't generally looked good enough to take them.
This mission though I just had to take shots of to be a tease :)
As it is, you're stuck with shots like this:
(http://www.savant-online.net/graphics/bwo_screen13.jpg)
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Revert to cat 4.4's or use OGL, and shinemaps will work just fine on an ATi Card. ;)
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TNT2 at maximum.
Mipmapping
32bit
Glowmaps
jpeg/tga
Specular
4 fps so I couldn't keep a still shot.
(http://web.comhem.se/~u72302126/Arr2.jpg)
(http://web.comhem.se/~u72302126/Arr3.jpg)
(http://web.comhem.se/~u72302126/Arr1.jpg)
Also I forgot to mention I don't have any mv_packs, so that's without them (I have LS's textures though).
Your computer = w1n.
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Originally posted by BlackDove
*snip* now that you fixed it. :p
learn to use the image tags :p
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Used image tags.
Tried lvlshot tags (that didn't work for some reason)
Reverted to images.
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It didn't work because you had [lvlshot] ending the first one. [/vlshot] ending the second, and /lvlshot] ending the third. :p
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Yeah. I didn't put it together until you said it. All images fixed now.
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...you know all this makes me wonder, are you guys useing the 'new*' sounds for that meson beam, you know the bwasoooooweeeeooooweeeooo one
*more than a year or two old
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I'm using the
wwwwwwwzzzzzzzooooooooooooobrrrrrrrrroooooooom
If you're not sure about something, shove it in internal, we'll go over it.
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Is that other Golgotha the GTD Desdemona?
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Perhaps.
It could be the scourge of space, the GTD Jack Thompson though... (since we renamed the Golgotha the Jack Sparrow and other ship the Jack O'Neill if you paid attention to earlier updates)
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Jack Sparrow 4TW!
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Originally posted by High Max
That was an April folls joke and I think it is best to keep it as "Golgatha" instead of a pirate person's name let alone a person's name at all.
There goes the SJ Ronald Reagan then...
Too bad it won't recall destroying Capella anymore...
...we were going to add in Shivans in BWO just for that... :sigh:
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Add in Shivans?
BWO is all about Shivans. They're in almost every mission What're you talking about?
Har.