[blowfish]

I have to disagree.  I think that renaming all of the Shivan ships would make it confusing and distracting for the player.

[ShadowGorrath]

Ancients could do with a renaming. Though I was thinking of calling the juggernaut as a 'AJ Guardian'.

[blowfish]

AJ Guardian

Keep with the Minoan names.

[Droid803]

Keep with the Minoan names.

On second thought, that's not a bad idea.


p.s. What IS a Vina?

[ShadowGorrath]

Heh, alright  

I'll keep the original names for Ancient ships, I think. But Minoan and other names will go for mission specific ships.

[terran_emperor]

Personally id change the names to give the campaign a more alien feel...

As what a Vina is... well its supposed to be the the SPk Vinashak[sp?] - that planet killer from INF R1...I forgot how to spell its name

[ShadowGorrath]

The planet killer won't be here.

Hmm... Thinking on how to present the 'System beyond Gamma Draconis'. I need people to know that it's exactly THAT system, but it needs to be renamed. . .

[terran_emperor]

Okay why not use Norse mythology names for the Star-systems according to the ancients
ie
Alfheimr = Ancient Homesystem (if not Altair)*/Diones (that system from the FS Ref bible)
Asgard = Altair (if not Ancient Homesystem)*
Valhalla = Aldebaren
Jotunheimr = Alpha Centauri
Gastropnir = Sirius
Midgard = Vasuda System
Muspelheim = Deneb
Niðavellir = Vega
Niflheim = Sol
Svartálfaheim = Capella
Vanaheimr = Gamma Draconis
Ragnarok = Nebula beyond Gamma Daconis
Hel = Shivan binary System

Notice the pattern in the naming

Yggdrasil = Subspace
Bifrost = Jump Node
Ginnungagap = Nomal space

*Hey, it is never right-out stated that Altair was the Ancients Homesystem. It is entirly possible that Altair was a colony where the last of the Ancients fled before being exterminated. My theory on the shivan movements in FS1 is that they plough though the enemy military and take out the homeworld(s) then goe back out wiping out every other colony.

[Droid803]

"Niðavellir" will not show up in FS2 lol.
And no...renaming the systems will make it even MORE confusing. Noone would get which system is which. At least, for a ship, you can still visually identify it as a Lucifer or a Demon...not the case with star systems.

And ur, do you have some sort of *erhm* for Norse mythology? its already used to name Terran ships, you know... Its not very "ancients".

The planet killer won't be here.

Hmm... Thinking on how to present the 'System beyond Gamma Draconis'. I need people to know that it's exactly THAT system, but it needs to be renamed. . .

Its the CRAB SYSTEM! or the LUPUS system!

[terran_emperor]

Change it to Nioavellir and it will...
as for renaming the system...Just past the new names over the old names on a starmap. In fact ill work on one and post it...

And its supposed to be confusing...Youd be playing as an Alien from 8000 years ago....Of course they'll have different names for things (Think Breen/Sweedish meatballs from babylon 5 or Gin&Tonic from tHHGttG)

And just so you know, I final all ancient mythology facinating
Norse
Native American
Greek/Roman
Ancient Egyptian
Japanese
The war of heaven between God and Lucifer

As for naming ships, sure there are some dabbles in to Norse mythology (Mjolnir, Loki, Jotunheim, Valkyrie + a few others i think), the primary nomenclature for Terrans seems to greek/roman mythology.

Norse mythology hasn't been used as a primary nomenclature yet

I was thinking that while Terrans apply Minoan names to the Ancients, id have have the ancients actually use something like Norse or Babylonian/Sumarian names while the shivans use Aztec or Inca names for thenselves

[blowfish]

And its supposed to be confusing...Youd be playing as an Alien from 8000 years ago....Of course they'll have different names for things (Think Breen/Sweedish meatballs from babylon 5 or Gin&Tonic from tHHGttG)

But the player is supposed to be one of the Aliens, so they should know about the Ancients.  Anyway, if you took what you are saying to the next level, all of the text would probably be in some strange hieroglyphs and the ship controls would be undecipherable.

[Droid803]

But the player is supposed to be one of the Aliens, so they should know about the Ancients.  Anyway, if you took what you are saying to the next level, all of the text would probably be in some strange hieroglyphs and the ship controls would be undecipherable.

QFT

[terran_emperor]

@blowfish
Its a Translation convention
TARDIS telepathic circuits - All text, while in universe would be alien Hieroglyphs, is tranlated for the players-conveniance to english (Plus it Retro-activly explains how the Daleks can have a Radiation detector labelled in english )

Allso i'd provide a glossery.

I really dont think that the Ancients would call Bet Cygni i think they call it something different

[blowfish]

Who would look at a glossary anyway? And even if they did, who would remember enough of it to be able to understand what is going on in the game?  I see your point, but from a gameplay point of view, it just makes much more sense to use the terran names.

[Droid803]

Well, if you want to add a character in the story, you could make the player a Terran that gets thrown back 8000 years in time and witnesses the events from the eyes of a pilot or something. It's slightly cheesy though, and takes away from the coolness factor. However, you get to tell a story, not just a space war with pretty special effects. Plus, the player identifies more.

That's always an excuse to keep the Terran designations

[blowfish]

Just ... no.

[Droid803]

Yea, I know. It's stupid.

[terran_emperor]

Yep. Its easiar if you have a map with both the Ancients Names and the Terran Designations

[blowfish]

Or just use the Terran Designations, for the purposes of this campaign, and to make the player's life easier.

[Droid803]

Or just use the Terran Designations, for the purposes of this campaign, and to make the player's life easier.

yea. Don't want to have to refer to the node map every time.