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TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
karajorma:
If there is enough interest in getting a team together to do it, I'd definitely be willing to make a release with everything bundled together and working. I think the difficulty of getting a working TBP set up is one of the reasons why it doesn't get the attention it deserves. I'd like to see it bundled up in the same way I did with Diaspora. One download, as an executable, that sticks everything in the right places.
wesp5:
--- Quote from: karajorma on March 04, 2016, 10:24:05 pm ---If there is enough interest in getting a team together to do it, I'd definitely be willing to make a release with everything bundled together and working.
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I don't think there is a team needed, if you could do a Battlestar installer you could probably do one for The Babylon Project too :)! I would suggest at least two new releases, maybe three:
1. The Babylon Project Installer 3.5 which should include 3.4b as installer inside an installer because I think there was a deal that the latter mustn't be modified and then Zathras 2.8 and FSO 2.7 and wxlauncher should be installed on top in one go. I even considered doing this myself, but I am still busy with the Bloodlines patch and I don't know how to do the installer inside the installer bit that would be needed.
2. The Babylon Project Campaign Pack 2.5 which should include all the stuff in the 2.0 pack, plus my fixes for the Star Fury Missions and the First Ones missions and all the updated and finished campaigns, like Drums of War and Operations 2.0 and the MP improvements. Some of these are on the ModDB, but a lot would have been found here buried somewhere in the forum, in the hope that all the links are still alive.
3. Optional: A DVD 2.0 version including the two installers above in one big iso file.
karajorma:
If I were to do this, I have no intention of keeping to the insane rule of not changing the 3.4 VPs, or using ISO files, or maintaining more than one download per platform. It's exactly this sort of thing that has been slowly strangling the life out of this project. We need a single download that sets up all the mods and files so that users aren't messing about with confusing multiple downloads.
Before I'd be willing to bundle everything together, I'd need help fixing any errors that debug flags. I believe there are still some. Things would need testing to ensure they work with newer FSO builds. I also have a very slow internet connection so actually uploading after bundling would be difficult. So if it proves impossible, I'd have to work out the process to make the installer work and then give instructions to someone with a faster connection. I'd also need someone to handle the Linux and Mac side of things. I see no reason to leave those platforms out.
So yeah, it's not a simple thing to do. I certainly am willing to do it, but I don't think I can do it alone.
wesp5:
--- Quote from: karajorma on March 05, 2016, 08:41:03 pm ---If I were to do this, I have no intention of keeping to the insane rule of not changing the 3.4 VPs, or using ISO files, or maintaining more than one download per platform. It's exactly this sort of thing that has been slowly strangling the life out of this project. We need a single download that sets up all the mods and files so that users aren't messing about with confusing multiple downloads.
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I actually agree with you on this and never understood myself the seperation into TBP and Zathras. If you are willing to take the wrath of any old developers, I'm fine with that ;)! So should the name of the whole thing be TBP 3.5 or were there enough changes made to merit 4.0? I arrived a little bit late to the party when 3.4b was already out, but I always hated the "b" bit which sounds like "beta".
--- Quote ---Things would need testing to ensure they work with newer FSO builds.
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I could help you out with some of that. I think just recently someone fixed a FSO 2.7.2 issue in Zathras, but I didn't get what needs to be changed as I am not a great FSO specialist! If the mod does not actually benefit from new FSO features we could also include 2.7.0 with the whole thing, because this works with Zathras 2.8 for sure. Also how about features that are not yet included in 2.8, but mentioned here?
--- Quote ---I also have a very slow internet connection so actually uploading after bundling would be difficult.
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I could handle that because I have very fast upload at the university.
--- Quote ---I'd also need someone to handle the Linux and Mac side of things.
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I can't help you there...
Col. Fishguts:
--- Quote from: wesp5 on March 06, 2016, 12:05:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: karajorma on March 05, 2016, 08:41:03 pm ---If I were to do this, I have no intention of keeping to the insane rule of not changing the 3.4 VPs, or using ISO files, or maintaining more than one download per platform. It's exactly this sort of thing that has been slowly strangling the life out of this project. We need a single download that sets up all the mods and files so that users aren't messing about with confusing multiple downloads.
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I actually agree with you on this and never understood myself the seperation into TBP and Zathras. If you are willing to take the wrath of any old developers, I'm fine with that ;)! So should the name of the whole thing be TBP 3.5 or were there enough changes made to merit 4.0? I arrived a little bit late to the party when 3.4b was already out, but I always hated the "b" bit which sounds like "beta".
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Go for it, this 3.4b is holy and should not be touched anymore was never a good idea.
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