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Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 03:07:06 pm
ok, from having read all the dire warnings I get the feeling that this may not be such a good idea, but...

Having read the posts about Volition being quite quiet about a certain product that everybody here has a degree of intrest in, I decided to go and have a quick look for some info. My first little stab seems to have  turned up something,  

There is a Freespace 3, 4 & 5 (.com), registererd by Volition, Inc. on the first of December 2004 which seems to be an slightly different to the  registration date (and name address etc.) shown on freespace2.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=AD5MTK3NC2SDICWMEAQSFEY?whoistoken=0&_requestid=332460

I was just wondering, after a quick search of the board I couldn't see anything about anyone else having looked for any info- Does anybody  else know anything about this?

:nervous:  Don't kill me? Please?
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 03:19:21 pm
...









Wow.

Interesting.  I don't think I know anything else to say...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: MatthewPapa on February 01, 2005, 03:21:44 pm
hmmm...u actually may have a point.
Good job,
but ur one out of thousands tho...

So at least they still consider it a possiblity.......
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 03:24:57 pm
Coming in 2012!
FreeSpace 5: The Last Great War!
[/b]
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Andreas on February 01, 2005, 03:27:24 pm
Definately interesting, but Freespace 5? :wtf: Mmm...okay.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Flipside on February 01, 2005, 03:34:12 pm
Well, it was the same for Bullfrog and Dungeon Keeper, they kept sites for DK3, 4 and 5 for years after they cancelled DK3. I also think much the same thing exists for Homeworld and a few other games. It's not so much 'planning ahead' as 'covering all eventualities'.

It was because of that spate of people buying sites like 'ManchesterUnited.com' etc so they could sell them to the actual clubs, businesses etc at vastly inflated prices.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Moonsword on February 01, 2005, 03:35:31 pm
Still, very, very interesting.  Good investigative work.

:welcome:
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 03:39:30 pm
it was registererd two months ago though?

Actually, if you take a look there are (UK) legal precedents against people that register a domain name with the intent to sell it on to a company at an inflated price, on the basis that the only reason for possessing it is to basicially blackmail someone as they can't tolerate the domain not being in there possession. With the precedent it would be fairly simple to get a court order to release a domain.

[EDIT] @Moonsword, aww thanks I feel welcome now. I was kind of expecting to be burnt alive...[/EDIT]
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: MatthewPapa on February 01, 2005, 03:45:09 pm
Wow, this happened such a short time ago...after the DS incident. They might be talking to THQ. :v: 's website isnt very informing on what they may be up to though.

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[EDIT] @Moonsword, aww thanks I feel welcome now. I was kind of expecting to be burnt alive...[/EDIT] [/B]


Well you dont get burnt alive if you have something credible for us to listen to. Go see what else you can find since you obviously have a knack for this kind of thing.

:welcome:
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Carl on February 01, 2005, 03:49:29 pm
i remember a few years ago i checked out www.freespace5.com, and it was a PXO squadron's website.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: WeatherOp on February 01, 2005, 03:53:52 pm
Wierd but cool, good work finding that out.:D :yes:
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Flipside on February 01, 2005, 04:05:45 pm
I hope yoiu're right, but it may just be that the registration was renewed 2 months ago. I'm not trying to shoot you down in flames btw, I just want to make sure we don't get over-excited ;)

Oh, and I forgot last time...

:welcome:

:D
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Gai Daigoji on February 01, 2005, 04:14:55 pm
I really want to say something about this but I am forbidden to :(

Anyways welcome to the HLP forum! :D
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 04:29:12 pm
The records show that Volition registererd the domain, and it shows that they only did it in december.

It has hasen't been there for years because searching for freespace2.com does show that it was registererd years ago,

freespace2.com
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Record expires on 23-Nov-2008     
Record created on 24-Nov-1998
Database last updated on 07-Jul-2004


freespace3.com
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Record expires on 01-Dec-2009     
Record created on 01-Dec-2004
Database last updated on 01-Dec-2004


Feel free to take a look yourself:-
http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/

I am not to sure about what else I can do that could get anything, as someone noted a while ago Volition is not exactly giving out lots of information.

I suppose the obvious thing to do is to sit and type in common filenames into those domains to see if there is a website minus a index page, that seems unlikely to do anything though, which leaves the weakest element in any security system, the human.

Does anyone have any contacts at Volition? it may be possible to use the presense of the domains to knock something loose from the solid wall hiding everything, like ask for comments on the rumor that they are in the final stages of talks with THQ about getting a contract for 3 FS games to continue the FS story. If you play your cards right they might phrase the reply e-mail in such as way it unintentionally gives you some information.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 01, 2005, 04:31:59 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
I hope yoiu're right, but it may just be that the registration was renewed 2 months ago. I'm not trying to shoot you down in flames btw, I just want to make sure we don't get over-excited ;)
Well, they seem to be registered for 5 years at a time.  So if it was in fact renewed, then it was first registered on December 1, 1999... which was right around when FS2 came out.  Crap.

EDIT @ Freyr: "Record created" isn't guaranteed to refer to the original registration.  It could also refer to a renewal.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 04:40:50 pm
you need a smiley shaking his head as well as nodding...

The domain record was created in december, hence december was the first they knew of it. The Record is like a file, it was created on the "created" date, adding another couple of years onto it would be shown under "database last updated".

[EDIT]@Goober5000 Someone said that they visited freespace5.com a few years ago and a fan site had it registererd, hence it couldn't have been registererd by V before whenever that was[/EDIT]
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: aldo_14 on February 01, 2005, 04:41:13 pm
Interesting enough.... maybe they were renewing the domain names partly to piss off a certain oxy-moronic games developer?

However, as an aside;
[q]Descent4.com
   
      Registrant:    Make this info private
      Volition, Inc.  (YCCWPFOWAO)
      2004 Fox Drive Suite B
      Champaign, IL 61820
      US
      Phone: 217-355-0320
      Fax: 123 123 1234
     
      Domain Name: DESCENT4.COM
 
      Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :    
      Muller, Mark **
      (MM17235)
      Email removed (in case of spam-spiders)
2004 FOX DR STE B
      CHAMPAIGN, IL 61820-7336
      US
      Phone: (217) 355-0320
      Fax: (217) 355-0767
     
      Record expires on 19-Apr-2008    
      Record created on 20-Apr-1998
      Database last updated on 07-Jul-2004[/q]
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 04:47:30 pm
which was registererd in 98, instead of like a month ago.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 04:48:11 pm
Notice how FS2's contact is Mark Muller, while FS3's contact is some roryp guy. Yet the decent 4 guy is Mark Muller, too. Interesting.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Ghostavo on February 01, 2005, 04:49:26 pm
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Originally posted by Goober5000
EDIT @ Freyr: "Record created" isn't guaranteed to refer to the original registration.  It could also refer to a renewal.


http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=FreeSpace3.com&type=domain
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   Domain Name: FREESPACE3.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: NS43.WORLDNIC.COM
   Name Server: NS44.WORLDNIC.COM
   Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
   Updated Date: 01-dec-2004
   Creation Date: 01-dec-2004
   Expiration Date: 01-dec-2009


I'm afraid Freyr has a point, the updated date is indeed the renewal date, check with other domains if you want.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 04:49:26 pm
notice they both of those were registererd 7 years ago. Maybe in that time they had a reshuffle or he left?
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 01, 2005, 04:55:35 pm
I stand corrected then. :) I just wanted to be sure we considered all the possibilities. :)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Kie99 on February 01, 2005, 04:55:40 pm
I have sent an email to "Roryp"  I will report back with any news I get.  

EDIT: This must be the biggest reaction to a thread since another Oxy Moron (Derek SMART[/b])!
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Kie99 on February 01, 2005, 05:04:05 pm
A lot of people are searching that site now
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Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: InfernoGod on February 01, 2005, 05:04:32 pm
*sigh* i'm not going to go thru my usual welcoming ordeal.
:welcome:
Exits are to the sides and rear. Personal flamethrowers are located under the seats, but they're probably full of water so you'll need your own napalm. Don't go crawling through the air vents as they're infested with Shivans. However, if you do encounter any Shivans, it's just Carl. Give him your lunch and run away. *breathes* Plasma rifles are located in the lockers up front. However these can only be opened by [V], God, an Admin, or a hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Do not try to enter the control room as it is guarded by subspatial claymore mines. Thank you, and enjoy your stay!
Interesting find, tho. Very interesting.
EDIT: Just went to volition's site, and looked up Mark Muller. Found this on him (note the last sentence):
Mark Muller, Network Administrator
A die hard gamer as long as he can remember, Mark's computer background is long and treacherous. Starting with a TI99/4a using audio tape to store data, then moving into the realm of early Apple PC's, he was introduced to the idea of networking during a 2 year stint at the US Naval Academy and hasn't looked back since. The move to Volition seemed a natural marriage of his two loves, gaming and networks. While not maintaining the Volition network and harrassing techs from various hardware companies, Mark likes to play multiplayer games or sic his cat Ouch on random pedestrians. It's rumored that he blackmailed Volition into giving him the job by infiltrating their network from afar...but no one's proved this yet.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 05:12:24 pm
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
*sigh* i'm not going to go thru my usual welcoming ordeal.
:welcome:
Exits are to the sides and rear. Personal flamethrowers are located under the seats, but they're probably full of water so you'll need your own napalm. Don't go crawling through the air vents as they're infested with Shivans. However, if you do encounter any Shivans, it's just Carl. Give him your lunch and run away. *breathes* Plasma rifles are located in the lockers up front. However these can only be opened by [V], God, an Admin, or a hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Do not try to enter the control room as it is guarded by subspatial claymore mines. Thank you, and enjoy your stay!
Interesting find, tho. Very interesting.


 :lol:  Thats great... The probably the best welcome I have had to a forum, and it explains why I didn't get flamed as well!
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: MatthewPapa on February 01, 2005, 05:12:54 pm
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
*sigh* i'm not going to go thru my usual welcoming ordeal.
Mark Muller, Network Administrator
A die hard gamer as long as he can remember, Mark's computer background is long and treacherous. Starting with a TI99/4a using audio tape to store data, then moving into the realm of early Apple PC's, he was introduced to the idea of networking during a 2 year stint at the US Naval Academy and hasn't looked back since. The move to Volition seemed a natural marriage of his two loves, gaming and networks. While not maintaining the Volition network and harrassing techs from various hardware companies, Mark likes to play multiplayer games or sic his cat Ouch on random pedestrians. It's rumored that he blackmailed Volition into giving him the job by infiltrating their network from afar...but no one's proved this yet.


So he has been there for a while....or so it would seem. He was probably ordered to do this by someone because I doubt they would just do this out of the blue.....no way of finding out who (or what) tho really. I guess at least it proves that they have given more thought on the Freespace franchise instead of just plain forgetting it after interplay died and DS wanted the license. I would venture to say that it is possible they have the license....
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Flipside on February 01, 2005, 05:18:41 pm
Well, this is certainly....interesting news.

I'm not going to get too excited yet though, let's just wait and see what develops :)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: WeatherOp on February 01, 2005, 05:22:33 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Well, this is certainly....interesting news.

I'm not going to get too excited yet though, let's just wait and see what develops :)



I agree with Flip, can't get too excited, not yet anyways. But, how do we know if Freyr isn't an :v: employe leaking information.;7
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: MatthewPapa on February 01, 2005, 05:24:11 pm
Well techincally he diddnt really leak anything. He was just probably following orders.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 05:36:48 pm
Bah. It doesn't really matter. Mindless speculation...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 05:42:53 pm
:lol:, no, I am not a V employee, just for the paranoid ones, I saw something on SGN about an FS->A2 conversion and Galonreaver pointed me to here, I was quite content in Armada 2 before then, since I have been making an effort to go through all of your campaigns. I have sort of slowed down quite a lot now, I am about half way through technical superiority and I throught I would have a look around here, I kind of got sidetracked after reading about the not so smart chap and all the FS3 references all over the place and decided I would have a quick look to see what I could find.

on a side note, here's what V's website has to say about Rory, the guy that registererd the latest domains.

Rory Prendergast, Hardware Tech
Rory [R.O.R.Y.] was built in three 10 minute passes down an assembly line aisle in northern Illinois for the dual purpose of helping people sort out their computer problems and to make hardware recommendations, and he’s been programmed to do it all with a smile. His dark brown hair is Rayon, his space age polymer skin is a trade secret, and his bones are carbon fiber. The CPU brain, manufactured by IBM, is centuries ahead of everything else, be it silicon or carbon based. Volition picked him up in December of 2000 as a Christmas present to the overworked netadmin. He’s quite lifelike, but try as they may, no one here can make him laugh or cry.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: vyper on February 01, 2005, 05:48:52 pm
Interesting...
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Post by: Freyr on February 01, 2005, 05:51:36 pm
oh some of these bios are great, it must have taken them months to have written them.

Daniel J. Wentz, Composer/Sound Designer
After a four year tour of duty with the GTA, Mr Wentz has finally earned his wings and been given an honorable discharge from the Freespace universe. He now is working full time on music, audio and level design for Red Faction. He is also being Summoned from time to time to help out on other projects. When asked to sum up his experience with the Alliance, he was quoted as saying... "Those Vasudan's gave me the willies, I still get junk mail from them from time to time."
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Post by: InfernoGod on February 01, 2005, 05:59:26 pm
:lol:
That's what happens when you don't give them ur head!
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 06:29:10 pm
To hell with Wentz. It's him spamming us! :p
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 01, 2005, 07:02:27 pm
You know something, it would be kinda funny if :v: had the licsense since Interplay died, and was holding it above our heads to see how far the community would reach for it, before giving up.:lol: For some cruel joke.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 01, 2005, 08:00:17 pm
this is interesting news indeed, if it turns out to be true...there will be alot of mods trying to get finished before FS3 were to come out, just so that we wouldn't be wrong AFTER it came out.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 01, 2005, 08:04:34 pm
Good. Some of you folks need a kick in the pants...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Flipside on February 01, 2005, 08:21:14 pm
Well, it could go either way, people could lose heart in their own mods if they knew that [v] was working on a new engine.

But it may well be fun, once TI is done, to look at some sort of total conversion based on a universe completely created by the Modders. It's something I'd love to take on one day, and the SCP is rapidly turning into the program to do it with :)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 08:28:07 pm
I've got my own fleet being assembled. :) Granted, Shadowwolf is using them, but it's more or less how I'd make them anyway, if I were making a fleet for myself. :)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Flipside on February 01, 2005, 08:33:15 pm
hehehe Well, I have a few ideas ;)

Thing is, as I've said before, developing these mods is a bit like a game of chase, I suspect that with quite a few Mods, you'll almost be able to trace the history of features added to the SCP as the campaign goes on.

That's why I'd like to take something else on once it's done and start using the SCP Uber features from the top. Regardless of whether FS3 is being developed or not, I think something designed like that, even outside the FS universe, would have a lot of appeal ;)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: boewolf on February 01, 2005, 08:42:19 pm
If they Did make a FS3 they would have to do a lot to get past what the SCP has done...  Quite a chalenge...  I almost dear them to try it...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Marauder on February 01, 2005, 08:42:42 pm
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Originally posted by Freyr


 :lol:  Thats great... The probably the best welcome I have had to a forum, and it explains why I didn't get flamed as well!


Ahhh, there are many different versions.  Each member modifies it over time when passing it on!
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Corhellion on February 01, 2005, 08:45:02 pm
*looks at thread*

*Sees "freespace 3" in the first post*

*Powers up BFRed*

*Reads somemore*

*Makes sound like Scooby-Doo (Scooobeh?!?!)*

*Jaw hits desk*

...No...****ing...way...*eyes widen*...freespace3.com points you to a networks domain which is underconstruction...but...LOOK AT THE LINKS!! THEY'RE GAMING LINKS!!!

*looks up "Roryp" on Volition*

...He checks out...although he's a hardware tech...odd...

*blink*

...could this be it?
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Axem on February 01, 2005, 08:54:33 pm
*Goes off to register www.freespace6.com*

:drevil:

Anyhow, very interesting. Veeeeery interesting indeed.

Although there have been things like there where a company registers a domain name with an obvious intent but never did anything with it...yet.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: vyper on February 01, 2005, 09:19:08 pm
In some ways we're our own worst enemies. FS3 would never match the SCP because the SCP gives us the same game being constantly improved. Literally daily there are new features - whereas if you have a retail game it's just the same game forever (bar patches).
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Mongoose on February 01, 2005, 10:21:03 pm
vyper, it wouldn't be about features; it would be about the [V] gods finally spilling some more of the beans, and as good as the SCP gets, that's something it can never do. :)
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Taristin on February 01, 2005, 10:24:20 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
In some ways we're our own worst enemies. FS3 would never match the SCP because the SCP gives us the same game being constantly improved. Literally daily there are new features - whereas if you have a retail game it's just the same game forever (bar patches).


That and the SCP is what *we* want, and not what :V: has in mind, necessarily...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 01, 2005, 11:06:41 pm
agreed raa.  That has always been my stance, backj when the merger between hlp and vwbb  for the scp was first being discussed.  FS SCP has always been fs3 to me, but they were doing what i wanted.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 02, 2005, 01:38:53 am
Its about the storyline though, not the graphics engine. I don't really care if V uses the FS2 engine to continue the story, so long as there is an answer to some of the cliff hangers in FS2.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Fergus on February 02, 2005, 04:46:23 am
I have a feeling that you wouldn't get any answers, you would just get a few more questions that would add to the previous campaigns head screwyness, but I doubt this will materilise into much.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: BlackDove on February 02, 2005, 08:05:44 am
Not to be shooting down everyone's hopes but urm.

To me, this domain registration only seems to be a good planning method for Derek Smart or other future Derek Smart's to **** off with their ideas of developing any type of FreeSpace, to which all credit goes back to Volition really.

I think it's just a measure to deny others the name of fs3,4,5. Not a development strategy.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 02, 2005, 10:20:49 am
Then wouldn't it have been better to do it back in July?  Things were much more uncertain back then, and we didn't know that DS wouldn't pre-empt the domain names himself.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 02, 2005, 12:42:31 pm
and if they were doing it just to annoy someone making a FS3, why register 4 & 5 ?

and I don't claim to know about the US but people have lost domains in the UK for doing that, so I presume that a US court would reach a similar conclusion which would make it a rather pointless exercise.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Kie99 on February 02, 2005, 12:43:50 pm
I CAN'T STAND THE WAITNG!!!! :hopping:
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Falcon on February 02, 2005, 12:48:34 pm
Silence your tongue kie you can wait like the rest of us!  :p
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: aldo_14 on February 02, 2005, 01:24:12 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside

But it may well be fun, once TI is done, to look at some sort of total conversion based on a universe completely created by the Modders. It's something I'd love to take on one day, and the SCP is rapidly turning into the program to do it with :)


I'd go for it, no doubt.  I even consider doing it myself a few years back, but the thought of replacing all the interface art..... :ick:
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: karajorma on February 02, 2005, 01:26:47 pm
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Originally posted by Freyr
[EDIT] @Moonsword, aww thanks I feel welcome now. I was kind of expecting to be burnt alive...[/EDIT]


The reason people get flamed for talking about FS3 is cause they all say the same things we've heard a hundred times before. You didn't, so you didn't get flamed :D


I tend to think that this is also just fallout from the Derek Smart thing too. Registering a domain name is pretty cheap.

Has anyone thought of asking [V] if we can put up a redirect to the SCP website there though? If we ask nicely enough and make a page that makes it clear that the SCP isn't connected to Volition itself I can't see why they'd have any huge objection.

I'm not suggesting we ask them to make the site. I'm suggesting that we make up a page ourselves. Something with a single gorgeous shot of something in FS2_Open and a message saying like "Freespace 3 website coming soon. In the meantime check out FS2_Open."
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Goober5000 on February 02, 2005, 02:19:40 pm
:lol: The answer to that would probably reveal whether they were planning FS3. ;)
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Post by: MatthewPapa on February 02, 2005, 02:53:56 pm
Yea exactly.
This evidence gives me much reason to believe that a FS3 concept is on their to-do list. We will probably have to wait a while for it though (2007?)...
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: Freyr on February 02, 2005, 04:03:26 pm
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The answer to that would probably reveal whether they were planning FS3.


:nod: nice idea, Go for it.

If they are looking at doing something with FS, (which personally I think they are doing) then they are probably not willing to discuss it with anyone so they don't get swamped with questions that they either can't answer or don't want to answer.
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: InfernoGod on February 02, 2005, 04:46:13 pm
*meanwhile, at Volition headquarters*
CEO: ****! THEY"RE ONTO US! Send the Head-Eating-Volition-SWAT Team to HLP HQ RIGHT NOW! We can't let word leak out any further!
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: TrashMan on February 02, 2005, 05:21:33 pm
*AT HLP HQ:*
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
"You hear that?"
"VIOLITION SWAT TEAM! ALL PERSONEL, CODE RED!!!!"
"Get the plasma rifles!"
"Screw the plasma rifles, hand me that bug spray over there."
Title: being rapidly flamed to death?
Post by: karajorma on February 02, 2005, 05:31:10 pm
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Originally posted by Goober5000
:lol: The answer to that would probably reveal whether they were planning FS3. ;)


That's a side benifit :) I can't think of any reason they'd turn us down if they weren't working on FS3 and they might not even if they were. A nice FS2_Open screenshot would definately make people want FS3 more than the current "Website coming soon" sign they have now :)

Sadly I'm crap at HTML so I'm not doing it but if we make it so that all [V] have to do is log on and upload a few files they might do it for us. They've always seemed like stand up guys :)
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Post by: Freyr on February 02, 2005, 05:34:13 pm
erm, don't you need a hyperintelligent shade of blue or an admin for the plasmas?

Actually, there may be some point in what your saying, V may be negioating or something and if we get to noisey and they are in delicate talks then we may sort of erm... yeah.

Has V replied to that e-mail yet?

[EDIT]

I can do HTML. Hell, if they want I can do them an entire website... V probably won't do a site for a while unless they do websites in house, (which I doubt) because most design companies change in the thousands. The company I work for was looking around for a web design company to revamp our site and they all wanted around £8000 just to change the style.  Of course, that just means I am now webmaster at work ;)

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Post by: MatthewPapa on February 02, 2005, 06:36:28 pm
I am curious.... do most game companies keep development of games like this a secret or do they announce it at like 90% completion?
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 03, 2005, 01:59:20 am
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Originally posted by Freyr
erm, don't you need a hyperintelligent shade of blue or an admin for the plasmas?


Or a [V] God, who outrank all shades and admins.
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 03, 2005, 08:36:25 am
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Originally posted by MatthewPapa
I am curious.... do most game companies keep development of games like this a secret or do they announce it at like 90% completion?



Not really, the anounced LO-MAC 3 1/2 years before they finally released it. And it still is not completed.:mad2:
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Post by: Kie99 on February 03, 2005, 09:23:59 am
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Originally posted by Freyr

Has V replied to that e-mail yet?


'fraid not.
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Post by: MatthewPapa on February 03, 2005, 03:59:32 pm
I doubt you will, but if you do the response will probably be pretty vague.
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Post by: boewolf on February 03, 2005, 04:01:50 pm
Any response can be interpreted in a number of ways...  How far does your imagination go?
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 03, 2005, 04:21:27 pm
If they respond, it will be" can't give any details right now",  lets all just wait till E3. Maybe we can get an anwser then.
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Post by: Taristin on February 03, 2005, 04:47:30 pm
Hold your breath. :p
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Post by: MatthewPapa on February 03, 2005, 04:54:51 pm
Seeing a new Freespace game at E3 would literally make my year. I know all of this is just speculation right now but I cant help but thinking about it. :)

By the way (I was just thinking this), isnt this timeframe almost perfect for when the domains were registered. I mean diddnt :v:'s new game "the punisher" get released the same month?
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Post by: Taristin on February 03, 2005, 05:00:52 pm
One project down... time to start on the next...
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Post by: Goober5000 on February 03, 2005, 05:29:20 pm
It is an interesting coincidence... :)

EDIT: I checked their job board (http://www.volition-inc.com/v_employment.cfm), wondering if that might provide some insight.  While they have many positions available, the only "level designer" position requires knowledge of 3DS Max or some other modelling tool.  This doesn't fit particularly well with FS3 as we know it, unless they're making some sort of FPS. :ick:
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Post by: Taristin on February 03, 2005, 05:39:14 pm
I think I'll choose to remain skeptical. For now.
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 03, 2005, 06:12:54 pm
BUt, the thing is, how do we know they have not been checking in HLP and SG. And if they have, they know all about Twisted Infinites, and that people want to fly thru atmosphere. Or they could be making another Descent game.:nod: Whitch is allright with me, as long as FS3 is next.
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Post by: Flipside on February 03, 2005, 09:28:09 pm
hehehehe Actually, I seem to recall that the original FS2 models were made in 3DS ;)
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Post by: StratComm on February 03, 2005, 09:41:31 pm
But I'd hardly think a level designer would be necessary for an open-space based game.  Lets face it, Freespace has no "levels" as any other game would know them.  That's for some kind of FPS.
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Post by: Setekh on February 04, 2005, 12:08:00 am
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Originally posted by Raa
I think I'll choose to remain skeptical. For now.


Agreed. If something happens, it happens. :)
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Post by: Fergus on February 04, 2005, 03:57:12 am
Or, they are just keeping the domain names so they can sell them off for an exorbarant fee to whoever wants them.
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Post by: Kie99 on February 04, 2005, 09:59:11 am
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Originally posted by Black Wolf


Or a [V] God, who outrank all shades and admins.


All the welcome messages I've seen say :v:, God
Not :v: God

(There's a comma, hence :v: can break out the plasmas and so can God)

There is an AI position open on the :v: Job board as well, and God knows FS needs better AI.
Yay! HTML code is on!
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 04, 2005, 10:56:29 am
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Originally posted by kietotheworld


All the welcome messages I've seen say :v:, God
Not :v: God
 


They are wrong. "The [V] Gods" has been around since the VBB.
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Post by: phreak on February 04, 2005, 11:28:56 am
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Originally posted by StratComm
But I'd hardly think a level designer would be necessary for an open-space based game.  Lets face it, Freespace has no "levels" as any other game would know them.  That's for some kind of FPS.


perhaps its just a more general term.
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Post by: Gloriano on February 04, 2005, 01:50:49 pm
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Originally posted by Raa


That and the SCP is what *we* want, and not what :V: has in mind, necessarily...


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agreed raa. That has always been my stance, backj when the merger between hlp and vwbb for the scp was first being discussed. FS SCP has always been fs3 to me, but they were doing what i wanted.


I'am in same boat as Shadow and Raa i think SCP is only thing we need because it's evolve
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Post by: Kie99 on February 04, 2005, 03:31:16 pm
The release of FS3 wouldn't necessarily stop all the SCP, after all :v: wouldn't be constantly patching FS3 would they.
It'd be good if the SCP actually outdid FS3.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 04, 2005, 03:44:38 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
But I'd hardly think a level designer would be necessary for an open-space based game.  Lets face it, Freespace has no "levels" as any other game would know them.  That's for some kind of FPS.


I beg to differ with that; I'm intending to try and bring FPS-style 'concepts' into FS2 missions (unique 'architecture' and props, scripted 'impact events', etc).
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Post by: MatthewPapa on February 04, 2005, 03:50:21 pm
I sure hope your right Aldo....
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Post by: Corsair on February 04, 2005, 05:52:56 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld


All the welcome messages I've seen say :v:, God
Not :v: God

(There's a comma, hence :v: can break out the plasmas and so can God)


Err... no. It's a [V] God, not V, God. God doesn't have permission to touch the plasma rifles here. Those newer welcome messages have it wrong... that's evolution for you.
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Post by: Grimloq on February 04, 2005, 07:50:36 pm
God doesn't want them plasma rifles. He got mad at me because i pulled one on Him cuz i thought He was Raa (hey! He snuck up behind me!) and let me tell you, lightning striking the top of your head really hurts. a lot. ow.




























ow.




oh, and the plasma rifles don't work anyway, do they? we ran out of ammo, and then threw them away in favor of mortar duels, right?
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Post by: Taristin on February 04, 2005, 08:07:22 pm
*shoots grimloq with a plasma pistol*

Bugger.
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Post by: Axem on February 04, 2005, 08:17:00 pm
What does God need with a plasma rifle?

I mean he can make lighting come out of his finger, what does he need with a physical weapon?
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Post by: Carl on February 04, 2005, 08:24:36 pm
it's nice looking.
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Post by: Grimloq on February 04, 2005, 08:55:00 pm
ow.
























ow.


















hey! >_< Raa shot me!
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 04, 2005, 09:04:18 pm
Hey not with a plasma pistol, the Adm.s keep a holdable M-16 laser in the second closet on the right in the basement.



:nervous: You did not get this information from me.
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Post by: Grimloq on February 04, 2005, 09:05:33 pm
but your siggy confirms it.. :nervous:
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Post by: Taristin on February 04, 2005, 11:42:50 pm
The intro has always said there were no plasma rifles for the forumites. Fortunately I brought my plasma pistol. Hand tooled in a covv't sweat shop, by a bunch of fanatical, if not ADHD, jackals.
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Post by: Charismatic on February 05, 2005, 12:20:47 pm
*Just finished reading all 4 pages*
Anyone wana PM me about what hapened to Interplay\ About {v}?

Why dose V not put good info on their site? Its all the same, they barely update it from what i can see.
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Post by: Corhellion on February 05, 2005, 12:25:39 pm
*pulls out a crate of Plasma Cells*

New shipment...UAC grade Plasma Cells.

*looks again, at the half empty crate*

...uh...it came that way...

*runs*
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Post by: Kie99 on February 05, 2005, 02:54:52 pm
:wtf:
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Post by: Corsair on February 05, 2005, 05:27:07 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
The intro has always said there were no plasma rifles for the forumites. Fortunately I brought my plasma pistol. Hand tooled in a covv't sweat shop, by a bunch of fanatical, if not ADHD, jackals.
Indeed. It's always gone something like this:

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Welcome to HLP!

Exits are to your right and left, and flamethrowers are under your seat. Be careful, though, as they are sometimes filled with water. If this is the case, try to club someone with the non-working shotguns in the weapon closet. Also, be careful while wandering the ventilation shafts. If you see a large, six-legged creature that looks really pissed, give him your lunch and he'll hopefully go away. In the event of an emergency, you can and will be used as a flotation device.  The Plasma rifles in the forward locker are released only under authorization of an Admin, [V] God, and/or hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Oh, and whatever you do, don't hit on Tiara, no matter how good of an idea it might seem.
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Post by: InfernoGod on February 05, 2005, 10:44:36 pm
Not the way I was greeted. I just copied 'n' pasted it into a notepad file, since I wasn't going to memorize that. So complain to whoever told that to me.
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Post by: Freyr on February 06, 2005, 06:23:11 am
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Originally posted by Charismatic
*Just finished reading all 4 pages*
Anyone wana PM me about what hapened to Interplay\ About {v}?

Why dose V not put good info on their site? Its all the same, they barely update it from what i can see.


If they are anything like my company nobody was made specificially responsible for updating it so nobody has done anything.  Ours has only had the address changed on it in three years.
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Post by: TrashMan on February 06, 2005, 04:36:43 pm
Ahem! Since when are shivans six legged? Weren't they supposed to have 5 legs?
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Post by: Unknown Target on February 06, 2005, 05:29:29 pm
Three legs. Wtf are you all on? :wtf: They have three legs, and a big claw on the top.
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Post by: redsniper on February 06, 2005, 05:49:50 pm
five limbs. that's three 'legs' and two 'arms'
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2005, 06:09:27 pm
(http://www.descent-freespace.com/goodies/gallery/species/svm0001.jpg)
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Post by: Corsair on February 06, 2005, 10:23:21 pm
It said six legs? Oops. Better fix that.:blah:
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Post by: tofu on February 07, 2005, 09:58:01 am
Maybe it's three legs, two arms, and one really long pecker
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Post by: Kie99 on February 07, 2005, 10:02:19 am
:shaking:
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Post by: Kie99 on February 08, 2005, 12:20:11 pm
Doesn't everyone have a slightly different welcome message?
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Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2005, 04:01:22 pm
*goes back to "janitor's closet"* :drevil:

Yep nothing but good ol' quality flamethrowers here........... ;)




ooops shouldn't have said that......... :nervous:



*puts "janitor's closet" on lockdown*
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Post by: Corsair on February 08, 2005, 04:58:26 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
Doesn't everyone have a slightly different welcome message?
:nod:
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 08, 2005, 06:04:31 pm
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Originally posted by Falcon
*goes back to "janitor's closet"* :drevil:

Yep nothing but good ol' quality flamethrowers here........... ;)




ooops shouldn't have said that......... :nervous:



*puts "janitor's closet" on lockdown*



Raa isn't gonna like you putting the Janitor's closet on lockdown, you know.:shaking:
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Post by: Scuddie on February 10, 2005, 07:51:21 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
Doesn't everyone have a slightly different welcome message?
Yes.  And you should have seen MY welcome message :D.

EDIT:  This was the first, and probably last, welcome message I gave out.
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I did this one
Welcome to the armpit of space, KyJelly. Exits are at the left or right, depending on whether you're smart enough to distinguish between left and right. If you see a Shivan, punch his lights out. That's Carl, and he stole my lunch. Bastard. Flamethrowers are under the seats. DO NOT USE THEM! The high concentration of oxygen makes everything flammable, and he's a smartass, whoever decided to put flamethrowers under the seats... What?? My "rambling" is pissing you off? Get the hell out of here you damn useless excuse for a pilot! GET LOST!!

Somehow, for some reason, that didnt sound very welcoming. I'll try better next time.  :blah:
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Post by: Falcon on February 11, 2005, 06:26:56 am
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Originally posted by WeatherOp



Raa isn't gonna like you putting the Janitor's closet on lockdown, you know.:shaking:


Raa some how seems to get in there anyways no matter what security measures. So I basically just gave up with him. Yes he has access........ :nervous:
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Post by: Windrunner on February 11, 2005, 09:39:34 am
this is turning in to spam..