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Title: For clarification...
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 13, 2010, 06:42:58 pm
(Since the other thread got locked before I could respond)

I know it looks like I just repeatedly bash on Inferno, but I'm not meaning it in any bad way.  Inferno was one of the mods I was really looking forward to, and I still love the big ships.  I just call problems like I see them.  It's nothing against the Inferno team at all; you guys rock.  I just hate it when awesome mods are given rushed, bug-filled, problematic releases.  I know you guys are working on it too, and it's extremely commendable.

And I know you guys get busy.  Same here, I've been trying to work on a sequel to the 10 mission campaign I released four years ago, but things just get in the way.  It's understandable. 

Just keep up the good work.  Again, I don't want to hurt your motivation or desire to work on this; I just want to do my best as an outsider from the team to help Inferno be the best it can. :)
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: IronForge on January 13, 2010, 08:18:44 pm
Good job for getting my thread locked, punt.
Anyway, you don't make another thread about locked threads, I got banned for that...
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 13, 2010, 08:22:57 pm
Not for this. It's a happy productive thread.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Rodo on January 13, 2010, 08:27:48 pm
Good job for getting my thread locked, punt.
Anyway, you don't make another thread about locked threads, I got banned for that...

was just a thread... you can make another one any time, and I sence you got banned for something else :p
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 14, 2010, 12:30:36 am
I agree Inferno was pretty good and I did play through it a few times back in the day. I just wish there was more to the Shivan part of the story than just bashing Shivans. It would be nice to have more development around the species. I know many like it kept secret to make them stay mysterious, but BP came up with their own fanon on them, and Inferno can do the same. It would make a world a difference.

I know people work and have lives, but BP seems to move along despite this. I know this is not about BP.  But I'm curious; even with lives and work, would it take 10 years to release a campaign when it is not a solo made campaign and has a few team members?

But I agree it is good to take your time if it means a good campaign, as long as people don't give up on the project after so much work has been done.

Will there be any Shivan development like there was in FS1 and FS2 and other fan-made campaigns?

Edited to fix typo: 'alone' should have been 'along'.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 14, 2010, 12:37:42 am
Development takes time. A lot of time, unpredictable time. Sometimes not much progress is made for long stretches of time; sometimes a lot happens in very little.

Something will happen sooner or later on the INF front. Just let it be.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Mongoose on January 14, 2010, 01:02:01 am
Development takes time. A lot of time, unpredictable time. Sometimes not much progress is made for long stretches of time; sometimes a lot happens in very little.
Also, feature creep.  Just ask Goober and Galemp about that. :p
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: mr.WHO on January 14, 2010, 09:54:52 am
I have some concern about Inferno. This mod is special to me coz it was a first thing ever that convinced me to register at internet forum (and if I look back then...wow it was soo long ago, almost at dark age of 56k modems for me).

There was a time when I was happy about so much progress (INF:A release, WIP on INF:SCP, INF:A SA, INF:A2 and even some shots of half-confirmed INF:Gateways). Now I start to think that even closest to release INF:A SA will die before release :(
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Snail on January 14, 2010, 12:17:18 pm
I expect progress will pick up if/when Mobius comes back.


Hell someone might be working on it right now for all we know. Inferno doesn't place such a high priority on public relations as it once did (partly because of the moronic rubbish we've seen lately).
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Commander Zane on January 14, 2010, 12:33:57 pm
Development takes time. A lot of time, unpredictable time. Sometimes not much progress is made for long stretches of time; sometimes a lot happens in very little.
Also, feature creep.  Just ask Goober and Galemp about that. :p
That's what has Inferno pinned down, some posts I've read a few threads saying that FREDding was done or just a mere mission away, and that was nearly two years ago.

I expect progress will pick up if/when Mobius comes back.
Where has he been anyway?
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 14, 2010, 12:35:13 pm
I believe that's wrong. I don't think INF SCP actually has any FRED progress yet; they're still working on the modpack.

Or so I'm led to understand.

INFASA on the other hand is in an extended polishing phase, but Mobius has gone MIA.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Commander Zane on January 14, 2010, 12:35:48 pm
It is INFASA.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Snail on January 14, 2010, 02:01:06 pm
A campaign with such a long development cycle as Inferno is bound to get bogged down, which is what we're seeing on many of the projects hosted on this board.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 14, 2010, 02:32:26 pm
I sent this offline message to Mobius: Some of the HLP members and I are talking about Inferno and we are wondering about progress. Snail believes progress will probably pick up again when you return, but they are wondering where you are. Have you been working on INF recently?

Something like that.

I occasionally see him online, but we don't really chat much.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Snail on January 14, 2010, 02:34:58 pm
Last active: December 21st...

He might be going through another RL crisis or something.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 14, 2010, 02:36:12 pm
I assumed he was on your contact list, Snail, since you guys worked together, but you seem to not know his status, so maybe he is not on your list anymore. I'm not sure.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 14, 2010, 02:43:14 pm
Well, tell him we're thinking of him and we hope everything's okay.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 14, 2010, 02:43:49 pm
He might be going through another RL crisis or something.
I've been meaning to mention this somewhere, but if the Franscesco D'Amico I dug up from the Hard Light Facebook group is Mobius, he has either some issues or a weird sense of humour, since this person has marked himself as a widow and a father of three.

Or Facebook has localization issues.

:nervous:

Edit: It's gotta be him. The MSN address matches.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Snail on January 14, 2010, 03:07:44 pm
I knew Mobius' real life was rather... Unstable, to say the least, but this is just kinda tragic (if it's true)...
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 14, 2010, 03:16:45 pm
That would be awful.  :(
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 14, 2010, 04:38:05 pm
Ill just send him the link to this thread. It's better and faster than telling him what everyone says in this thread.


Oh, and I will tell him you all hope he is ok.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: asyikarea51 on January 17, 2010, 08:39:40 am
Among all the mods, Inferno R1 (and to some extent, R1's upcoming replacement SCP) has had the biggest influence on me by far. High chance I wouldn't even be here if not for R1 (or at least, still a lurker). Even newer things like ED have yet to really "draw me away" from Inferno.

Either it's the way the current assets look like (outdated maybe, but I like the uniformity + it matches original FS' feel to me the most), or there's something about its plot bits that I like... or something else, I have no idea. I still wait, even though there's no assurance that a release will come.

Or it's probably because of an old campaign idea in my head that I've been yearning to tell in a mod, but can't, because it uses Inferno elements here and there (though my impatience in waiting is nicely countered by my inability to really code or model anything for in-game use, more time to learn maybe?).

But school equals no free time for side-learning at all... :sigh:
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 17, 2010, 01:10:52 pm
Eh, wha... Ok, here's what I got:

All's fine with Mobius. It's just that he doesn't have time to come online here, for the moment, due to various RL reasons and so on. I'm sure I don't have to explain in detail what those reasons are... Rest assured though, everything's fine here, Inferno is not dead.

And, on a partially related topic: Jeff Vader, I'm pretty sure it's localization issues, or something like that...
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Snail on January 17, 2010, 01:13:43 pm
Eh, wha... Ok, here's what I got:

All's fine with Mobius. It's just that he doesn't have time to come online here, for the moment, due to various RL reasons and so on. I'm sure I don't have to explain in detail what those reasons are... Rest assured though, everything's fine here, Inferno is not dead.
So he just has a very twisted sense of humor? Well, sounds a lot like him. :P
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 17, 2010, 01:16:15 pm
I doubt that...
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 17, 2010, 01:31:12 pm
And, on a partially related topic: Jeff Vader, I'm pretty sure it's localization issues, or something like that...
Yeah, I'm not completely sure of what's going on, but on my end, his Facebook profile lists someone called Sabrina under "Parents", even though I remember him mentioning that Sabrina is his girlfriend's name.

If anyone can see the info ordered in correct places, do tell.

Edit: It says the same thing with English. And Italian (according to Babelfish). **** it.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Droid803 on January 17, 2010, 03:02:35 pm
Maybe he filled the stuff out wrong?
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 17, 2010, 03:21:58 pm
Isn't it a little hard to accidentally fill it in wrong, especially if it is someone he knows very well? Plus, he would probably have noticed that on his own if it was an accident. Also, he has siblings and children listed but none have the same family name. It can't be real or an accident. Too many inaccuracies to be an accident.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 17, 2010, 11:11:41 pm
It's a Facebook thing.  Kids filling out bogus stuff on their profile for the sake of being silly (i.e. putting some of your best friends as your parents and children).  My friends' sisters do it a lot.  The "widowed" thing is likely the same thing.  Don't take it too seriously.  It's just being immature.

He's younger than me.  If he's somehow the widowed father of three by this point...
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 31, 2010, 04:09:41 am
...this person has marked himself as a widow and a father of three.

Edit: It's gotta be him. The MSN address matches.

I remember quite well that Mobius lost his wife at around the same time my dad died.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 31, 2010, 04:14:05 am
...this person has marked himself as a widow and a father of three.

Edit: It's gotta be him. The MSN address matches.

I remember quite well that Mobius lost his wife at around the same time my dad died.
:wtf: The way I understood it, his girlfriend had a miscarriage. I don't remember hearing anything about her dying as well.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 31, 2010, 09:34:33 am
...this person has marked himself as a widow and a father of three.

Edit: It's gotta be him. The MSN address matches.

I remember quite well that Mobius lost his wife at around the same time my dad died.

This is not a topic appropriate for public discussion or debate, particularly if you 'remember quite well' and turn out to be wrong.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: High Max on January 31, 2010, 03:10:39 pm
And it was quite random for it to be brought up again out of the blue after 2 weeks of silence on this thread instead of a day after the previous post :p Why a 2 weeks pause and then a reply to it instead of much sooner? Also, Androgeos Exeunt was probably kidding about the 'remembering quite well' bit. Plus, even if he heard it, there is no way to know just because someone on the net said so unless other evidence matches. Also, it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: For clarification...
Post by: General Battuta on January 31, 2010, 05:43:19 pm
Thread locked.