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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
That's assuming I have a team ready to go for everything that needs to be done.

Like voiceactors for around 40 missions.

 

Offline Admiral Nelson

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
I'd hope you'd release without voice acting.  40 missions of voice acting might take as along as a year, based on FSPort experience....
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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
IIRC, you said that if everyone really pushed, you guys could get it done in a week.
That'd be assuming a team ten times our size that was instantly available, completely capable, and we encountered no problems.  BWO lacks a serious amount of polish that is expected and until its there its not release worthy.
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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
I'd hope you'd release without voice acting.  40 missions of voice acting might take as along as a year, based on FSPort experience....
Its a sensitive issue.  Its not been decided and probably will not be decided until we're closer.
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Offline Admiral Nelson

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
I just want to warn you -- if you are within one year of release, you are "close" from a voice acting perspective...
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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
From my experience voice acting takes ages.

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Then ages it is.

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
If it makes it better. :yes:

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
The campaign is dialogue intensive. Like, really really intensive, we've got a lot of story in there. However, there aren't really any dull moments innit either, you're pretty much required to do stuff all the way throughout, and not just time wasters, but most of the time it's meaningful stuff, and if you're not one to pay attention to two things at once with full concentration it's going to be a choice between paying attention to completing objectives or reading the story, one or the other.

In my opinion, voices are a must for playing, otherwise you'll have to get the order to jump and then press f4 and read back the messages to get a firm grasp on it, which is ****ty. Either that, or you'll be pressing the "restart" button on the mission to play it again and see what was said.

For Ice and Ace, I get why they would want to release without the voices, they've been dealing with BWO far longer than I have, and I can understand them wanting to just finish and be done already, and perhaps leave the voices to the community (like the good job that was done on Derelict).

Personally however, I'd keep it under wraps until all of the voices are finished. I'd want to have directive control over the changes as they occur to the timing after the voices are put in, and make sure it all works as intended, having Ace making the changes himself, since we co-wrote most of the missions. When it's in someone elses hands, you really can't be sure it will be done as intended.

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
That makes sense, but I would strongly suggest starting the scripts as soon as possible. 
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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Yeah, I should have them done by the end of January (I'm doing them regardless of whether we release with or without).

It's been a little tough on the planning because our resident sound man vanished for real this time, and I'm sort of left holding the ball, while the idea at first was we'd do it together. And planning to do this proper is a bit harder than I thought, but still, possible.

 

Offline Goober5000

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
You guys might want to check out the voice acting manager in FRED Open.  It automatically adds filenames to the voice acted lines, and it also exports all lines to a text file in the format you specify.

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Though our sound person left, I'll be taking on the music and sound effects related audio work as well as post-production on recorded lines.
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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
That doesn't mean it is going to be released anytime soon.

 
Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Hi,
Since I've lost my patience reading people's demands on release instead of interesting questions that were supposed to take place here, I'll be brief.
I'm an old timer player and new to these forums as you can see.

What I got to say is simple. I can do some voice acting for you if the recording of my voice is good enough for your standards.

Where do I apply?
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Offline Raven2001

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Dont know if we're looking for any voice actors at the moment, but its worth sending a PM to Icefire or Ace :)
Yeah, I know you were waiting for a very nice sig, in which I was quoting some very famous scientist or philosopher... guess what?!? I wont indulge you...

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
We're not looking yet.

Scripts are almost done though.

 

Offline Goober5000

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
What I got to say is simple. I can do some voice acting for you if the recording of my voice is good enough for your standards.

Where do I apply?
Since BWO isn't ready yet, you could get some practice (and establish a foothold) by posting a sample voice clip in the Voice Acting forum. :)

 

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Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Scratch that, after getting some information from Goob, my stuff looks like it was done by a retard with crayons.

In order to adjust for professionalism, this'll take a bit more time than expected. Perhaps till the midle of Febuary.

 
Re: Things you want to know about BWO but were afraid to ask
Ill go for it.
By the way, you should really release only when you have all the voices done. Polished stuff are much more sucessful, just look at Blizzard's games to see that.
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