[RandomTiger]

I think 4 didnt either, doesnt really matter.
I have to say Im very surprised at the number of DX9 cards.

[Johnmike]

So does the FX 5200 suport DX9 or not?

[Zarax]

www.nvidia.com is the best place where to find the answer

[Johnmike]

Again, the site says it has DX9 support.  But in a previous post it was said that the 5600, a later model, had half-assed DX9 support.

[ChronoReverse]

Actually, technically, the 5600 (and the rest of the FX series) does have full DX9 support.

The problem (and the reason why some people say it doesn't really have full DX9 support) is because of the way nVidia designed the card.  Without code written nicely optimized for nVidia's DX9 shaders, the card slows down quite a bit.

An analogy (not a direct translation of course) is how Bobbaue always tells us to try to use less textures, but larger textures.  It's the packaging that slows down the nVidia cards.

The Radeons don't have this problem.  They also handle AA way better.

The recent driver cheats the nVidia has been employing have largely been removed from the latest driver set.  They've mostly got their on-the-fly optimizer in the driver working and hence the FX series is now reasonably fast.

The 5600 is a PO*.  It's loud, hot and not really that fast =/.  Even with  the updated drivers.

In fact, anythig below 5700 is a piece of junk.  Don't buy them.  Don't even think about buying them.

If you can afford a 5950, you can afford a 9800Pro (or even XT).

The 5700 is actually a very good card for it's price.

The 9600XT/Pro/NP are arguably even better.

[Langy]

I'm a Radeon 9800 Pro here.

Gads, I think this is my first post here in a year or more... Well, back to lurkin':)

[Bobboau]

you've made the corect choice sir!

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Bobboau
you've made the corect choice sir!

i'm thinking of getting a 9800xt

[HellToupee]

im getting a 5900xt, xt being nvs version of atis SE, as soon i sort my fee troubles.

[Bobboau]

you sir have made the wrong choice!
(hint: a FSO graphics coder is telling you this, the guy who implements things and determines which features get used and wich don't)

[Bobboau]

you sir have made the wrong choice!
(hint: a FSO graphics coder is telling you this, the guy who implements things and determines which features get used and wich don't, I know that at least 3 of the 4 major graphics monkeys run 9800s, I'm not sure what Sicks uses)

[Xelion]

I got an Asus Radeon 9600XT, and from what I know I think I have full dx9 support. running 9b atm should have a 3dmark score soon as well.

[Darkage]

My card supports DX9

[RandomTiger]

Originally posted by Bobboau
you sir have made the wrong choice!

Bob please, I didnt start this thread so you could make judgements on peoples card choices. Im sure SCP isnt the only consideration when getting new hardware anyway.

Im sill running a GF4 for the moment, an ATI card seems likely in the future but that doesnt mean the SCP is not going to run on anything else.

[Kazan]

Note to radeon users your radeon model number in format Xyyy is DX Ver X card yyy

So my Radeon 9600 (SE ) = DX 9 card 600


[it's funny how bobboau and I are the big Radeon-whores and how he's doing the GFX and I am doing fundamental engine design....]

[kasperl]

so a 7k would support DX7 hardware at best?

well, could be worse i guess.

[HellToupee]

i dont belive i have made the wrong choice. Games i have x2 the threat, RTCW/ET perform better under NV cards, games like ut2k3 and 4 coming up its about even, Plus ATIs linux support is just crap, i use linux most of the time windows only for games. Then theirs the whole reliablity thing its hard to find a game today with an issue with NV cards. Performance wise the 5900xt is the best performing card in my price range it beats the pants off a 9600xt, only 80$nz more than the 9600xt and 20 than the 5700u.

[Kazan]

*Cough* Bull *Cough*

ATI linux support is superior to nVidia linux support - but obviously you don't know dick about licensing and underlying implementations of the drivers

Not to mention it's a laugh to say a 5900xt beats a 9600xt - and for that $80 more you could get a 9800 and have money left over.

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you ever notice ATI still barely has to put heatsinks on most of their boards and nVidia has to put vacume cleaners on them? If you knew ANYTHING about CprE then you'd understand what that means.

[HellToupee]

no the 9800 is a further 80$ over the 5900xt here, yes and atis support dose suck, theres open source drivers with performace not even close to that of windows, and then theres offical closed source ones from ati that will lock up your machine within a few minutes. Nvidas drivers work and provide performace equal to that of the windows ones.

[Kazan]

only if you look in the wrong place

nVidia = only closed source drivers, not even using the standard pipelines

ATI = older boards have drivers in the DRI project, newer cards had ROCK SOLID drivers.  If your machine was locking up it's because YOU did something wrong.