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Offline Bobboau

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on: June 10, 2004, 12:35:03 am
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Offline Flipside

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Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 12:31:56 pm
Ooooooooh! Downloading now! :)
 

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Reply #2 on: June 10, 2004, 12:36:50 pm
Is it generally faster in-game or only at explosions?
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Reply #3 on: June 10, 2004, 12:39:03 pm
Not explosions, the damage decls effect the Bobboau is working on....

This one doesn't seem to slow down, but I get a funny 'intersecting poly' effect with the decals themselves, which flicker because of it, and it CTD without error after about 2 mins :(

Edit : Hold 2 mins on that, had something turned on that I shouldn't have had :(
 

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Reply #4 on: June 10, 2004, 12:41:46 pm
Oh, enlighten me:
Do I need to download something else in order to make this build work for what it was made for?
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Reply #5 on: June 10, 2004, 12:44:12 pm
I think you need to get hold of the decal images themselves, they were with earlier builds iirc. Other than that, what it does is leave marks on hulls when shots impact with them, making a ship look more beaten up as it gets more damaged.

Still getting the flickering alas, though the CTD doesn't seem to have repeated itself :)
 

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Reply #6 on: June 10, 2004, 12:48:29 pm
Does the most recent MediaVP contain them?
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Reply #7 on: June 10, 2004, 01:10:57 pm
No it doesn't. The MediaVP only has stuff for 3.6.

This and everything in the works right npw are post 3.6.
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Reply #8 on: June 10, 2004, 01:22:40 pm
So I don't have them. I disable particles by default because they disturb me in my aiming.
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Reply #9 on: June 11, 2004, 11:52:07 am
Um... right.

Look for a thread Lightspeed made with the new decal images. But since they are Targa's you will probably have a slowdown.
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Reply #10 on: June 11, 2004, 10:51:53 pm
Ugh, this build keeps crashing for me, things will go smoothly for a while until something gets damaged. Then it will freeze for a few seconds before CTD. :mad:

Bigger impacts still flicker, the small ones caused by fighter guns are okay.

Is there a flag I'm supposed to turn on?

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Reply #11 on: June 20, 2004, 12:19:21 am
Bobb, one of those random thoughs....

Would it be possible to use this same code to place a more permanent, larger damage decal on the hull when a subsystem is destroyed?
 

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Reply #12 on: June 20, 2004, 05:03:20 am
CTD = Crash to Desktop?
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Reply #13 on: June 20, 2004, 05:12:31 am
Generally, yes.
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Reply #14 on: June 20, 2004, 05:16:23 am
Either that or "Crap! Try Debugging".
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Reply #15 on: June 20, 2004, 05:19:36 am
:lol:
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Reply #16 on: June 23, 2004, 04:10:54 am
LOL

I don't know if Bobbaou saw my earlier post, or whether it's such a stupid idea he didn't bother answering, but I'll ask again, cos it would actually be quite cool to have ;)

Basically, would it feasible to have, using the decal code, larger damage decals that are placed on the hull where subsystems/turrets were, once those subsystems/turrets are destroyed? So when a missile launcher blows up, it leaves damage marks on the hull where it was? These would probably need to be more or less permanent, but there shouldn't be more than 10-15 per ship?
 

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Reply #17 on: June 23, 2004, 06:27:11 am
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Originally posted by Flipside
Basically, would it feasible to have, using the decal code, larger damage decals that are placed on the hull where subsystems/turrets were, once those subsystems/turrets are destroyed? So when a missile launcher blows up, it leaves damage marks on the hull where it was? These would probably need to be more or less permanent, but there shouldn't be more than 10-15 per ship?


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Reply #18 on: June 23, 2004, 06:50:07 am
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Originally posted by Flipside
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Basically, would it feasible to have, using the decal code, larger damage decals that are placed on the hull where subsystems/turrets were, once those subsystems/turrets are destroyed? So when a missile launcher blows up, it leaves damage marks on the hull where it was? These would probably need to be more or less permanent, but there shouldn't be more than 10-15 per ship?


Would make FS2's damage model more realistic, but it would cause a serious slowdown on slower machines.
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Reply #19 on: June 23, 2004, 08:47:34 am
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Sick of making damage models? :D


LOL Yep ;)

Seriously though, damage models are ok for larger subsystems, but I think most turrets just vanish when you destroy them, since Geomodding is not an option, I thought this might help to add to the effect of damage ;)

TopAce, I wouldn't really have thought there would be that many destroyed subsystems in game at one time?
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