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Offline Aardwolf

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"Fatal" Warning Message
Warning messages, in fullscreen mode (and probably error messages as well) come up behind  FS2. So the screen goes black, and the cursor changes, but the dialog box isn't visible. There's no way to see where the buttons are, except maybe based on what the cursor looks like. Alt-tabbing is useless, because the dialog box is treated as part of the FS2 window; it activates a different window (but not the warning window), but the screen remains black except for the cursor. The only real way to proceed is by memorizing the keyboard hotkeys, or more often, pressing 'Esc' until FS2 quits. So what might have been a trivial warning forces the user to quit the program. And Istill have no idea what it said until I go into the error logfile.

Although the issue can be avoided by running in a window (but not a fullscreen window), that's really not an acceptable solution, especially considering that you'll still have no idea what the particular message you missed said.

Zacam on IRC seemed to think this doesn't matter...

 

Offline Dragon

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
Try the key between left control and alt (I forgot how it's called).
It should make start menu pop up and let you see the warning.
At least, that's how does it worked for me in other games, I didn't need that in FS.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
Try the key between left control and alt (I forgot how it's called).
Windows key?

Warning messages, in fullscreen mode (and probably error messages as well) come up behind  FS2. So the screen goes black, and the cursor changes, but the dialog box isn't visible. There's no way to see where the buttons are, except maybe based on what the cursor looks like. Alt-tabbing is useless, because the dialog box is treated as part of the FS2 window; it activates a different window (but not the warning window), but the screen remains black except for the cursor. The only real way to proceed is by memorizing the keyboard hotkeys, or more often, pressing 'Esc' until FS2 quits. So what might have been a trivial warning forces the user to quit the program. And Istill have no idea what it said until I go into the error logfile.

Although the issue can be avoided by running in a window (but not a fullscreen window), that's really not an acceptable solution, especially considering that you'll still have no idea what the particular message you missed said.
What variety of error messages could a player get? I've only stumbled into firewall popups asking about what to do with the FSO executable. Adding an exception for it into the firewall's rules solves it.
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23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

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Offline Aardwolf

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
Nonono, I mean FS2's error dialog. Y'know, the one that pops up when FS2 has an error. Or a warning.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
Ah.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Zacam

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
It doesn't because the way to run a Debug build is usually in windowed mode. (Necessary for Devs, as then being able to actually run and see the Debugger is important, and you can't do that if FSO is trying to fullscreen)

Some systems don't manage to be able to bring up the background Warning error dialogues. The problem would be if they didn't happen and or caused your system to crash when they happened.
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Offline utops

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Re: "Fatal" Warning Message
When this happens to me i make call for windows task manager(alt+ctrl+delete) and alt tab to it to assume control over the desktop ,after this i can see output of the error pop-up window.
What if ?