[Akalabeth Angel]

Oh jesus god, of course I don't get it.

Your first post said that the ST:R devs would be wusses if they didn't make "Bosch as Alpha 1" (to quote you exactly), then you said that no one would actually tell you that Alpha 1 is Bosch, but that you would still be playing as Bosch.

     Hey, give yourself a prize! Way to misquote me buddy:
     1st post: "Bosch as Alpha 1 = Interesting"
     2nd post: "I'm not saying they should have "Ensign Bosch, welcome" in the briefings. Just that, you can create the story, and the missions with the idea that the anonymous Alpha 1 is in fact bosch"

     You misunderstood my first post, so I clarified. But you take that clarification, as a new answer. Then I continue to clarify, what I mean, all the time you still don't get it. So really, who cares if you don't get it. Because I get it. And I'm someone else does too.

And then you said that they should do it because "it's hard andchallenging and because it's fun", even though the first part doesn't apply to you because you're not a dev, and the rest of the post just described how it would make the Devs be better Devs and it would make Bosch seem like a cooler character (ignoring the fact that there are better ways of doing it).

    Oh right, I'm not a Dev, that's why I released a 10 mission campaign by myself. Because I'm not a Dev.

Then in your next post, you proceed to describe Bosch as someone who hates Vasudans (while Monologue #2 strongly suggests that he doesn't actually hate the Vasudans), you mocked both the Dev's skill and my intelligence while simultaneously contradicting your previous paragraph and making an incomplete analogy.

    Um, read my post again? Did I say Bosch? No, I said "some NTF ship Captain" (I even gave him a differnet naem, Captain Bollox!). As in, someone who is a captain (NOT AN ADMIRAL) in the NTF, other than Bosch. If I meant to say Bosch, I would have said Bosch. It's an analogy. And it's not incomplete. Here's a hypoethical character in the NTF movement who is in the NTF because he hates teh Vasudans (like all of other Bosch's lackeys). Then we have two hypothetical campaigns, one in which the anonymous Alpha 1 is given a reason to hate vasudans and one in which Alpha 1 is given no reason to hate vasudans. Play the first one, and you can be that NTF captain. Because there are signs and events in the campaign to potentially shape Alpha 1's ideas. Play the second one, and you can pretend you're that NTF captain, but no matter how  hard you try, you'll be deluding yourself because the campaign has no events to make support your theory.

     And if that's not clear enough, then I don't give a damn.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Or here's an even more clear cut explanation:

         Why do "Devs" or campaign makers, add Easter Eggs to their campaign? Aren't they a complete and utter waste of time?

         An anonymous Alpha 1, intended to represent Bosch, would basically be ONE BIG EASTER EGG.

[Mars]

By implying that ST:R would be boring if Alpha 1 wasn't Bosch you're implying that ST:R will suck if it isn't exactly what you want it to be.

It's their campaign.

I think it would be extremely intriguing if Bosch was the captain of the Orff, or some other cameo that made some semblance of sense. I don't think it should be limited to just the player as a possible Bosch.

[Akalabeth Angel]

By implying that ST:R would be boring if Alpha 1 wasn't Bosch you're implying that ST:R will suck if it isn't exactly what you want it to be.

It's their campaign.

         I didn't say "boring campaign" I said "boring", as in the choice. Making Alpha 1 yet another anonymous guy with no real links to anything is a safe, boring choice imo.  Doesn't mean the campaign will be boring, just that the "safe and easy" choice is boring. It doesn't push the boundaries.

        Take for example the new Hades. Now, a lot of models are thankfully being converted HTL, and a lot of new HTL-quality models are being produced. This is great, everyone loves them, etcetera. But take the new Hades, VA or whoever built the thing could have sat down and said "I'm going to make the Hades HTL, it'll be 8-10K polygons as is the norm for the SCP". And if he had done that, it probably would've been a great model, people would have loved it, but it's still a little boring because though it's great, it's also safe choice. Instead, VA decided something to the effect of "I'm going to go freaking crazy on this thing, to really give this ship the treatment it deserves, and make it 80k polies!" and then wow, look at the model. It may not run on a lot of people's comps, but it's pushing the boundaries. It's not a safe boring choice, because it's one that is obviously a lot more work, and also has the potential to receive criticism by those with lower end machines (or people who just think that 80k is crazy)

       I've got no problems ripping into a campaign, but I never pass judgement on them until I've played the damn things.
       And as a matter of fact, I didn't say that if Alpha 1 wasn't Bosch it would be boring. I said if Bosch was in the campaign, but not Alpha 1 it would be boring. Since people were suggesting he be the captain of a ship, etcetera, which btw is completely non-canon since Bosch was a pilot not a ship captain or helmsmen. Well wait, I take that back to a degree. If Bosch was represented as a Snipes type character, then maybe it would be wicked cool because Snipes is one of the best-loved characters of FS2. And is one of the few ways to get real humanity out of the pilots, which is otherwise not present. That actually might be cooler than having Alpha 1 as Bosch. I mean, both choices are cool, but the former (Snipes-style) needs a REALLY GOOD (amateur) voice actor to be Bosch or everyone's going to be rather unimpressed.

[Mars]

Bosch never said he was a pilot.

[Snail]

Bosch never said he was a pilot.

Unless the Wiki transcripts have been tampered with, he did.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Bosch never said he was a pilot.

At 0:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4BsSuphCHk

[Mars]

Oh, lol... maybe he did

[Colonol Dekker]

Here's something for you....

How long was the NTF rebellion going for, because he also says at the start of that vid -  "vindicate everything i've been fighting for the past thirty years"
I don't remember the NTF going for that long. So . . . . . . What was he fighting and who?

[terran_emperor]

Well, ive always thought that bosch was FS Alpha-1. It made sense to me because i first played FS1 and ST after playing FS2. It still makes sense to me.

[Mobius]

Maybe Bosch was one of Alpha 1's wingmen in ST...

[Jeff Vader]

Maybe Bosch was one of Alpha 1's wingmen in ST...

You mean one of those who died every time in every possible scenario? Could be.

[Snail]

How long was the NTF rebellion going for, because he also says at the start of that vid -  "vindicate everything i've been fighting for the past thirty years"
I don't remember the NTF going for that long. So . . . . . . What was he fighting and who?

Specifically stated as 18 months.

Probably fighting against the GTVI in like a secret political conspiracy type thing, where he was trying to uncover the facts while the CIA GTVI were trying to stop him.

[terran_emperor]

@Dekker...

So, Bosch is a cross between Mulder and Cigarette-Smoking Man? Hmm...that makes him an even better character

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Maybe Bosch was one of Alpha 1's wingmen in ST...

You mean one of those who died every time in every possible scenario? Could be.

It would certainly explain why he's so hard to kill in FS2...He's like a Cylon from the New Battlestar Galactica...He dies and downloads into a new body.

  Bosch is the final member of the "Final Five" Human-Cylon Models 

[Mobius]

Maybe Bosch was one of Alpha 1's wingmen in ST...

You mean one of those who died every time in every possible scenario? Could be.

Speaking of the game, yes. Speaking of the Universe, no....they're meant to survive, or each squadron should be disbanded after one or two sorties.

Specifically stated as 18 months.

Probably fighting against the GTVI in like a secret political conspiracy type thing, where he was trying to uncover the facts while the CIA GTVI were trying to stop him.

Admirals have their importance in the GTVA. There are some who share the Assembly or Security Council's opinions and there are some who don't. Bosch had his own opinions and used the influence earned in about third decades to start a rebellion.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Here's something for you....

How long was the NTF rebellion going for, because he also says at the start of that vid -  "vindicate everything i've been fighting for the past thirty years"
I don't remember the NTF going for that long. So . . . . . . What was he fighting and who?

        Not every battle is fought with a gun.

[Snail]

That was what I was trying to say, but I failed.

[terran_emperor]

The Arts of Diplomacy and Bureaucracy are forms warfare in their own right

[Droid803]

Yeah. "fought against" could also mean "tried to accomplish" as well.

[Polpolion]

Oh jesus god, of course I don't get it.

Your first post said that the ST:R devs would be wusses if they didn't make "Bosch as Alpha 1" (to quote you exactly), then you said that no one would actually tell you that Alpha 1 is Bosch, but that you would still be playing as Bosch.

     Hey, give yourself a prize! Way to misquote me buddy:
     1st post: "Bosch as Alpha 1 = Interesting"
     2nd post: "I'm not saying they should have "Ensign Bosch, welcome" in the briefings. Just that, you can create the story, and the missions with the idea that the anonymous Alpha 1 is in fact bosch"

     You misunderstood my first post, so I clarified. But you take that clarification, as a new answer. Then I continue to clarify, what I mean, all the time you still don't get it. So really, who cares if you don't get it. Because I get it. And I'm someone else does too.

And then you said that they should do it because "it's hard andchallenging and because it's fun", even though the first part doesn't apply to you because you're not a dev, and the rest of the post just described how it would make the Devs be better Devs and it would make Bosch seem like a cooler character (ignoring the fact that there are better ways of doing it).

    Oh right, I'm not a Dev, that's why I released a 10 mission campaign by myself. Because I'm not a Dev.

Then in your next post, you proceed to describe Bosch as someone who hates Vasudans (while Monologue #2 strongly suggests that he doesn't actually hate the Vasudans), you mocked both the Dev's skill and my intelligence while simultaneously contradicting your previous paragraph and making an incomplete analogy.

    Um, read my post again? Did I say Bosch? No, I said "some NTF ship Captain" (I even gave him a differnet naem, Captain Bollox!). As in, someone who is a captain (NOT AN ADMIRAL) in the NTF, other than Bosch. If I meant to say Bosch, I would have said Bosch. It's an analogy. And it's not incomplete. Here's a hypoethical character in the NTF movement who is in the NTF because he hates teh Vasudans (like all of other Bosch's lackeys). Then we have two hypothetical campaigns, one in which the anonymous Alpha 1 is given a reason to hate vasudans and one in which Alpha 1 is given no reason to hate vasudans. Play the first one, and you can be that NTF captain. Because there are signs and events in the campaign to potentially shape Alpha 1's ideas. Play the second one, and you can pretend you're that NTF captain, but no matter how  hard you try, you'll be deluding yourself because the campaign has no events to make support your theory.

     And if that's not clear enough, then I don't give a damn.

Congratulations. You've succeded in blaming your lack of clarity on me. I hope you're happy, because you've just won this argument on the basis that you can't effectively communicate.