[eliex]

True.

[Blue Lion]

To me, making sure the nodes collapse would be their finest hour. It would hypothetically be the means of saving humanity.

Almost the entire war was one giant ass kicking. Every time they would blow up a ship they would see more, bigger ships behind it.

[Ghostavo]

I've always thought it was the Colossus' finest hour. Sacrificing itself to allow the Bastion safe passage to... sacrifice itself. It all makes sense, somehow.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I've always thought it was the Colossus' finest hour. Sacrificing itself to allow the Bastion safe passage to... sacrifice itself. It all makes sense, somehow.

So did I, but some people think that it's the Shivans' finest hour because they destroyed the GTVA's greatest fleet asset.

[Blue Lion]

It's not really my finest hour when I knock over the biggest 6th grader.

They had more than enough firepower to drop it.

[SpardaSon21]

I always thought it referred to the crew of the Colossus, and them buying time to seal the nodes and save the GTVA from another Shivan incursion.

[High Max]

;-)

[Grogs]

But I said they don't need more than one nebula for fuel and I said they may get most of their energy from subspace. I never said they get "all" their energy from subspace. Did you miss that part? They could also use gas giants like the GTVA does, though they may have had gas miners there since it was convenient for their destination. I'm sure their exploding of Capella is more than just to make fuel. That would be a lame story if that was the sole purpose.

In World War II, two of the best commanders were in Africa because they needed the oil in the area...Fuel, food and water is an important part of any war machine...

and maybe the "bigger" problem is that the universe is running out of fuel, and the side effect is the shivans blowing stuff up to get more fuel (for one reason or another they need it)...sounds like an idea for a campaign...

[Blue Lion]

That would make a great political satire campaign

[wistler]

That would make a great political satire campaign

Sounds like a chance to fuse Dr. Strangelove and the Shivans. But in a way that sounds less painfull 

[Blue Lion]

Mein Admiral, I can jump!

[TrashMan]

Methinks their finest hour refers to the GTVA effort to stall..altough the way it is carried out (Colossuss) leaves a lot to be desired.

[Gibbusflame]

This is going two ways:

• 1. For the Terrans, their finest hour was sacrificing themselves to get the Bastion through to the jump node safely.
• 2. For the Shivans, they've decimated the Colossus. And possibly, been happy about the Terrans collapsing the jump node (Shivan Manifesto theory)

But I said they don't need more than one nebula for fuel and I said they may get most of their energy from subspace. I never said they get "all" their energy from subspace. Did you miss that part? They could also use gas giants like the GTVA does, though they may have had gas miners there since it was convenient for their destination. I'm sure their exploding of Capella is more than just to make fuel. That would be a lame story if that was the sole purpose.

Who knows? Maybe they did make it go supernova for fuel sources.
Another theory on this is, of course (sigh), the Shivan Manifesto theory. They used the gravitational field from the collapsing sun to create a giant portal to another system (Universe maybe? Whatever physics would be involved).

[Killer Whale]

Maybe another galaxy.

[darkdaej]

My theory on why the Capella Star blew up is this:

The Shivans, having spent nearly three days pumping some kind of subspace field around the star, were powering up a weapon as Petrarch suggested.  It could have been many things, but I believe the Shivans were simply sick and tired of interference by the GTVA.  This subspace field rippling from the star could have been anything, and I do not have suggestions as to what its intent was, but it surely didn't mean good times for the GTVA .  I surmise the Capella Incident was a calculation error on the part of the Shivans, because of the destruction of the Epsilon Pegasi node minutes before.  Had the node not been collapsed by the Bastion, it is very possible - as the Shivans were playing around with subspace around that star - that their plan  would have worked, and the consequences might have been much more catastrophic.

I mean...why the hell would the Shivans have been so persistent in taking out the Bastion otherwise?  Yeah it's a Terran destroyer with escort, but it was escaping the main battle, so it shouldn't have drawn that much attention, but even with the Colossus fighting at the Gamma Drac node, to quote Petrarch "the battle group protecting the Bastion has been decimated"  The Shivans most likely knew that the Bastion carried Meson warheads and deducted they wanted to repeat history by destoying a large ship inside a node to collapse it, therefore ruining their own plans and risking failure of whatever they were doing with Capella.

The Outro shows the Shivan juggernaughts closing in on the star and creating some weird subspace field, which might have been simply to DELAY the unintended destruction of Capella while most of them fled to God knows where.

At least that's what I think.

[General Battuta]

My theory on why the Capella Star blew up is this:

The Shivans, having spent nearly three days pumping some kind of subspace field around the star, were powering up a weapon as Petrarch suggested.  It could have been many things, but I believe the Shivans were simply sick and tired of interference by the GTVA.  This subspace field rippling from the star could have been anything, and I do not have suggestions as to what its intent was, but it surely didn't mean good times for the GTVA .  I surmise the Capella Incident was a calculation error on the part of the Shivans, because of the destruction of the Epsilon Pegasi node minutes before.  Had the node not been collapsed by the Bastion, it is very possible - as the Shivans were playing around with subspace around that star - that their plan  would have worked, and the consequences might have been much more catastrophic.

I mean...why the hell would the Shivans have been so persistent in taking out the Bastion otherwise?  Yeah it's a Terran destroyer with escort, but it was escaping the main battle, so it shouldn't have drawn that much attention, but even with the Colossus fighting at the Gamma Drac node, to quote Petrarch "the battle group protecting the Bastion has been decimated"  The Shivans most likely knew that the Bastion carried Meson warheads and deducted they wanted to repeat history by destoying a large ship inside a node to collapse it, therefore ruining their own plans and risking failure of whatever they were doing with Capella.

The Outro shows the Shivan juggernaughts closing in on the star and creating some weird subspace field, which might have been simply to DELAY the unintended destruction of Capella while most of them fled to God knows where.

At least that's what I think.

If they were so intent on destroying the Bastion, they would've sortied a Ravana or Sathanas to chew through it.

[darkdaej]

If they were so intent on destroying the Bastion, they would've sortied a Ravana or Sathanas to chew through it.

Who says they haven't?(sortied a ravana, at least, maybe not a sath...)  All the 70th blue lions saw of this funfest was the last 10 minutes.  It's highly probable the Bastion's escort consisted of a bunch of Deimos, maybe sobeks, etc.  All that was left of a "decimated" force was THREE aeolus cruisers, which is indicative on one hell of a large fleet protecting the bastion that got wasted prior to the arrival of the Blue Lions.

Also the shivans might have had logistics issues after taking out the Colossus.  It's highly probable the Sath that destroyed it was unable to jump out yet and could not take out the bastion, and other forces were busy elsewhere (especially around the star...).  We do not know simply because we lack facts, but given that the bastion fleet was annihilated I believe a serious assault with capships ended not long before the Blue Lions show up.