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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Fate of the Galaxy => Topic started by: bobbtmann on April 08, 2010, 12:15:57 pm
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I noticed it was on the list. Dibs?
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Sure. How'd that last model come out? We ever get it to start conversion?
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I'll e-mail it to you right now. Its got debris and lods, but no normal map. I just got a computer with a graphics card, so I'll be able to make normal maps for the Carrack and the Unknown Freighter. Once I figure it out.
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Nice! I much prefer these exotic OT background ships to the derivative EU stuff.
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Be sure to read HerraTohtori's texturing guide (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=64769.0) then. It's for GIMP but you can translate it to the editing app of your choice, but only PS and Gimp are really capable of doing a decent enough job. Maybe Paint.NET or PSP.
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Heh I think that thing was kit bashed out of a P-38 engine strut. Those intake deals halfway up the hull are dead on for a Lighting.
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Honestly, it looks like a penis.
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i was about to say flying cock, but yeah. i agree.
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Shades of four years ago? :p
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Honestly, it looks like a penis.
Your cock has a bulbous end and heat vents at the sides?! **** man you better get that checked.
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Honestly, it looks like a penis.
Your cock has a bulbous end and heat vents at the sides?! **** man you better get that checked.
:lol:
teh win
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The heat vents make it go fast (http://funroll-loops.info/poser.jpg) duh
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So where's this blobular thingamajig from? One of the games? Background doohickey from one of the prequel movies? Or what?
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Battle of Endor (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Braha'tok-class_gunship)
Take a gander at the orthos, you can see that it might be a P-38 engine.
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No doubt about it. Those are backwards... oil coolers, I believe?
Kitbashes are neat. :nod:
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It's also visible in the background in Sullust. Or at least I think it's the same ship.
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I don't know if it's phallic or not, but it does look like a giant sperm, especially from that angle.
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Does anyone have any good shots of the back of this ship? All the ones that are online are found in wookieepedia.
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(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060514211939/starwars/images/f/f6/Rj_bgship1.png)
That image from wookiepedia is probably the best reference there is.
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I was wondering if there are angles, maybe at the battle of Endor, where we can see its engine arrangement.
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Looks like it has 4 engines mounted (2 each side) out away from the hull in the top and bottom pics but then there is no sign of them in the middle pic.
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There are only two of those boxes, and they're both on the top. You can see them in the side profile as two slender squares rising above the profile. My guess is that the engine(s) is underneath the ship where there's an opening.
Here's an update, with a fighter for size comparison. It's not very big, but it has a lot of weapons for its size. Eight laser turrets and eight missile launchers. I guess it's the rebel equivalent to the Lancer.
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Is that a cloakshape I spot?
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Yeah. Last weekend I was studying for a final exam and got bored. Needless to say, I don't think I did too well on my exam.
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Can you add an original Cloakshape to this mod? :P
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An update:
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Well it looks a little less phallic now :)
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It's also visible in the background in Sullust. Or at least I think it's the same ship.
The Braha'tok gunship was for many years known just as the "Y-head corvette".
It can actually be seen in that scene at Sullust, but it's not the the one you think, but this one:
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/laserdisk/sw6/h1side03.jpg)
(upper right part of the image, above the small engine of Home One)
As for the model, I like what I see :yes:
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It looks like the whole back end is an engine. Thanks for the pic, Col. Fishguts.
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And what's below it? Frankly, I don't recognize it.
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One of the Home One's engines from the looks of it.
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It's not covered in armour, so it looks seperate from the rest of Home One.
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Yeah Home One is huge and has a great variety of engines. Here's the gunship's appearances, for anyone who hasn't already watched this video obsessively:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGMvadAFqLQ
0:07 & 2:25
...news flash at 2:02
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Here are two more reference pics I found on my backup HDD.
On the second pic it can bee seen head on in front of the 2nd Death Star.
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Here's an udate. Its occured to me that there isn't really any room to put turrets on this thing.
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Here's an udate. Its occured to me that there isn't really any room to put turrets on this thing.
Great job on these updates! I love seeing updates on this site that isn't people arguing about steam!
Well...if we ignore the recently made-up EU stuff about this ship, what could it be for? ECM or AWACS? The dishes on the sides could certainly lend themselves to that, and the stuff sticking out above the dishes could easily be some sort of antennae array.
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Great job on these updates! I love seeing updates on this site that isn't people arguing about steam!
Steam sucks lol. :P
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Make the turrets small? :nervous:
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It's a gunship. It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
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If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
I lol'd.
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It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
YEAH! That's how we do it in MY neighborhood, *****!
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It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
YEAH! That's how we do it in MY neighborhood, *****!
its how lucas would do it
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It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
YEAH! That's how we do it in MY neighborhood, *****!
its how lucas would do it
Which is precisely WHY we shouldn't.
Besides, who says it has to be a gunship. Anyone in the movies ever call it a gunship?
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Revered Lucas or bat**** crazy Lucas? Cause that matters, you know.
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It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
YEAH! That's how we do it in MY neighborhood, *****!
its how lucas would do it
Which is precisely WHY we shouldn't.
Besides, who says it has to be a gunship. Anyone in the movies ever call it a gunship?
Its never mentioned in the movies. It's just there.
However, having an unarmed ship is kind of lame, no? Why would the rebels send an unarmed ship to Endor?
Wait...they sent a whole bunch of Gallofrees...
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Those have a few turbolasers or two on them though, right?
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I think the explanation was that they were used as fire ships.
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Wazzat mean?
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It has to have guns. If there is no room for turrets you'll just have to add a lot of windows for R2-pack to roll down and fire out of.
YEAH! That's how we do it in MY neighborhood, *****!
its how lucas would do it
Which is precisely WHY we shouldn't.
Besides, who says it has to be a gunship. Anyone in the movies ever call it a gunship?
Its never mentioned in the movies. It's just there.
However, having an unarmed ship is kind of lame, no? Why would the rebels send an unarmed ship to Endor?
Wait...they sent a whole bunch of Gallofrees...
Hmm...fire ships...I dunno...
Anyways, I still think AWACS is a perfectly reasonable role for an unarmed ship that would be sent with a large fleet into a combat zone. And with the (proportionally) large sensor dishes on this thing, it at least fits visually.
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Ah but are they actually sensor dishes...
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080401171139/starwars/images/9/9d/Atgarptower.jpg)
I wonder? :P
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Wazzat mean?
Fire ships were cheap old crappy boats packed with flammable stuff, lit on fire, and steered into the enemies' (presumably more valuable) ships. In SW they would likely be packed with explosives and slaved to another ship to avoid the whole suicide mission aspect.
As for the turret placement, I bet you could get a couple compact external turrets into the heavily greebled areas on top and bottom without killing the ship's lines. You could also have more internalized turrets in those intake bubble things, like waist gunners on a WWII bomber, and maybe a couple facing directly forward (on either side of the bridge?) and back (between the engine outlets?). Looking great btw.
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The forward-sticking bits on top of the main rear greebling would probably work as a main-gun-type turret (the ones sticking forward through the wide-flat-thingey...)
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The forward-sticking bits on top of the main rear greebling would probably work as a main-gun-type turret (the ones sticking forward through the wide-flat-thingey...)
Right. I'll look into that.... :)
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Just wasting some time. Its crazy that two of these little guys took down a Carrack in the Battle of Endor.
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That hugeass window always makes Carracks look smaller than they really should be.
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The Braha'tok is sooo big. ;)
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Haven't made any turrets here, either... suggestions?
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Looks cool to me, though I admit I've sort of forgotten where they could end up going. I think I prefer the top option--looks a bit more turbolaserish, but still a unique design.
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Done UV mapping!
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Looking great, can't wait to see it textured!
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Tight!
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Very nice looking! I still think it would've been cool to have it just be a kind of AWACS ship, but I can't complain too much when you have it turn out that slick.
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Very nice looking! I still think it would've been cool to have it just be a kind of AWACS ship, but I can't complain too much when you have it turn out that slick.
It's got enough nondescript...stuff...that it could probably still serve in that role. We'll see what we can get out of it. Very nice indeed.
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It doesn' have as many turrets as Wookieepedia thinks it should. It has a double turbolaser/missile turret on the top and bottom, a double turbolaser turret on each side, and six missile launcher turrets (possible only two).
So depending on what kind of weapons are mounted on the turrets it could have a lot of firepower or very little, without looking absurd. It could look like a decently armed scout ship (not too many weapons), or a anti-fighter gunship with a decent number of powerful weapons (not too few). If it is an antifighter gunship it'll need a turbolaseer with a fast rate of fire, though.
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I had a bit of a different idea in my mind's eye about the Braha'tok personally. As it is rated a "gunship" I associated that with gunboats from the age of sail: Small short ranged boats with great maneuverability which were very fragile but loaded with only a few very large guns. They were mostly used in defensive roles, not being suited to long sea voyages, or by a desperate force that had little choice but to take a small vessel and put the biggest guns they could fit on it.
With this interpretation, I kind of thought of the Braha'tok as a similar vessel for the rebels. A small, relatively fragile ship that is significantly overgunned for her size, her purpose not being to hold the line, but rather to inflict as much damage on the enemy as possible in the shortest time possible. I think it would fit into the rebel fleet better that way, with their fighter defense being handled mostly by their individually superior shielded fighters. If this were the case, the Braha'tok would be a ship fitting in with the rebel acceptance that they couldn't challenge the imperial fleet in a stand up fight, but the ship would instead be used to, in a way, take as many of the Imps down with them as possible, or perhaps even take on a ship larger than itself with a few lucky shots in the opening volleys. This would also fit in somewhat with the way the Dornean Navy (the creators of the Braha'tok) has been portrayed in the novels. A notable quote which may support this:
A'baht: "Whatever waits for us, whether princess or dragon, we are called to embrace it. I am mindful of a Dornean war prayer I heard my own mother offer—'I pray that my son does not die today. But if he should die, I pray that he dies well. But most of all, I pray that if he lives, it will not be dishonor which preserves him.'"
Anyways, that's just my interpretation. Feel free to do with it what you will.
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That should be okay then. The four gun turrets are pretty big, and it carries eight missile turrets. All the turrets save two missile launchers can fire directly to the front, so it has a pretty impressive forward firing arc. Good for hit and runs.
There are going to be different types of turbolasers, right? All with varying recycle rates and firepower. For instance, you wouldn't give a marauder corvette the same type off gun as the star destroyer since one is much older than the other. If you gave the braha'tok the turbolasers that star destroyers have, then it'll be pretty strong. Four double turbolasers, at that.
The Braha'tok is supposed to have turbolasers, so I'm assuming they're of the variant that can easily track fighters.
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Now I want to see a Braha'tok 'save the day', jumping in and immediately dumping fire on a bigger Imp ship that's about to waste a Vette or the like.
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Well I don't believe it'll have the same kind of turbos as the ISD, considering the ISD's turbolasers are almost as long as the braha'tok itself, but they'd still be very powerful for a ship of that size.
And chief: ditto
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Those are some big guns. I just modelled the turrets on the Dreadnaught, and they're only ten metres long.
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IIRC the ISD II's are roughly 70m long, the ISD I's are slightly larger.
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This one is done as well!
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nice, but it could use some more colour, IMO
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Yes, it is quite drab. Ingame it doesn't look too bad. Maybe the new paint scheme for the dreadnaught will make up for this one's drabbyness.
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As long as it looks like the movie version in-game that's all that counts :) That ship also had a very bright white thruster glow in its first appearance, so it won't be only shades of brown in-game.
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Considering that we'll be getting a _much_ better look at it in game than we ever did in the movies, I think we could try to add a little more detail than was immediately apparent :P
I don't mind the color, but it seems like the whole of the ship was painted over, with no masking any sort of special areas. It's those little special areas all over that give the ship its character though. Solid drab colors make a good foundation and help the lighting, but it needs that little 10% of its detail to get 90% of its life.
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Hey, what happpened to the pics? Why are the attachments deleted? Lack of activity? :confused:
Yeah, sorry for bumping an old post, but I think this is a good reason.
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Pics attached to the forum get automatically deleted after a while. This is why I use services like tinypic instead to avoid old threads getting mutilated.
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All attachments get purged, not just pics, unfortunately. Better to use one of the more long-term hosting solutions if you want something to stick around. I think I managed to save some of the pics, but getting them posted again would be nice. I didn't seem to get them on the FTP.
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The most up to date image is at www.robertbmann.com
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Wow, that is very good! I envy your skill.