That doesn't matter. He still needs the newer fred if he's going to be using any of the new SEXP's, the #2 reason (after spec) that FSO is supposed to be so much of an improvement. Technically, you should have a set of PCX files around for any tga (non-glow, non-spec), jpg, or dds files simply to allow FSO to run without any flags should you need it to, but that's another discussion for another day. If you can't help him resolve his mission difficulties (and if it requires that he learn Fred_Open then, by God, he needs to learn on Fred_Open) then don't comment in the threads.