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Offline Aardwolf

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D'oh, I didn't realize the server wouldn't have updated already :\

 

Offline deathfun

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That's a damn long list of additions and improvements, getting members of the bukkit team involved looks to have been a great idea, anyone tested yet?

Didn't play around with it for long, but running around in rainbow leather armour is somewhat hilarious
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D'oh, I didn't realize the server wouldn't have updated already :\

Ya... For the record, we have to wait for Bukkit  to update, then the plugins to update, then wait for bukkit to update to fix the bugs the first bukkit update made, then players can update and still join the server.
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There were one or two times in the past when said cycle of updates completed only a month or so before the next version started the whole mess over again. :p

 

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There were one or two times in the past when said cycle of updates completed only a month or so before the next version started the whole mess over again. :p
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That's right, I thought there might have been one that was ridiculously quick.  If/when they ever get this modding API figured out, maybe those days will be just happy memories.

 

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Didn't Mojang hire some of the Bukkit guys?

 

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Yep, most of the original creators, I think.  They're the ones working on the modding API, at least theoretically.

 

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Didn't Mojang hire some of the Bukkit guys?
Yep, most of the original creators, I think.  They're the ones working on the modding API, at least theoretically.
Yes, they hired four of the main bukkit coders.

Of those four, only one is still involved with Bukkit as it was his project to begin with (EvilSeph).  Seph appears to be the one leading the API work.

Dinnerbone is another, and he's actively involved in working on all aspects of Minecraft.

That being said, bukkit is still a separate project, has to be a separate project as it's open source, and still has to do the same procedure each time there is a new release (for legal reasons):  Get the new binary, reverse compile obfuscated source code, make it work, then add in their hooks.

The snapshots was probably one of the first things that they implemented upon being hired.
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Just so's you know Firespawn, I've crossbred up some Hops on Peci's server, still not got many, but once I get more seeds, we should have a plentiful supply :)

 

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Just so's you know Firespawn, I've crossbred up some Hops on Peci's server, still not got many, but once I get more seeds, we should have a plentiful supply :)

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So FYI I just completed a ~1.5km cobblestone sky path from my island to the nearest village so I can bring over a couple of villagers. It goes completely over the ocean, so it shouldn't disturb anybody's builds. I'll remove it when I'm done with it.

Of course, after completing the pathway, I calculated I'd need ~8 full stacks of iron to craft enough rails to get there, and then realized that I have a zombie spawner directly beneath my place that will probably spawn zombie villagers once the server updates to 1.4... so... how close are we? I saw bukkit released something 1.4-related...
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Heh, I think the rail line to a village on my one SP map is about that long, though I saved on at least some rail costs by raiding some huge underground mineshafts.  I'm still not sure why I thought building a line over ocean to a village half as far away would somehow be more difficult. :p

 

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Heh, I think the rail line to a village on my one SP map is about that long, though I saved on at least some rail costs by raiding some huge underground mineshafts.  I'm still not sure why I thought building a line over ocean to a village half as far away would somehow be more difficult. :p

As long as you have the materials for the path, it's easier... you don't have to worry about getting mobbed at night, about routing around obstacles, and even if you fall off, you won't die no matter how high you are (and getting back up is somewhat easy if you have ender pearls).
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline KyadCK

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So FYI I just completed a ~1.5km cobblestone sky path from my island to the nearest village so I can bring over a couple of villagers. It goes completely over the ocean, so it shouldn't disturb anybody's builds. I'll remove it when I'm done with it.

Of course, after completing the pathway, I calculated I'd need ~8 full stacks of iron to craft enough rails to get there, and then realized that I have a zombie spawner directly beneath my place that will probably spawn zombie villagers once the server updates to 1.4... so... how close are we? I saw bukkit released something 1.4-related...

*facepalm* you can jack villagers (and mobs) using RuneCraft, getting spawn eggs in the process.

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Runecraft/Meta#Ovicaptor
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*facepalm* you can jack villagers (and mobs) using RuneCraft, getting spawn eggs in the process.

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Runecraft/Meta#Ovicaptor

Oh.... oh! :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Offline Sandwich

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So Kyad, are you actively waiting for a 1.4.x recommended build before updating the server, or are you AWOL somewhere? :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline KyadCK

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So Kyad, are you actively waiting for a 1.4.x recommended build before updating the server, or are you AWOL somewhere? :p

Waiting. "It compiles" is not good enough. Plus a few plugins need updating.
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Is it worth keeping this running? I barely see anyone online.
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