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Title: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 05, 2018, 07:06:24 pm
So the first actual trailer for the film just dropped:


I've been pretty excited about this for a while! The books are seriously very good (and that's not just childhood nostalgia speaking, I got Aesaar to read them last year and he loved them) and having Peter Jackson and the rest of the LOTR crew adapt them was a pretty fantastic turn of events. It looks like they've captured a lot of the spectacle and character of the books, and added plenty of their own (I love the insectile kite-planes they've turned the books' blimps into), though whether they've stayed true to the excellent character writing is quite hard to tell from a bunch of exposition cut into a trailer.

They totally ****ed Hester's scar, though. She has 100% more face than she should!
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Novachen on June 05, 2018, 09:28:41 pm
Never heard of that... and it is nothing of my taste at it seems.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on June 06, 2018, 11:51:51 am
If I wasn't sold on the story already (Seriously, read the books, they're really cool), this trailer would've done it. This looks like the sort of visually stunning epic-scale adventure that Jackson can deliver really well, and while I still have my quibbles about the toned-down makeup job for Hester, everything else looks properly brilliant.

I am also looking forward to see PANZERSTADT BAYREUTH in there when I saw that pop up in the text I couldn't stop giggling
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Nightmare on June 06, 2018, 12:11:32 pm
Panzerstadt Bareuth WTF? That seems like they don't plan to market this thing in Germany :lol:
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Enioch on June 06, 2018, 12:38:57 pm
Hester is pretty what  (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodHomely)the hell. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodScarsEvilscars)

You know what? No.

I'm sorry, but this grates. It is a personal peeve of mine and I'm not arguing that anyone else should feel the same way, but when an integral part of a character's physical and mental landscape is the fact that they're disfigured and ugly, then I expect them to be depicted as such. The fact that Hollywood seems unable to divorce the 'hero' concept from the 'looks pretty, maybe a bit rugged' concept is pissing me off, perhaps more than it should. When the character goes 'but I am ugly and people are horrified and that has made me bitter and angry', the audience's response should not be 'why is everyone horrified, she looks so badass', the audience's response should be the exact same horror that has led the character to be bitter and angry at others.

What makes it even worse is that Philip Reeve actually discusses this matter in the books, when Hester watches a play based on her life and the lead actor has this teeny cute scar and it pisses Hester off. It's like Reeve saw the future and snarked about it pre-emptively.

Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Novachen on June 06, 2018, 12:41:58 pm
Panzerstadt Bareuth WTF? That seems like they don't plan to market this thing in Germany :lol:
This name made me curious.

It is very strange, because it seems to be a DUTCH city in the universe  :lol:
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on June 06, 2018, 03:05:39 pm
dutch, deutsch, what's the difference
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Nightmare on June 06, 2018, 03:27:38 pm
Well I don't know of course, but if they really do that the movie will probably become known for being extreme popular among German (and maybe Dutch) neonazis, what is not a good thing; alone marketing-wise. :wakka:
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Novachen on June 06, 2018, 04:06:30 pm
dutch, deutsch, what's the difference

Well, actually, you are right, because i can understand Dutch easier than Bavarian.  :D
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Enioch on June 06, 2018, 04:40:04 pm
Well I don't know of course, but if they really do that the movie will probably become known for being extreme popular among German (and maybe Dutch) neonazis, what is not a good thing; alone marketing-wise. :wakka:

PANZERSTADT BAREUTH is unlikely to be popular among German neonazis

Spoiler:
Because she gets nuked by London when she tries to attack them. She loses the battle, very conclusively.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Nightmare on June 06, 2018, 04:51:36 pm
Ah **** I have no idea what this is about anyway. But the White House-like thing reminds me of Spaceballs.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 07, 2018, 01:13:04 am
Oh wait. Hester is a fan favorite, if brought to life in a big screen, that gonna be the cult figure for the radicalisation of the young white women (female neo-Nazi/alt-right)? Or not? Perhaps for the better for us? I am a non-white male user by the way.

She kills a lot of people. What happens if she is pitted against the GTVA? Or Shivans? Or anything else in the likes of the UGSF?

I'm sorry for not knowing what I posted (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=94782.0). I intended to get word about the movie. Anyway, thanks for the thread, Phantom Hoover.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 07, 2018, 01:23:34 am
She kills a lot of people. What happens if she is pitted against the GTVA? Or Shivans? Or anything else in the likes of the UGSF?

i would very very much like to hear more of your thoughts on this matter
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 07, 2018, 01:27:28 am
She kills a lot of people. What happens if she is pitted against the GTVA? Or Shivans? Or anything else in the likes of the UGSF?

i would very very much like to hear more of your thoughts on this matter
Yeah. I wanted to know what if Hester kills people in the GTVA and the UGSF, as well as Shivans (not all of them)...
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Enioch on June 07, 2018, 02:04:09 am
I am completely and utterly confused. What the hell does Hester Shaw have to do with white female radicalization, Shivans, the GTVA and the UGSF? What intricate neural links beyond human ken have made you go for this association?

On second thought, maybe I don't want to know.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Scotty on June 07, 2018, 02:06:54 am
Bryan See is a very good facsimile of a confused poster with an annoying gimmick.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Nightmare on June 07, 2018, 02:22:43 am
I intended to get word about the movie. Anyway, thanks for the thread, Phantom Hoover.

Then you should keep it focussed on the movie instead of mixing this here with FS or something like that. There seem to be people interested in this Mortal Engines movie, but if you keep making these Mortal engines+FS+Alt right mesh-ups, this thread will soon be as locked as the other one(s).
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 07, 2018, 04:43:22 am
I intended to get word about the movie. Anyway, thanks for the thread, Phantom Hoover.

Then you should keep it focussed on the movie instead of mixing this here with FS or something like that. There seem to be people interested in this Mortal Engines movie, but if you keep making these Mortal engines+FS+Alt right mesh-ups, this thread will soon be as locked as the other one(s).
I do not want this thread to be locked, but where can I do such things about Mortal Engines+FS+Alt right mesh ups (Enioch's question "What the hell does Hester Shaw have to do with white female radicalization, Shivans, the GTVA and the UGSF?" answer is something to do with Hester killing people)? I'm sure it's not on this.

Look, this thread is about the movie.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Mongoose on June 07, 2018, 05:03:37 am
If you want to do a crazy crossover fanfiction, feel free to make a thread in the Arts & Talents folder.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 07, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
If you want to do a crazy crossover fanfiction, feel free to make a thread in the Arts & Talents folder.
I found it. Thanks for that. I need it.

Now back to the Mortal Engines movie itself. It was a coincidence that the leads, Robert Sheehan and Hera Hilmar, playing Tom and Hester respectively, were born the same year (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/2017/07/how-old-are-tom-and-hester.html) as me.

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We have no firm details but given the characters are being played by Hera Hilmar and Rob Sheehan born who each were born in 1988 (making them each 29 ish) it's unlikely they are playing 15 year olds. Stranger things have happened in television and movies though as quite famously Gabrielle Carteris was aged 29 when she played 16 year old Andrea Zuckerman in Beverly Hills 90210!
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 07, 2018, 08:32:11 pm
Well I don't know of course, but if they really do that the movie will probably become known for being extreme popular among German (and maybe Dutch) neonazis, what is not a good thing; alone marketing-wise. :wakka:

PANZERSTADT BAREUTH is unlikely to be popular among German neonazis

Spoiler:
Because she gets nuked by London when she tries to attack them. She loses the battle, very conclusively.

Spoiler:
Just another dirty trick from Perfidious Albion!

Panzerstadt Bareuth WTF? That seems like they don't plan to market this thing in Germany :lol:
This name made me curious.

It is very strange, because it seems to be a DUTCH city in the universe  :lol:

Well it was 4 cities bolted together, one of them might've been Dutch!

I, like everyone else, am disappoint with the scar; but in the end it's a lot more important that Hilmar and the director do the character justice. There's not enough in the trailer to really judge that, but Philip Reeve did seem pretty impressed.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 08, 2018, 07:22:37 am
I, like everyone else, am disappoint with the scar; but in the end it's a lot more important that Hilmar and the director do the character justice. There's not enough in the trailer to really judge that, but Philip Reeve did seem pretty impressed.
But Hester's a fan favourite, if not a cult figure. But she proves to be indeed irresistible that she serves as an inspiration for cosplay (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/2017/07/hester-shaw-cosplay.html), which is definitely not going to be discussed here in this thread (I am sure there are other places to discuss such).
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 09, 2018, 07:51:48 pm
I'd like to discuss about MEDUSA, the weapon's gonna featured in the film.

We know before the 60-Minute War the American Empire had developed several superweapons including the directed-energy weapon MEDUSA, the orbital particle cannon Orbital Defence INiative or ODIN and quantum energy beams that drew their power from parallel universes (FreeSpace/BSG included along with Shivans?, but I don't elaborate/discuss any further).
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 27, 2018, 10:10:41 pm
This is obviously a GIANT SPOILER but I asked a guy to draw the final scenes of A Darkling Plain and IMO he did an incredible job:

https://i.imgur.com/wHNwzbp.png
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 29, 2018, 08:42:29 pm
This is obviously a GIANT SPOILER but I asked a guy to draw the final scenes of A Darkling Plain and IMO he did an incredible job:

https://i.imgur.com/wHNwzbp.png
Sounds like it's a prelude to something's that similar to the ending of the LOTR trilogy, where Galadriel is the narrator of that series. In Mortal Engines Quartet, Shrike is the narrator I guess.

It should be noted that the easter eggs (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/2018/06/what-are-all-easter-eggs-in-museum-of.html) in the Museum of London as depicted in the film are, among them, Minions. Mortal Engines is a universal production, so why they didn't include DOOM, FreeSpace and Descent? FreeSpace was developed by Volition (the company that split from Descent developer Parallax Software), who goes on to develop the Red Faction series, which had a TV movie aired on Universal-owned SyFy in 2011.

By the way, Inferno Nostos (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=94800) is out and I plan to work on a mod that crosses over to this ME universe but it's discussed elsewhere, not on this thread.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on June 29, 2018, 10:40:50 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/133SGq9.gif)
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on June 30, 2018, 02:38:40 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/133SGq9.gif)
What does that mean? Amused?

By the way, from what I've heard (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/2017/07/phillipreeve-answers-questions-mortalengines.html), Philip Reeve speak of airship names (e.g. Jenny Haniver and The 13th Floor Elevator, both of which are going to appear in the film), which are unlike those in FreeSpace (because of the 32-character limit and those of Greek, Egypt and Hindu mythologies for Terran, Vasudan and Shivan ships):
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Oh, and airship names I usually take as an excuse to insert a 'found' name - a line of poetry, the title of a song or book...

And these airships are going to appear in the film?
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on July 07, 2018, 02:25:54 pm
TalentHouse Art Works has just hosted an art competition (https://www.talenthouse.com/i/create-artwork-for-mortal-engines-and-universal-pictures), run by Universal Pictures, with a winning prize of $2000.

To HLP'ers, you may participate, but follow the guidelines. As always, in addition to depicting the likeness of the characters of Mortal Engines and including Mortal Engines title treatment logo in their artwork, you can try to depict the likeness of the UGSF, GTVA, UEF, Shivans, Vasudans, Vishnans, UIMS, Cylons, and anything from FreeSpace and the mods, as long as you don't try to use third party pre-existing copyright and/or stock materials. And don't use photography, video or in-game screenshots. Use original artwork.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on July 07, 2018, 02:34:00 pm
Or, if you are an artist who knows how much their work is worth, you can choose not to participate in an effort to crowdsource official artwork.

Also, Bryan, you're a ****ing moron. Using any of the stuff you mentioned means using stuff under pre-existing third party copyright, which you should bloody well know.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on July 07, 2018, 03:39:57 pm
Using any of the stuff you mentioned means using stuff under pre-existing third party copyright, which you should bloody well know.
In other words, not eligible for that competition. I know very well. It states: "All submissions must be original artwork (meaning not using third party pre-existing copyright and/or stock materials)"

This is some kind of crossover artwork, which is not discussed in the thread here.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Rampage on July 07, 2018, 03:50:15 pm
By the way, Inferno Nostos (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=94800) is out and I plan to work on a mod that crosses over to this ME universe but it's discussed elsewhere, not on this thread.

The Inferno Team promotes the usage of our assets in third party modifications.  However you do not have permission to use any of Inferno’s assets in any future works created by you in perpetuity.

Also you need to take this course (http://www.softskillsmalaysia.com.my/service.php?service=22).  Or maybe one more appropriate for your mental age.

R
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on July 07, 2018, 03:55:53 pm
Bryan, learn how the english language works. "You can try to depict <list of copyrighted stuff> as long as you don't use copyrighted stuff" is utterly incoherent. There is no level on which that statement makes sense.

You should know better than that. By which I mean, if you cannot understand the reason why the above statement of yours is complete bull****, you should not be posting here.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on July 07, 2018, 08:50:16 pm
By the way, Inferno Nostos (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=94800) is out and I plan to work on a mod that crosses over to this ME universe but it's discussed elsewhere, not on this thread.

The Inferno Team promotes the usage of our assets in third party modifications.  However you do not have permission to use any of Inferno’s assets in any future works created by you in perpetuity.

Also you need to take this course (http://www.softskillsmalaysia.com.my/service.php?service=22).  Or maybe one more appropriate for your mental age.

R
I consider, but where I can get permission to use any of Inferno’s assets in any future works? (I assume it applies to Blue Planet as well)
Bryan, learn how the english language works. "You can try to depict <list of copyrighted stuff> as long as you don't use copyrighted stuff" is utterly incoherent. There is no level on which that statement makes sense.

You should know better than that. By which I mean, if you cannot understand the reason why the above statement of yours is complete bull****, you should not be posting here.
Yeah. I do. But keep in mind I'm still trying to catch up, as I have many projects in my pipeline. I delayed because I had a lot of university work.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Spoon on July 07, 2018, 11:19:47 pm
I have no issues believing Bryan is in university. He has displayed a level of intelligence that none of us can hope to match.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 07, 2018, 11:59:00 pm
You don't need to be a genius to be a graduate.   ;)



Wonder what subject he's studying and I bet he manages to make it a face palm.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Rampage on July 08, 2018, 02:31:46 am
I consider, but where I can get permission to use any of Inferno’s assets in any future works? (I assume it applies to Blue Planet as well)

You either do not understand English or you are truly an imbecile.  So here it is; you do not have permission to use any of Inferno’s assets now or in the future.  Do not ask.  Do not beg.  If you don’t understand this, PM me and I’ll write you a message in your native Chinese.

According to himself on another post, Bryan is getting his master’s degree.  Having been on the admissions committee for a university, this is why we interview candidates - - to weed out those who are socially inept.  Because at the end of the day, interpersonal skills trump book smarts and degrees.

This will hopefully be the last post I’ll ever write about Bryan, and I wouldn’t have if he didn’t invoke Inferno.  No use throwing pearls to swine.

R
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on July 08, 2018, 05:27:57 am
OK. I guess.

BTW, some say this film is similar to... Star Wars ANH?
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on July 09, 2018, 01:10:20 pm
the opening scene is definitely an obvious (and admitted) structural ripoff, yes, and i guess this probably extends further into the plot. the best part of the book is the bits that subvert normal heroic adventure plot beats though

by the way bryan i see you've been making edits to various wikias featuring hester shaw, do you happen to have a summary of all the stuff you've posted?
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on July 17, 2018, 11:33:41 am
by the way bryan i see you've been making edits to various wikias featuring hester shaw, do you happen to have a summary of all the stuff you've posted?
Yeah. It's on the Kaven Base Databank, a Hellcat Squadran Wiki (https://hellcat.wikia.com/wiki/Hellcat_Squadran_Wiki), a mega crossover of original content and canons from all over the place. There are multiple alternate universe versions of Hester, with at least one depicting her as pure evil... One of them (the Inferno Regime-Verse) portrays her as a savage authoritarian dictator of TRAPPIST-1 who attacked both UGSF and GTVA after allying with the Shivans, UIMS, Bosconian, Battura and Sadeen... There are UGSF ships named after actors playing characters in the Mortal Engines movie.

Phantom Hoover, if you want to discuss this, make a thread in the Arts & Talents folder.

BTW, I loved Hester Shaw because it's one of the reasons why people should add Philip Reeve as my favourite authors. For those who commented on Hester's scar depicted in the film's trailer, the Hester Shaw cosplay (http://crow-caller.tumblr.com/post/62615699324/i-was-curious-and-i-actually-found-a-hester-shaw) from 2013 predates this.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/88f5aadf825cfd12ae1703af77fdbe0b/tumblr_mtw42w201e1r3blhzo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 14, 2018, 05:12:30 pm
I've just read this post regarding about the Mortal Engines movie sequel (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/2018/08/will-there-be-mortal-engines-movie.html) that is the adaptations of Predator's Gold, and later, Infernal Devices and A Darkling Plain. While Peter Jackson and company are eyeing on doing Mortal Engines sequels, there has been no formal announcement of sequel plans. Philipa Boyens had this to say when asked about the possibility of a second film:

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I certainly never sat down and I know Pete did sat down and thought of this in terms of a sequel–you know, sequels. I mean, we’re just, like, get this thing working first. And then think about what may happen. But, mostly, this has to work as a film. This may be the only one. Who knows? I hope not because I think it’s a–I think the story just keeps getting better and better. And I want to see the other traction engines now that I’ve seen in this one. I want to see Panzerstadt. I want to see Arkangel. I want to see these ones that are bigger and meaner.

The trailer posted here was nothing to write home about in terms of feel or giving one a sense of 'instant classic'. While London looked fabulous and Anna Fang feels absolutely murderous overall, it felt somewhat underwhelming.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 22, 2018, 06:56:42 pm
I stumbled upon an article on ScreenRant (https://screenrant.com/mortal-engines-movie-minions-explained/) on the setting of Mortal Engines, which, according to production designer Dan Hennah, set approx 1700 years from now (the same setting(!) as Shattered Stars). I wonder, how did the FreeSpace Universe (including Blue Planet/SS shared continuities) and the 2004 BSG (re-imagined) universe fit in? How did Earth end up in a state like in the film between the end of FS2/BP and ME?

Hint:
ME take place approx. 151,709 years after BSG.
FS takes place 150,326 years after BSG.
FS2 takes place 150,358 years after BSG.
BP takes place 150,376 years after BSG.

Edit:
BTW, if the GTVA survived by that ME timeframe, let's say around 3800 AD, I am sure the GTVA's very drastic fears will have come true. Earth has been reduced to a wasteland, and roamed by Traction Cities. Then, Sol will have left completely vulnerable to Shivan invasion. Hester Shaw might be a major project underway in Sol space which might serve as a weapon against the GTVA, according to BP intelligence data (http://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/Blue_Planet_intelligence_data#The_Balance_of_Power.2C_Parts_1_to_5).

I know that this kind of crossover fiction don't belong in this thread, but I'm not sure how they will respond.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Nightmare on August 22, 2018, 07:18:26 pm
I'm sure that you're the only person on Earth who's capable of awnsering these questions.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 22, 2018, 07:21:57 pm
I am. I'm talking about the film.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on August 22, 2018, 07:40:06 pm
I am. I'm talking about the film.

No you ****ing aren't. You're talking about a weird little mashup that exists only and exclusively in your head.

Mortal Engines is its own thing. It is not connected to other franchises. FS2 is not part of the Mortal Engines backstory. BP is not part of it. BSG is not part of it.

You said in your post that you do know that crossover fiction has no place in this thread. Please demonstrate that you actually know what that means and do not post about your crossover fiction in this thread.

Consider this a warning. Any further post from you in this thread that involves FS, BSG, your mod or any other franchise will be split out and locked.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 22, 2018, 07:52:57 pm
You said in your post that you do know that crossover fiction has no place in this thread. Please demonstrate that you actually know what that means and do not post about your crossover fiction in this thread.
Like ME has similarities to Star Wars, with Anna Fang is Han Solo. The stories in the books keep getting better.

FYI, you are on the ME discord.

I heard this warning. So, where can I made this post that involves FS, BSG, my mod or any other franchise (i.e. UGSF Series) without making one in this thread? In the thread of my mod?
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on August 22, 2018, 08:10:04 pm
Like ME has similarities to Star Wars, with Anna Fang is Han Solo. The stories in the books keep getting better.

If you want to compare ME to other franchises, fine, go right ahead. But do not post about how these disparate franchises are part of some giant thing you made up.

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FYI, you are on the ME discord.

I am on several discords.

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I heard this warning. So, where can I made this post that involves FS, BSG, my mod or any other franchise (i.e. UGSF Series) without making one in this thread? In the thread of my mod?

The thread you made for your own mods would be a good place for that sort of discussion, yes.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 23, 2018, 03:56:18 pm
Do you know that one of Philip Reeve's (the author of ME), early influences include Star Wars? Its references are evident.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on August 23, 2018, 08:11:11 pm
New York Comic Con will be hosting a Mortal Engines (https://mortalengines.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Superzann/Mortal_Engines_at_NYCC) panel on Friday October 5.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 01, 2018, 03:16:50 pm
Two new posters have arrived.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lXjxZgbl4oQ/W7J0CC8685I/AAAAAAAAA08/-S8-_uyi0-YCwCZm1kj5xy7JR-tFEqiPgCLcBGAs/s1600/hester-shaw-official-mortalengines-poster.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pccCgyZ5fNA/W7J1R5wVVdI/AAAAAAAAA1I/6484MBTQsyQdNBfmSgL6jQINeHuw82KFwCLcBGAs/s640/official-mortal-engines-poster.jpg)

Plus, a Hester Shaw featurette.


Don't tell me that a match with Peter Jackson being made in heaven I hope, and that the Shivans and Cylons are waiting.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 05, 2018, 02:27:24 pm
A new trailer has been released (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=95154.new#new).
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: StarSlayer on October 05, 2018, 07:32:08 pm
Do you know that one of Philip Reeve's (the author of ME), early influences include Star Wars? Its references are evident.

Wait, you mean to say that the largest movies in the SciFi genre influenced other creators in said genre? 

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-17-2016/G2yRZm.gif)
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 06, 2018, 10:02:03 am
Do you know that one of Philip Reeve's (the author of ME), early influences include Star Wars? Its references are evident.

Wait, you mean to say that the largest movies in the SciFi genre influenced other creators in said genre? 

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-17-2016/G2yRZm.gif)

Yes.

As stated in the biography page in Philip Reeve's official website (http://www.philip-reeve.com/about/):
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His early influences included Oliver Postgate, Jackanory, Blue Peter, Asterix, Look and Learn, Swallows and Amazons, Airfix models, Whizzer and Chips, Rosemary Sutcliff, Action Man, JRR Tolkein, Star Wars, biscuits, bikes and boats.
Not to mention there are lots of references (https://www.mortalenginesmovie.com/search/label/star%20wars) in it.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 11, 2018, 10:01:40 pm
Folks, Bryan has literally no capability to grasp sarcasm in text, so - difficult as it may be - please avoid the snark; it just leads to more posts and replies devoid of meaningful content.  Which frankly we could do with fewer of in these threads anyway.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 12, 2018, 12:07:01 pm
Folks, Bryan has literally no capability to grasp sarcasm in text, so - difficult as it may be - please avoid the snark; it just leads to more posts and replies devoid of meaningful content.  Which frankly we could do with fewer of in these threads anyway.
Sorry for failing to grasp any bit of sarcasm.

Anyway, how's the second official trailer released last week?

BTW, I'd like to re-create the airship Jenny Haniver and the 13th Floor Elevator for FreeSpace.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 12, 2018, 12:19:41 pm
Blender is free 3d modelling software.   I suggest downloading it (Google will yield a link) and following the very comprehensive tutorials within its included documentation.   


You can recreate to your hearts content once you master the tutorials.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 12, 2018, 01:38:13 pm
Blender is free 3d modelling software.   I suggest downloading it (Google will yield a link) and following the very comprehensive tutorials within its included documentation.   


You can recreate to your hearts content once you master the tutorials.
I have it, and been using it ever since. :)

But what of the Jenny Haniver and 13th Floor Elevator? There are at least two (or three) reference pictures of the airships.
(http://www.philip-reeve.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2018-06-06-at-08.37.20.png)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YZ5Ac2-8fW4/W7x9MB5NLAI/AAAAAAAAA3M/mX_pCOeaMUEW-V6r62knV8bc4UJ2DhtrwCLcBGAs/s640/13th-elevator-floor-ship-thadeuss.PNG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MZ4W5haycvI/W7x9MXECR4I/AAAAAAAAA3Q/-SOdeK8N0B0eTOTG652ys8QJgWY81g3VQCLcBGAs/s1600/13th-elevator-concept-valentine.PNG)
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 12, 2018, 02:27:56 pm
You'll need to research your own reference I'm afraid.   Or use your own creative ability and imagination to interpret anything your images may not provide when creating your model.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 12, 2018, 02:31:20 pm
as entertaining as bryan is, and as cynical as my attempt to capitalise on this in the thread title was, can we maybe talk about the film being made based on the cool books for a bit instead?

like their shrike is precisely on point:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalengines/images/1/13/Shrike_trailer2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181006112800)
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 13, 2018, 11:55:14 am
as entertaining as bryan is, and as cynical as my attempt to capitalise on this in the thread title was, can we maybe talk about the film being made based on the cool books for a bit instead?

like their shrike is precisely on point:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalengines/images/1/13/Shrike_trailer2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181006112800)
Looks cool :)

Admittedly, I and Peter Jackson do not meet a match in heaven at the least.

But is he Shivan or Cylon or UIMS or Borg or Cyberman or Dalek or something? Or Hester could be?

You'll need to research your own reference I'm afraid.   Or use your own creative ability and imagination to interpret anything your images may not provide when creating your model.
Thanks for that.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on October 13, 2018, 11:58:53 am
as entertaining as bryan is, and as cynical as my attempt to capitalise on this in the thread title was, can we maybe talk about the film being made based on the cool books for a bit instead?

like their shrike is precisely on point:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalengines/images/1/13/Shrike_trailer2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181006112800)

The latest trailer has me more optimistic about the whole thing. It's going to be a massive spectacle-a-minute, visual overload of a movie, and honestly, I'm a bit of a sucker for those.
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: Bryan See on October 13, 2018, 01:12:13 pm
as entertaining as bryan is, and as cynical as my attempt to capitalise on this in the thread title was, can we maybe talk about the film being made based on the cool books for a bit instead?

like their shrike is precisely on point:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalengines/images/1/13/Shrike_trailer2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181006112800)

The latest trailer has me more optimistic about the whole thing. It's going to be a massive spectacle-a-minute, visual overload of a movie, and honestly, I'm a bit of a sucker for those.
I had grim feelings about the prospects of Mortal Engines sequels...
Title: Re: MORTAL ENGINES: Peter Jackson and Bryan See: a match made in heaven?
Post by: The E on November 02, 2018, 04:05:35 pm
This is still in effect, Bryan.

Consider this a warning. Any further post from you in this thread that involves FS, BSG, your mod or any other franchise will be split out and locked.