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Title: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 07, 2011, 02:31:32 am
This sacrilege cannot continue.

WiiWare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiiWare). Must (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_story#Versions_and_ports). Die! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-Mulana#WiiWare_version)  :mad2:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Pred the Penguin on January 07, 2011, 04:58:45 am
Idontgetit...  :blah:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: The E on January 07, 2011, 05:07:01 am
Ahhh, good ole nerd rage. Nothing new to see here, move along.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Titan on January 07, 2011, 09:00:09 am
wha..?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Mongoose on January 07, 2011, 02:59:13 pm
Um.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 18, 2011, 04:50:31 pm
What did it ever do to you?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 18, 2011, 07:57:43 pm
What did it ever do to you?

Seriously?  :wtf:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 18, 2011, 11:49:53 pm
I knew somebody was going to rage on the WiiWare version of Cave Story sooner or later. Not that I've tried it - I don't own a console - but I've read the TVTropes Wiki article. :p
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 08:09:19 am
What did it ever do to you?

Seriously?  :wtf:

...Yes. Did it sodomize your mother?
What crime makes it deserving of death?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 19, 2011, 08:37:55 am
What did it ever do to you?

Seriously?  :wtf:

...Yes. Did it sodomize your mother?
What crime makes it deserving of death?

RTFT. :/

This sacrilege cannot continue.

WiiWare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiiWare). Must (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_story#Versions_and_ports). Die! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-Mulana#WiiWare_version)  :mad2:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Titan on January 19, 2011, 09:15:13 am
Seriously, what's wrong with WiiWare?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Flipside on January 19, 2011, 09:19:41 am
Read the links, it seems to be, in essence, that Nintendo have forgotten that not just 6-year olds own a Wii ;)
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Mongoose on January 19, 2011, 10:58:02 am
Well then, liek, don't buy that game for WiiWare and quityer*****in? :p
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 19, 2011, 02:01:56 pm
Well then, liek, don't buy that game for WiiWare and quityer*****in? :p

Monetary expenditures has nothing to do with this.  WiiWare is bastardizing all that is good in this world.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 02:06:31 pm
What did it ever do to you?

Seriously?  :wtf:

...Yes. Did it sodomize your mother?
What crime makes it deserving of death?

RTFT. :/

This sacrilege cannot continue.

WiiWare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiiWare). Must (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_story#Versions_and_ports). Die! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-Mulana#WiiWare_version)  :mad2:

I read the topic. I just find your reasons insufficient to back up your proposed conviction. Do you stab people who trip you?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 19, 2011, 02:55:15 pm

Seriously?  :wtf:

...Yes. Did it sodomize your mother?
What crime makes it deserving of death?

RTFT. :/

This sacrilege cannot continue.

WiiWare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiiWare). Must (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_story#Versions_and_ports). Die! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-Mulana#WiiWare_version)  :mad2:

I read the topic. I just find your reasons insufficient to back up your proposed conviction. Do you stab people who trip you?

Yes.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 03:12:39 pm
Then I think this is more of a personal problem.

You're the one that needs help, not WiiWare
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Galemp on January 19, 2011, 05:08:42 pm
But but but... Descent!
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 19, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
Then I think this is more of a personal problem.

You're the one that needs help, not WiiWare

And I suppose if someone took a leak on your dog, it would be your problem?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 06:24:57 pm
I don't own a dog.

And yes, technically it would. Regardless of what happens to them, my hypothetical dog would still be covered in urine, and it would be up to me to wash it. And I would certainly be frustrated, but I wouldn't think death would help anything.

That would make me mentally unstable.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Flipside on January 19, 2011, 06:33:04 pm
I can see you are going to fit right in here..... :p
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 06:34:43 pm
I can see you are going to fit right in here..... :p

I do try. Thanks :P
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 19, 2011, 06:46:45 pm
That would make me mentally unstable.
You're trapped in a room with iamzack.  Mental instability is inevitable.  Resistance is futile.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 06:49:28 pm
That would make me mentally unstable.
You're trapped in a room with iamzack.  Mental instability is inevitable.  Resistance is futile.

I'm not trapped. I can leave any time....
>.>
<.<
>.>
*runs*
*trips*

...You never know, we could be mutually beneficial to each other. With our combined powers, we will become healed! 0:)
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Ravenholme on January 19, 2011, 06:52:15 pm
That would make me mentally unstable.
You're trapped in a room with iamzack.  Mental instability is inevitable.  Resistance is futile.

I'm not trapped. I can leave any time....
>.>
<.<
>.>
*runs*
*trips*

...You never know, we could be mutually beneficial to each other. With our combined powers, we will become healed! 0:)

I almost think that concept is scarier  ;)
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 19, 2011, 06:55:00 pm
That would make me mentally unstable.
You're trapped in a room with iamzack.  Mental instability is inevitable.  Resistance is futile.
*bit too big, snip snip*
...You never know, we could be mutually beneficial to each other. With our combined powers, we will become healed! 0:)

I almost think that concept is scarier  ;)

 :drevil:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 20, 2011, 04:57:37 am
I look forward to playing the WiiWare version of La-Mulana.  I loved the MSXed version of it, and an SNESized iteration ought to be really nifty to play.  The game is basically a mixture of Indiana Jones, Zelda, and Symphony of the Night.   :)

La-Mulana trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgPHW_99ay4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgPHW_99ay4&feature=player_embedded)


DeceasedCrab's Let's Play of La-Mulana #01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEn5huyUcsg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEn5huyUcsg&feature=related)
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 20, 2011, 11:20:01 am
That looks kind of neat! But, I think that it would only make me nostalgic for Oracle of Seasons and make me play that instead :3
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 20, 2011, 06:32:17 pm
Heh, it plays completely different from Oracle of Seasons.  Actually, there was a 3rd game planned for the Oracle series, but it was decommissioned and bits of it was used for the other two.  I am hoping that Nintendo someday remakes the series, and would love to see the 3rd entry.  Maybe for the 3DS?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 20, 2011, 07:43:23 pm
D: I didn't know that! Do you know what it was going to be called?
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 20, 2011, 07:54:20 pm
The Mystical Seed of Courage, featuring Farore.  The other two Oracle games had Nayru and Din, which are Oracles, and presumably related to the three Goddesses that made the Tri-Force.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Mystical_Seed_of_Courage (http://www.zeldawiki.org/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Mystical_Seed_of_Courage)
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 20, 2011, 07:57:45 pm
That's so amazing...

Want >.<
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Liberator on January 20, 2011, 11:51:03 pm
I don't understand, what about the games listed is "DA DEBIL!"
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 21, 2011, 12:15:23 am
Altering the sacred Cave Story is equivalent to Alderaan shooting first.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Hades on January 21, 2011, 04:45:32 am
Alderaan shooting first.
That would be cool to see, actually.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 21, 2011, 07:49:31 am
Seconded.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: BloodEagle on January 21, 2011, 09:22:57 am
Altering the sacred Cave Story is equivalent to Alderaan shooting first.

The worst part is that they made it worse.  They trashed the graphics, deformed (they didn't just re-score it, they freaking changed it) the music, fsked with the dialogue (the fan translation did a better job), and they changed the race of the player character, who is a robot!  All of these are listed as "improvements," by the way.

I fear for LA-MULANA.

---------------------------

That looks kind of neat! But, I think that it would only make me nostalgic for Oracle of Seasons and make me play that instead :3

Did you actually just compare the masterpiece that is LA-MULANA with one of the shoddy, non-canon Zelda-themed games?

....

You're a troll.  It all makes sense now.  :ick:
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 21, 2011, 10:27:35 am
Altering the sacred Cave Story is equivalent to Alderaan shooting first.

The worst part is that they made it worse.  They trashed the graphics, deformed (they didn't just re-score it, they freaking changed it) the music, fsked with the dialogue (the fan translation did a better job), and they changed the race of the player character, who is a robot!  All of these are listed as "improvements," by the way.

I think the biggest offence by a mile was to change Balrog's catchphrase into Kool-Aid.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 21, 2011, 02:48:36 pm

That looks kind of neat! But, I think that it would only make me nostalgic for Oracle of Seasons and make me play that instead :3

Did you actually just compare the masterpiece that is LA-MULANA with one of the shoddy, non-canon Zelda-themed games?

....

You're a troll.  It all makes sense now.  :ick:

"It all makes sense"? Me calling you out for being unreasonably murderous? Just giving my opinion, which I happened to be entitled to. If that angers you, it's no fault of mine.

You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion as well. But I don't consider the GB Zelda games to be crap, and I've never even heard of LA-MULANA. That doesn't make me a terrible person, and it certainly doesn't make me wrong. I'm just not an elitist. Yes, OoT was better, but that doesn't mean I'm going to blindly hate a genuinely entertaining game just because Zelda isn't actually in it.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 21, 2011, 03:01:05 pm
The WiiWare version had an update that fixed the music bugs and a couple of other things, along with translation corrections.  I preferred the "Huzzah!" myself for Balrog, in part because of DeceasedCrab's Let's Play, that guy makes watching a Let's Play fun - that is why I am attached to the Huzzah!,  because I associate it with a good memory.  If the text and DeceasedCrab said "Oh Yeah!" originally, then I would enjoy it because of the Crab, and the camp associated with the Kool-Aid man.  :)

As for Oracle of Seasons and comparing it to La-Mulana...uh, what?  They may both have puzzles, but they are very different games.  It is possible to love them both, for their own identities.


Sayoqod:  You seem interested in Zelda trivia, so here is a link to a video that talks about a series of Zelda games on the SNES that didn't appear in America.  The games used a satellite system, with a whole bunch of issues...and voice acting.  Heh, it takes the video some time to get around to the games proper, but is interesting to watch in my opinion.

16-Bit Gems:  BS Zelda
http://www.clanofthegraywolf.com/16-bit-gems/20 (http://www.clanofthegraywolf.com/16-bit-gems/20)


By the way, I actually enjoyed Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, which probably makes me one of the weirdest guys in the thread.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 21, 2011, 03:07:03 pm
As for Oracle of Seasons and comparing it to La-Mulana...uh, what?  They may both have puzzles, but they are very different games.  It is possible to love them both, for their own identities.  I actually enjoyed Tingle's Rupeeland, which probably makes me one of the weirdest guys in the thread.


Sayoqod:  You seem interested in Zelda trivia, so here is a link to a video that talks about a series of Zelda games on the SNES that didn't appear in America.  The games used a satellite system, with a whole bunch of issues...and voice acting.  Heh, it takes the video some time to get around to the games proper, but is interesting to watch in my opinion.

16-Bit Gems:  BS Zelda
http://www.clanofthegraywolf.com/16-bit-gems/20 (http://www.clanofthegraywolf.com/16-bit-gems/20)

And I don't think I implied that they were. I just think that the graphics in the ad posted were similar enough that it would remind me about the Oracles.

Thanks for the link! Definitely dragging my GB out when I next go back home :D

Side note: I'm minoring in Japanese. He hurts my ears a bit when he tries :P
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: Sabin Stargem on January 21, 2011, 03:30:51 pm
That part was mostly to respond to Blood Eagle about La-Mulana VS Oracle. 

I actually often find that games that have an strong art direction are often very good.  Yoshi's Island, Iji, Aquaria, Braid, and many other games are ultimately the result of many separate elements working together effectively, but the graphical style is what really makes the initial sell.  So I can see why the MSXy version of La-Mulana could appeal to you.

One of the things that initially attracted me to La-Mulana was that it had puzzles like Zelda, which was one of the things that made me try it.  The other reason is that Gideon Zhi, a major coordinator of videogame translations, was the one who translated Cave Story and La-Mulana.  As a gamer, I basically feel that he is similar to Miyamoto, Will Wright, or Hideo Kojima in terms of what he does for my hobby.  I usually give his translations a spin, and discovered a fairly good number of awesome games and series as a result.
Title: Re: WiiWare Must Die
Post by: sayoqod on January 21, 2011, 04:10:30 pm
Cool. I'll have to give it a go :)