[colecampbell666]

This site is not newb-friendly. There is nothing on the front page, and you have to snake through the maze of forums to find FSO downloads. We need more user-friendliness. Possibly a "GET FSO!!!!1!1!" link on the front page, a "Downloads" page with MVPs, .EXEs, and some recent builds, etc. in a non-confusing manner. (and actually explained)

[jdjtcagle]

I agree...

[Stormkeeper]

The log-in section is also pretty small. I don't really notice it and usually hammer "Forums" and get redirected to the log-in page. And the Forums button is pretty small and unnoticable... the whole top tab, actually.

[Mobius]

Suggestions, FAQs, things about HLP and FS3 related discussions...

[Stormkeeper]

And warnings about mentioning FS3.

[colecampbell666]

Not really, no one cares anymore.

[Stormkeeper]

.... True.

[Flipside]

FS3 related discussions...

It would just turn into a major flame war, which would repeat itself in various formats over and over every few months, the mods have better things to do than stop arguments over whether the plot-line would go one way or another, or which campaign is most 'like how you imagined Freespace 3'. It isn't important and it really isn't relevant unless an actual Freespace 3 looks like a real possibility.

[Fury]

I'm sure most if not all admins agree. As a matter of fact, they have been working on something since October that should remedy these complaints.

[Polpolion]

Pretty much all this site actually does, is be a big forum. If a newb can't find a register button or whatever it is, then he probably shouldn't be here. On top of that, there are two entire boards devoted FSU and FSO. Then there are the myriad stickied "wth do i do" threads in the numerous boards. The only thing that I could possibly see being even remotely necessary is an HLP FAQ or something.

[jr2]

http://tremulous.net <=- they has a big forum, too - tremulous.net/forums .  However, their main page has... ah, download links, etc, etc.  But the admins are working on it?  Well, patience, then, I guess.

[colecampbell666]

Well, patience, then, I guess.

Yup.

[haloboy100]

Pretty much all this site actually does, is be a big forum. If a newb can't find a register button or whatever it is, then he probably shouldn't be here. On top of that, there are two entire boards devoted FSU and FSO. Then there are the myriad stickied "wth do i do" threads in the numerous boards. The only thing that I could possibly see being even remotely necessary is an HLP FAQ or something.

So that's all HLP really is in the end? Just a big forum for people to scream at each other with?

Kinda defeats the purpose of helping with the SCP then, IMO.

[Fenrir]

I'm sure most if not all admins agree. As a matter of fact, they have been working on something since October that should remedy these complaints.

That`s good. I mean I understand what the topic creator was talking about. Recently I came here again for the first time in a few years and it took me some time to find the boards. @_@

[Stormkeeper]

Lets just be patient. I'm sure the mods have already realised how noob-unfriendly the site is. They're probably working on a solution.

For now we can just list what we don't like about the current site, and the mods can use it as a checklist of sorts

[Dark Hunter]

So that's all HLP really is in the end? Just a big forum for people to scream at each other with?

Kinda defeats the purpose of helping with the SCP then, IMO.

To quote Flipside(?):

FS2 and the SCP first, yelling and throwing bananas at each other second.

[Mobius]

It would just turn into a major flame war, which would repeat itself in various formats over and over every few months, the mods have better things to do than stop arguments over whether the plot-line would go one way or another, or which campaign is most 'like how you imagined Freespace 3'. It isn't important and it really isn't relevant unless an actual Freespace 3 looks like a real possibility.

I was meaning things about Karajorma's FAQ section about FS3 that explains better than anything else how the community reacts to certain threads.

I'd like to see an introduction to HLP, a guide explaining how the boards are sort and what they're here for, the answer to many questions like "Who is Derek Smart?" and "What's the SCP?", how to install FSO and use mods, something about FRED and custom campaigns, total conversion and MOD teams...

Basically things you learn by staying here.

[Tolwyn]

I'm sure most if not all admins agree. As a matter of fact, they have been working on something since October that should remedy these complaints.

Yes, we are fabulous.

[Polpolion]

It would just turn into a major flame war, which would repeat itself in various formats over and over every few months, the mods have better things to do than stop arguments over whether the plot-line would go one way or another, or which campaign is most 'like how you imagined Freespace 3'. It isn't important and it really isn't relevant unless an actual Freespace 3 looks like a real possibility.

I'd like to see an introduction to HLP, a guide explaining how the boards are sort and what they're here for, the answer to many questions like "Who is Derek Smart?" and "What's the SCP?", how to install FSO and use mods, something about FRED and custom campaigns, total conversion and MOD teams...

I've said it before and I'll say it again: FSO has two boards devoted to it. The SCP and FSU. The most  you need is a thread saying what it is in each board, maybe with a few links to other threads containing useful information. Then I suppose you could make an HLP FAQ to answer misc community questions such as "wtf r a anon accident?" and whatnot.

Personally, all I think we really need is a bigger link to Kara's Freespace FAQ. I might even go as far to ask Kara if he could to integrate the FAQ into HLP (well maybe not totally, but perhaps go further into detail about each community). Not too much sense in having all of this redundant information floating around.

I remember I learned all about FS from Kara's FS FAQ, or at least when I remembered how to spell "karajorma". Kara's FAQ is an excellent site for newbies to FS, there's no sense in making another HLP-specific one. That's the main reason why I think we should either ask Kara to further connect his FAQ to us, or to make another huge link to his FAQ here and make an HLP history page.

[General Battuta]

Sorry, thesizzler, but I've helped more than a dozen newbs get FSOpen from this site.

Many of them were experienced gamers and expert computer users. Not one managed to find Turey's Installer or Kara's FAQ on his/her own before expressing at least some degree of frustration. All of them needed directions from me. The layout here is, as they've said: 'disorienting', 'awful', 'totally disorganized.' It 'fails every test of user-friendliness I can imagine.' One girl asked 'Are they trying to screen me out of their userbase?'

There really needs to be a large link to Turey's Installer right at the top of the front page. No menus, no list of options, just one reliable source.