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Offline Dragon

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
I think that the texture could use some markings outlining the hatches, cockpit, intakes and weapons.

 

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
I think that the texture could use some markings outlining the hatches, cockpit, intakes and weapons.

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
The reason they're not there is because I can't think of a single imperial ship, or even land unit, that has such markings. Seems like an imp thing to me. Since it has the at-at in space looks, I also wanted it to look in line with that - basically an armored hunk of metal in space. Making it all happy colors would, imo, detract from that.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
We can do reskins later if they're needed.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
We can do reskins later if they're needed.

Can't say when but those are planned. This one is *just* your run-of-the-mill basic imp version.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
Looks like the ship set is approaching numbers that would let us be able to make a clone of X-Wing...

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
Which we are definitely not doing.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
I get where some people are coming from with markings, but perhaps it's better to explain why they think there should be.  The feeling I think comes from that right now, it almost feels as if the ship is not an actual ship, but something carved out of a block of granite (very nicely carved of course).  It just feels lifeless compared to some of the other Imperial models like the older ISD Brand had made.  Maybe it's just things like the exhausts and turret tips, or something else, I don't know but I think that's why everyone feels like it needs a little something to really come alive.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
It does feel a bit lifeless, but I agree that painted markings would be out of character for the Empire. I think it'll come alive much more once it has a few glowpoints, glowing engines, and maybe a baked-in spotlight or two. And much as it can get old seeing the same obvious mark on every ship of a class, a good scar would really add some character.

Also, one thing you do see in both the star destroyers and the walkers are areas that aren't flat slabs of armor. It makes sense to minimize this even more than normally in a stormtrooper transport, but some kind of greebly area would break things up nicely.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2010, 01:09:24 am by Alan Bolte »
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
would black/dark grey serial numbers be too out of character so they are there but not attention grabbing
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
What about an Imperial Emblem?

 

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I hate to repeat myself, but the basic imperial version is going to have the simple imperial gray theme. However, do keep in mind that what you see here are renders. Depending on the lighting, some of the weathering and color can look a bit "bleached out", even if it brings out other detail. In the game, one has the option to actually bring out the color of the weathering, since the final look is accomplished by a blend of diffuse, specular, glow and normal maps. So, I wish this wouldn't degrade into a "add your pattern" brainstorming session. Once the final game maps are done it'll look good in-game. And again, there will be other variants.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
dont really like it, its far too big, the ship is supposed to be only 20m long. the shape is cack, looks more like that godawful dropship from force commander. maybe spend a bit more time doing something more interesting with the feet (always thought of them as clamps, theres a door at the bottom). Make a nice new class of ship, maybe a dropship or something but bit too far removed from the original trn for my liking

 

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
Wow.  At least you made it clear in the first sentence you don't know what you're talking about so I could take everything else you said with a grain of salt.  It is 20m long (not 20ft, not 20 yards, 20m).  It was scaled so that a ~2m stormtrooper could barely make it into the hatch on the side, which was on one of the original 'TRN' models you talk about, and still have to duck.  20m is a little less than 2 X-wings long, and that's about what I figured it should be.  As far as its resemblance to the original TRN, do you even know what one looks like?  This is one of the most faithful reproductions of a TG model we've done.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
bit too far removed from the original trn for my liking




ok yes there is additional levels of detail, the triangular protrusions from the missile rack and different pain scheme there isnt a huge difference between the two and are quite clearly the same class
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
eh? i said 20m, what are you talking about? i know its badly scaled, most tg ships are, take that stormtrooper as 2m tall though and its a pretty big ship. shapewise its the same but the overall look differs greatly. the textures on tg's model differ wildly from the look of the new one. personally i'd have gone with their look as they were the ones to invent it if you like. my remarks are meant as constructive btw, sorry if theyre badly worded

btw keep it civil, theres no need for comments like i dont know what im talking about, i used to be a team member on here back when karma was running the show and made one of these for homeworld, here and xwa upgrade. not as good a model as this but i do have some modding experience.

 

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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
Seems that even putting a stormtrooper next to it to show off scale isn't enough for some people.. The model is 20m long. The hatch on the side of the head is just enough for a regular stormtrooper in armor to get through. Though that hatch is meant for the flight crew. The top and bottom docking collars and the aft hatch are quite enough for several stormtroopers to use at once (aft hatch two at once, the docking collar actually uses an elevator system that should support 4 at a time).
As for the "lifelessness", well, there may be some merit to that but do remember that this texture isn't final and I will be putting in some more detail and fixing up weathering where appropriate. Lastly, anyone who still doesn't like it, tough, my heart bleeds for you. As far as I'm concerned, go play the original X-Wing and enjoy that version better, for all I care, because the good folks at FotG seemed happy to accept this version (again, not final yet). Never was a big fan of whining..
« Last Edit: June 18, 2010, 09:12:47 am by newman »
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
Newman's version gives a more Imperial and Star Warsy impression to me.
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Re: Telgorn Delta Class DX-9 Stomtrooper Transport
 :wtf:

Pearls before swine.  Its a wonder they still show any progress shots the amount of stubborn second guessing and whining that occurs on this board.  Seriously there's supposed to be an inverse relationship between quality product and the amount of *****ing.  Yet despite  FotG consistently attaining a level of quality thats damn near the best on HLP, its always met with its to long/wide/short/tall/not colorful enough. 

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I can't see a whining campaign here.
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