[Valathil]

ok this is kinda bad you know why. I have no friggin idea left why this happens now.

[Commander Zane]

I'll give 11.7 drivers a shot and see if that does anything, that's about the only remaining option for me outside of lolgetnvidia.

[Valathil]

ok last shot: http://www.mediafire.com/?ajp758mu3duc598

otherwise

[Commander Zane]

Okay, I get engine artifacts but no explosion / shockwave artifacts in this release.
I'll downgrade to 11.7 drivers and see if I get lucky.

[Valathil]

swifty gave me a tip and i know whats "wrong" i can fix it but it will take some time

[Bobboau]

what was it?

[Zacam]

I made a "Retail" (read: doesn't require BluePlanet) version of the cloaking mission.
Really, the only reason why it wanted BP was the AI, background bitmap, and that it had all the ships and weapons in the loadout available.

Code: (Cloak Test.fs2) [Select]

#Mission Info

$Version: 0.10
$Name:  XSTR("Cloak Test", -1)
$Author: Microsoft
$Created: 07/05/11 at 19:03:00
$Modified: 08/04/11 at 19:14:47
$Notes:
This is a FRED2_OPEN created mission.
$End Notes:

$Mission Desc:
 XSTR("Put mission description here", -1)
$end_multi_text

+Game Type Flags: 1
+Flags: 128
+Disallow Support: 0
+Hull Repair Ceiling: 0.000000
+Subsystem Repair Ceiling: 100.000000

+Viewer pos: -13808.654297, 2227.800781, 2949.279785
+Viewer orient:
-0.032212, -0.000000, -0.999481,
0.230627, 0.973014, -0.007433,
0.972509, -0.230747, -0.031343

$Skybox Model: starfield.pof
$AI Profile: FS2 Retail

#Command Briefing

#Briefing
$start_briefing
$num_stages: 0
$end_briefing

#Debriefing_info

$Num stages: 0

#Players ;! 1 total

$Starting Shipname: GTF Ulysses 0
$Ship Choices: (
"GTF Ulysses" 5
"GTF Hercules" 5
"GTF Hercules Mark II" 5
"GTF Ares" 5
"GTF Erinyes" 5
"GTF Loki" 5
"GTF Pegasus" 5
"GTF Perseus" 5
"GTF Myrmidon" 5
"SF Mara (terrans)" 5
"GTB Artemis" 5
"GTB Artemis D.H." 5
"GTB Medusa" 5
"GTB Ursa" 5
"GTB Zeus" 5
"GTB Boanerges" 5
"GVF Ptah" 5
)

+Weaponry Pool: (
"Subach HL-7" 16
"Mekhu HL-7" 16
"Akheton SDG" 16
"Morning Star" 16
"Prometheus R" 16
"Prometheus S" 16
"Maxim" 16
"UD-8 Kayser" 16
"Circe" 16
"Lamprey" 16
"Rockeye" 500
"Tempest" 500
"Hornet" 500
"Tornado" 500
"Harpoon" 500
"Trebuchet" 500
"TAG-A" 500
"TAG-B" 500
"TAG-C" 500
"Piranha" 500
"Stiletto II" 500
"Infyrno" 500
"Cyclops" 500
"Helios" 500
"EMP Adv." 500
)

#Objects ;! 3 total

$Name: GTF Ulysses 0 ;! Object #0
$Class: GTF Ulysses
$Team: Friendly
$Location: -5837.034180, 0.000433, 1414.765503
$Orientation:
-0.512272, -0.011408, -0.858748,
0.118509, 0.989409, -0.083839,
0.850609, -0.144717, -0.505495
$AI Behavior: None
$Cargo 1:  XSTR("Nothing", -1)
+Initial Hull: 100
+Subsystem: Pilot
$Arrival Location: Hyperspace
$Arrival Cue: ( true )
$Departure Location: Hyperspace
$Departure Cue: ( false )
$Determination: 10
+Flags: ( "cargo-known" "player-start" )
+Flags2: ( )
+Respawn priority: 0
+Group: 0
+Use Table Score:
+Score: 8

$Name: Hostile ;! Object #1
$Class: GTVA Colossus
$Team: Hostile
$Location: 1454.423096, -88.798103, -2475.697510
$Orientation:
0.868151, 0.003227, -0.496323,
-0.056531, 0.994132, -0.092420,
0.493105, 0.108288, 0.863222
$AI Behavior: None
+AI Class: Major
$Cargo 1:  XSTR("Nothing", -1)
+Initial Hull: 100
+Subsystem: Pilot
+Subsystem: turret01a
+Subsystem: turret02a
+Subsystem: turret03a
+Subsystem: turret04a
+Subsystem: turret05a
+Subsystem: turret06a
+Subsystem: turret07a
+Subsystem: turret08a
+Subsystem: turret09a
+Subsystem: turret10a
+Subsystem: turret11
+Subsystem: turret12
+Subsystem: turret13
+Subsystem: turret14
+Subsystem: turret15
+Subsystem: turret16
+Subsystem: turret17
+Subsystem: turret18
+Subsystem: turret19
+Subsystem: turret20
+Subsystem: turret21
+Subsystem: turret22
+Subsystem: turret23
+Subsystem: turret24
+Subsystem: turret25
+Subsystem: turret26
+Subsystem: turret27
+Subsystem: turret28
+Subsystem: turret29
+Subsystem: turret30
+Subsystem: turret31
+Subsystem: turret32
+Subsystem: turret33
+Subsystem: turret34
+Subsystem: turret35
+Subsystem: turret36
+Subsystem: turret37
+Subsystem: turret38
+Subsystem: turret39
+Subsystem: turret40
+Subsystem: turret41
+Subsystem: turret42
+Subsystem: turret43
+Subsystem: turret44
+Subsystem: turret45
+Subsystem: turret46
+Subsystem: turret47
+Subsystem: turret48
+Subsystem: turret49
+Subsystem: turret50
+Subsystem: turret51
+Subsystem: turret52
+Subsystem: turret53
+Subsystem: turret54
+Subsystem: turret55
+Subsystem: turret56
+Subsystem: turret57
+Subsystem: turret58
+Subsystem: turret59
+Subsystem: turret60
+Subsystem: turret61
+Subsystem: turret62
+Subsystem: turret63
$Arrival Location: Hyperspace
$Arrival Cue: ( true )
$Departure Location: Hyperspace
$Departure Cue: ( false )
$Determination: 10
+Flags: ( "invulnerable" )
+Flags2: ( )
+Respawn priority: 0
+Group: 0
+Score: 670

$Name: Friendly ;! Object #2
$Class: SJ Sathanas
$Team: Friendly
$Location: -1566.918823, -12.300336, 800.078491
$Orientation:
0.912870, -0.050919, -0.405069,
0.047844, 0.998700, -0.017718,
0.405444, -0.003206, 0.914117
$AI Behavior: None
$AI Goals: ( goals ( ai-chase "Hostile" 50 ) )
$Cargo 1:  XSTR("Nothing", -1)
+Initial Hull: 100
+Subsystem: Pilot
+Subsystem: turret01
+Subsystem: turret02
+Subsystem: turret03
+Subsystem: turret04
+Subsystem: turret05
+Subsystem: turret06
+Subsystem: turret07
+Subsystem: turret08
+Subsystem: turret09
+Subsystem: turret10
+Subsystem: turret11
+Subsystem: turret12
+Subsystem: turret13
+Subsystem: turret14
+Subsystem: turret15
+Subsystem: turret16
+Subsystem: turret17
+Subsystem: turret18
+Subsystem: turret19
+Subsystem: turret20
+Subsystem: turret21
+Subsystem: turret22
+Subsystem: turret23
+Subsystem: turret24
+Subsystem: turret25
+Subsystem: turret26
+Subsystem: turret27
+Subsystem: turret28
+Subsystem: turret29
+Subsystem: turret30
+Subsystem: turret31
+Subsystem: turret32
+Subsystem: turret33
+Subsystem: turret34
+Subsystem: turret35
+Subsystem: turret36
+Subsystem: turret37
+Subsystem: turret38
+Subsystem: turret39
+Subsystem: turret40
+Subsystem: turret41
+Subsystem: turret42
+Subsystem: turret43
+Subsystem: turret44
+Subsystem: turret45
+Subsystem: turret46
+Subsystem: turret47
+Subsystem: turret48
+Subsystem: turret49
+Subsystem: turret50
+Subsystem: turret51
+Subsystem: turret52
+Subsystem: turret53
$Arrival Location: Hyperspace
$Arrival Cue: ( true )
$Departure Location: Hyperspace
$Departure Cue: ( false )
$Determination: 10
+Flags: ( "cargo-known" "invulnerable" )
+Flags2: ( )
+Respawn priority: 0
+Group: 0
+Use Table Score:
+Score: 10000

#Wings ;! 0 total

#Events ;! 2 total

$Formula: ( when
   ( true )
   ( beam-free-all
      "Hostile"
      "Friendly"
   )
   ( turret-free-all "Hostile" )
)
+Name: Event name
+Repeat Count: 1
+Interval: 1
+Team: 2113

$Formula: ( when
   ( true )
   ( ship-effect
      "Cloak"
      8000
      "Friendly"
   )
)
+Name: Event name
+Repeat Count: 1
+Interval: 1
+Chained: 5
+Team: 0

#Goals ;! 0 total


#Waypoints ;! 0 lists total


#Messages ;! 0 total


#Reinforcements ;! 0 total


#Background bitmaps ;! 1 total

$Num stars: 500
$Ambient light level: 7895160

$Bitmap List:
$Sun: SunWhite
+Angles: 1.570795 0.000000 0.000000
+Scale: 1.000000
$Starbitmap: PlanetH
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 4.712385
+ScaleX: 8.000000
+ScaleY: 8.000000
+DivX: 1
+DivY: 1

#Asteroid Fields

#Music

$Event Music: None
$Briefing Music: None

#End


[Commander Zane]

I certainly look foward to it then, since 11.7 didn't change anything either.
So far, 5870s can't take the effects on any driver.

[Valathil]

Swifty told me he had the same problem when implementing his soft particles. He solved it by delaying the rendering of the sprites to the end of the pipeline. My thrusters however were drawn right when the model was drawn so this apparently caused it. I dont know WHY it happens i just know i have to delay the rendering to fix it. Something ATI weird is the cause.

[Valathil]

Please let this be it: http://www.mediafire.com/?0i5ji1p3wk52202

oh and one thing the thrusterglows are now distorted by the framebuffer as well id like to know if this is visually better than before.

[Commander Zane]

I'll take a look at it, probably once I'm done watching Priest.
(Pretty good so far)

[Bobboau]

oh, if that's the cause, then now would be a good time to move the thruster rendering into a geometry batcher, I had done this once before, but it got reverted IIRC, it provided a noticeable performance gain as well.

[Valathil]

swifty did that but only for primaries and tertiary thruster glows. cause secondaries never intersect with the ship he apparently thought he wouldnt need to make them soft. so when i did the thruster distortions i used the same instant drawing code as the secondaries and that apparently doesnt quite work with ati cards.

[Commander Zane]

The artifacts have finally ceased to be!


However another contender appears to laugh at our face...
Though I'm still rolled back so I can go back to 11.8 to see what the difference is. Not all hope is lost (And much more is gained at this point).

[Valathil]

oh for fcks sake but at least i know whats wrong

[Bobboau]

looks like everything behind the poly has been double drawn.

[Valathil]

yeah cause sprites are normally additive blended and for distortions you have to turn that off. i do turn it off for the thrusters but the shockwaves still use the old geometry batcher not my new distortion only one so bang everything gets doubled

[Bobboau]

well, at least that's an easy fix.

[Valathil]

Here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?z2d987qwntmhnpw

I actually added back the old shockwaves in addition to the new framebuffer effect let me know what you think of the combination

[Commander Zane]

You have no idea how many Internets you deserve.
No artifacts, no boxes, nothing.

I'm looking at nothing but awesome now.
Nighteye's shockwaves with this effect looks damn good.