[General Battuta]

Not yet, but give it a roll anyway. We're working on it.

[Leuthesius]

I'm loving it so far, but I'm having some major fps issues when the frigates are in play. ... is there a way to fix that?


I'm running Intel integrated HD graphics accelerator
800x600 with trilinear texture filter and 16 bit
and I was set to medium but dropping it to low.

[Scotty]

No.

[General Battuta]

I'm loving it so far, but I'm having some major fps issues when the frigates are in play. ... is there a way to fix that?

Not yet. We're working on it.

[Leuthesius]

Nuts.

Oh well, I'm loving the story thus far.

[Leuthesius]

sexp-add-sun-bitmap: Sun SunSol not found!
ntdll.dll! NtWaitForSingleObject + 21 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObjectEx + 67 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>


Received this bug while in the mission with the space psychologist with all the trippy images.

[General Battuta]

sexp-add-sun-bitmap: Sun SunSol not found!
ntdll.dll! NtWaitForSingleObject + 21 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObjectEx + 67 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>


Received this bug while in the mission with the space psychologist with all the trippy images.

Well that's a new one on me.  Could you run the mission in debug and post another log?

That should not be happening. Why would that be happening? blehhhh

[Leuthesius]

General and Blue Planet team. I ****ing <3 you guys.

Neomi, your heart rate is increasing. Would you like to see a picture of kittens?

LOLOLOLOLOL OMG GOLD.

I'm going to have to re-run tha tmission later. It didn't kill the game, just sorta bugged.
Man, I'm sorry, but this game becomes completely unplayable with the assault on Carthage mission. I can handle the crazy FPS lag when there one or two ships in one direction, but you spend this entire mission with on in your viewing area 90% of the time. You cannot see anything long enough to get through it. :/

Is there a way to shut off the rotation on the Frigates? That's got to be what causes the lag.... and also, the rotatyness is cool, but is it totally necessary if its a lag problem? Seems more asthetic than purpose, considering the GTA had grav-decks even during the Terran Vasudan War...

I've made four attempts at this mission. Each one ended exactly the same. I could not maneuver because of fps lag and thus was unable to take out beam turrets and thus lost the katana. Balls. :/

Any idea how long its gonna take to fix this little bug? Because I'm going to have to shelf it until its fixed.

[The E]

The rotation stuff is in no way responsible for the FPS penalty Karuna frigates incur (How did you come to that conclusion anyway?), it's the fact that the Karuna uses somewhere over 30 textures, and a high number of render passes to fully render.

What you could try is to use a nightly build. We have made quite a few improvements to render performance, they could help you out a bit. But in the end, an Intel graphics chip is just ****; there isn't much we can do about that.

[Leuthesius]

Well that could be a big chunk of it. While playing AoA, I had some slog there too. But I couldnt figure out how to render the ships not-so-much while also maintaining a quality of play that didn't involve shooting at giant blocks.

... Man, for an i7 modern computer, it sure sucks it up when it comes to even mostly 10+ year old graphics... I cannot wait until I get my desktop back. :'(

[Jeff Vader]

... Man, for an i7 modern computer, it sure sucks it up when it comes to even mostly 10+ year old graphics...

10+ year old graphics
WiH year old graphics

[Leuthesius]

A very good point. I shut rendering off though (finally found it) and the lag is significantly less  whenever a Frigate is in my view screen.

[The E]

What do you mean, "shut rendering off"? What exactly did you do?

[Leuthesius]

sexp-add-sun-bitmap: Sun SunSol not found!
ntdll.dll! NtWaitForSingleObject + 21 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObjectEx + 67 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>



sexp-add-sun-bitmap: Sun SunSol not found!
ntdll.dll! NtWaitForSingleObject + 21 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObjectEx + 67 bytes
kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe! <no symbol>






Ok, I don't know how I did it but I finally "won". If you can call it that. I guess the probability engine decided it was time for me to go to the next part.


And by the way.... phenomenal storyline. Neomi is my herro.


@ The E

Features --> Troubleshoot --> Disable OpenGL Render Targets.

I still hit as low as 5.5 fps when staring at multiple Frigs, but if its just one or two theres almost no lag at all.

[The E]

Could you please post a full fs2_open.log? There's something wrong with your install, I'd like to know what.

[Leuthesius]

Code: [Select]

==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.12
Passed cmdline options:
  -spec_exp 8.2
  -spec_static 3.5
  -spec_point 8.6
  -spec_tube 1.0
  -ambient_factor 70
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -targetinfo
  -ship_choice_3d
  -weapon_choice_3d
  -snd_preload
  -mod Mods\blueplanet2,blueplanet,mediavps_3612
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-adv-visuals.vp' with a checksum of 0x2fa0cebd
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-audio1.vp' with a checksum of 0x60465ead
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' with a checksum of 0x24b50f90
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' with a checksum of 0x5d4c1bfb
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' with a checksum of 0x8fea63ef
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0x4b8b0f5a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' with a checksum of 0x6a554026
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x59649c21
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0x529cc70f
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x9c510aa0
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xfb5c022f
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0xb3e21469
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' with a checksum of 0x31dd7781
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x7c9d7e74
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' with a checksum of 0x6ffd5c78
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\' ... 2 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-adv-visuals.vp' ... 23 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-audio1.vp' ... 154 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' ... 61 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' ... 660 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Mods\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' ... 1976 files
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\blueplanet\' ... 0 files
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 1283 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' ... 1641 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' ... 228 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1905 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' ... 2 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' ... ERROR: ERANGE: String error. Please Report.
Trying to put into 32 byte buffer:
ÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌÌ.
File: cfilesystem.cpp
Line: 719
Int3(): From c:\temp\fs2_final_export\code\globalincs\windebug.cpp at line 1155

[The E]

Is that an old log? Because that one has so many things wrong with it that you CAN'T play WiH, much less reach Delenda Est. Please generate a new one.

[General Battuta]

(don't mind him, there's a heart of gold down there)

[Leuthesius]

Bear with me. Mods and I get along just long enough for me to play through them [sometimes] before they asplode in my face.

And that's the only log I've got. ... :/

[Jeff Vader]

And that's the only log I've got. ... :/

Well, you could always try the following:
- open the Launcher
- switch your build to fs2_open_3_6_12d_INF_SSE2.exe
- apply the changes, start the game and try to get to the main hall
- quit

Ta-dah. You should now have a brand-new, shiny fs2_open.log!