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Offline Gray113

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Qent

Sorry I should have been clearer I ment a novice to the dreamscape in that her mind would take time to adapt to accessing information on the network just like it takes time to learn any new skill. Perhaps given time she could learn everything she needed from the other fedayeen however at this time they had to give her the best wingmen to fly with and hope for the best.

 

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Oh.... Yes, that's a possibility.

 

Offline fightermedic

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Glad you enjoyed it!

The voice acting is pretty much the best we can get.

the voice acting is very very good, and nothing short of that
considering this is a fan project it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!

and this is coming from a person who does not even play anything that is not voice acted, i'm very sensitive on this topic ;)

can't wait for the day when you finally will have completed the acting for war in heaven, so i can finally play it :D hurry up lads ;)
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Offline Apollo

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The Morena is by no means a well armed destroyer, the gunships will lose to a single Cretheus, and the fighters are so bad Sergei looks good flying a Ulysses (50 years old, remember).
The Morena and its escorts are pathetic compared to modern military warships, but they still pose a significant threat to the Vindicator.

Anyway, feelings are generally divorced from logic. One Future may not be an Alpha 1 mission, but It felt like one, and tbh that's one of my favorite things about it.
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Re: WiH Act 3: Review, Thoughts, I cannot find words for this story...!SPOILERS!
I'm procrastinating horribly for something right now so I arced back around here and found WiH P3 was out!

God damn that was incredible. Also, some of those missions were incredibly tough!

 

Offline Aesaar

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The Morena and its escorts are pathetic compared to modern military warships, but they still pose a significant threat to the Vindicator.
That it takes a cruiser to make the Morena look threatening is ample proof of how pathetic a destroyer it really is.

And when I say the Ancamnas will lose to a Cretheus, I mean that one Cretheus will happily take on three Ancamnas at once and come out on top.

 

Offline Apollo

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Well, to be fair the Vindicator is probably the best cruiser ever made other than the Lilith. Its Arquebus is the most powerful anti-warship weapon in the UEF's arsenal, and it has a whole bunch of special abilites.

But yeah, the Morena is pretty bad. I thought it had a fairly heavy armament because of its Ousters, but it looks like they were nerfed hard for Tenebra (they used to be as powerful as the Solaris's Apocalypse laucnhers).
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Offline General Battuta

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Well, to be fair the Vindicator is probably the best cruiser ever made other than the Lilith. Its Arquebus is the most powerful anti-warship weapon in the UEF's arsenal, and it has a whole bunch of special abilites.

But yeah, the Morena is pretty bad. I thought it had a fairly heavy armament because of its Ousters, but it looks like they were nerfed hard for Tenebra (they used to be as powerful as the Solaris's Apocalypse laucnhers).

Ousters never existed in any meaningful way before Tenebra.

 

Offline Apollo

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They were in the tables, just unused.

EDIT: Oh and it seems like the Solaris's Gattler Turrets are about twice as powerful now. A lot of things got rebalanced.
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Offline General Battuta

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They were in the tables, just unused.

Like I said, did not exist in any meaningful way. A development placeholder is pretty meaningless.

 
Re: WiH Act 3: Review, Thoughts, I cannot find words for this story...!SPOILERS!
Where the hell is Act 3. I can't seem to find it anywhere to download.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Where the hell is Act 3. I can't seem to find it anywhere to download.

Pinned right at the top of this board? http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70745.0

 
Re: WiH Act 3: Review, Thoughts, I cannot find words for this story...!SPOILERS!
Yeah I know that. I download the complete package or the Standalone installer for War in Heaven, but it only installs act 1 and 2. Act 3 is nowhere to be found.

 

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Yeah I know that. I download the complete package or the Standalone installer for War in Heaven, but it only installs act 1 and 2. Act 3 is nowhere to be found.

Haha, another casualty of confusing nomenclature, I think. You should see two campaign files in the Campaign Room (in addition to FS2 Default and The Blade Itself) - War in Heaven Part 1 and War in Heaven Part 2.

Part 1 contains Acts 1 and 2, Part 2 contains Act 3.

 
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Part 2 didn't seem like it contained it. I just finished part 2 and it took me back to the main menu.

 

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Part 2 didn't seem like it contained it. I just finished part 2 and it took me back to the main menu.

What was the last mission you played?

 
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Sunglare. Now Icarus.

 

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Then you just finished Act1 and 2, and you are starting Act3.
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Re: WiH Act 3: Review, Thoughts, I cannot find words for this story...!SPOILERS!
Yeah I just figured that out last night. .-.

 
Re: WiH Act 3: Review, Thoughts, I cannot find words for this story...!SPOILERS!
well, to his defense, that destroyer could win 1v1 against karuna (fred-wise)
those missiles are really nasty :)

Yep. Despite being an unpredictable wreck, the Morena actually has a very heavy armament (by the standards of the UEF). If it wasn't for that reactor vulnerability fighting it would have been extremely difficult.

One Future is no more an Alpha 1 mission than TBI is.

It depends on your perspective. Logically, everything that happens in One Future makes sense, but it still feels like an Alpha 1 mission. TBI never felt like that.

The Morena's problem is its reactor vulnerability. Aside from that, it's a very high-maintenance destroyer (if a quite outdated one) that lacks a real fighterbay. The Morena could engage three FS1 Orions at once and win handily, with the only real hope for the Orions being their numerous fighter/bomber wings. If the Morena got its own fighter support, things get very messy. The Ouster alone is orders of magnitude better than the TT1 as an anti-ship weapon. The numerous mass drivers just seal the deal.

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TBI doesn't feel like an Alpha 1 mission at all because you're struggling to just survive and save as many of your people as you can from an overwhelming surprise attack. The mission proper starts with your home 'base' being blown up as you frantically try to run away from the blast. One Future has you in a super-prototype against a destroyer, a few wings of fighters/bombers, and potentially two gunboats, all while under a strict time limit to stop Armageddon, kill all the terrorists once and for all, almost by yourself in a ship of a type and class you've never even seen before. It's not so much that it's *actually* Alpha-1 style as that it almost inevitably *feels* like that style, even if logically/narrative-wise it clearly isn't. HFH avoids the problem entirely by making your success all about being pinpoint-accurate vector for subtly turning a battle around over time, using the assets at your disposal to do much of the work and striking the crucial blow with a substantial force prepared by and maintained by an ally. You are carefully picking your shots, sniping or designating specific targets at specific times to turn the tide, not win the battle. One Future involves you pretty much doing everything yourself, short of boarding the command habitat yourself (a task that the Andex team said was surprisingly easy). The timer is by far the biggest obstacle in this mission, even thought the battle involves you versus the core of Kostadin Cell's power (you kill a destroyer by yourself in a few minutes, in a light cruiser! No matter how advanced, the mission is going to feel Alpha-1ish, which isn't necessarily a bad thing--just look at the Prometheus missions in WoD).
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