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Title: old games on new comp
Post by: Topgun on November 18, 2007, 10:13:46 am
is their any way run old games on a new computer? like an emulater or something? I disabled directx accel and it helped with the crazy fps, but it still crashes alot.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: ARSPR on November 18, 2007, 11:16:08 am
Well here you have the FREE emulators I know:

+ Old PC games (DOS emulator): DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net)

+ SCUMM emulator for LucasArts (and others) graphical adventures: ScummVM (http://www.scummvm.org/)
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Topgun on November 18, 2007, 12:25:27 pm
I was thinking of something more on the lines of -makes my comp work like an older p2 300mhz rather then a 2ghz d-core-.
like some sorta hardware -> software wraper thing.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Sarafan on November 18, 2007, 12:58:59 pm
Well here you have the FREE emulators I know:

+ Old PC games (DOS emulator): DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net)

+ SCUMM emulator for LucasArts (and others) graphical adventures: ScummVM (http://www.scummvm.org/)

DOSBox is a must! :yes:
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Flaser on November 18, 2007, 02:46:34 pm
We can't give a definite answer.

It really depends on what kind of game (Dos or Win9x) you're trying to run.
Dosbox was already mentioned. I usually don't have trouble with earlier windows titles (Heavy Gear 2, Wipeout XP/2097 nonwidstanding).

For DOS games beside Dosbox I use the VDMSound emulator that emulates an old soundcard, and also configures memory management in a manner that's really DOS-game friendly. (Ergo with one click I run an old title that would take a lot of messing around its memory setting otherwise).
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: CP5670 on November 18, 2007, 04:03:47 pm
Are these DOS or Windows games? The methods for getting them to work are quite different.

I don't recommend VDMSound since it has timer glitches that cause FM music to play at variable speeds, and it is basically defunct, with the last update done in something like 2002. The one reason to use it in the past was speed, as Dosbox could be too slow on some games, but the 0.7 versions of Dosbox are very fast on the dynamic core and run everything I've tried flawlessly, including several of the newer protected mode DOS games from the mid 90s (Doom/Descent era).
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Topgun on November 18, 2007, 06:04:56 pm
win95
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: IceFire on November 18, 2007, 09:23:11 pm
Lets be specific please :)
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: jr2 on November 18, 2007, 10:01:22 pm
There's always MS Virtual PC 2007.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Tyrian on November 18, 2007, 10:11:30 pm
If the problem you're having is that the games run at seemingly 2x normal speed, that's being caused by your dual core processor.  To fix that, you need to go to the Task Manager, find the matching process, right click it, click "Set Affinity...", and then deselect all but one CPU.  That's the only problem I've ever encountered with regards to getting old games to run on a dual core system with XP.  (Which I assume you're using.)

If you use Vista, then that's probably your problem there.  Try one of the compatibility modes then.  It might or might not work.  (I tried the Vista compatibility modes with Morrowind and it actually made the problems worse, though.  Go M$... :rolleyes:)
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Nuke on November 19, 2007, 02:29:23 am
ive had better luck with win95 games than i do with alot of directx 6 and 7 era games. i recently found a patch for the mechwarrior 2 titanium pack that makes the game run in vista with full on 3d support. ive been able to run hellbender as well. the instaler didnt like vista much, but i installed on xp and copied the files over to vista and the game worked somewhat ok. i had some problem getting joysticks to work but it was playable. decent2 win95 doesnt seem to work but thats easily fixed with d2x-xl or d2x. all the id games from that era (doom, quake) work perfectly. 

perhaps if you named the game we could help?
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Topgun on November 19, 2007, 02:54:08 pm
sorry about the other post. I had to scram and didn't have time time to post much.
anyway, one of the games I am trying to get to work is Lucasarts's Rouge Squadron 3D. it's for win98 I think. it works with the directx accel turned off untill I beat the mission, then it crashes. I think it might be due to system specs being about 20 times better then recomended  :lol:. you guys seem to say that the speed doesn't really matter so I guess I don't know what I am talking about. It might be due to d-core stuff like tyrian said. I dunno.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: redsniper on November 19, 2007, 03:25:27 pm
get an n64 emulator and play that version instead.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: jr2 on November 19, 2007, 09:23:36 pm
I have the Rogue Squadron... it kept crashing on me, too... grrr... I was going to try the N64 version; what's the best emulator for N64 out there?
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: redsniper on November 20, 2007, 01:25:37 pm
pj64 works pretty well for me. handles Goldeneye and PD.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Wobble73 on November 21, 2007, 10:56:33 am
There's also mupen64 and 1964 both of which work quite well!
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 22, 2007, 08:00:22 pm
Rogue Squadron works fine on new my PC. XP Pro, 1.5 Ghz P4, Radeon 9550. What problems are you having, exactly?
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Wobble73 on November 23, 2007, 03:20:42 am
It may be the plug-ins you are using, try Jabosound and Jabodirect plugin's I find they work quite well on my computer! :yes:
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 23, 2007, 03:29:44 am
CPU Killer, google it, shjould slow your comp down, why you'd want to i dunno :p
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Topgun on November 23, 2007, 12:56:04 pm
Rogue Squadron works fine on new my PC. XP Pro, 1.5 Ghz P4, Radeon 9550. What problems are you having, exactly?
I have 2.1 ghz 2core and 8700 GT. I said that I was having framrate problems untill I turned off directx accel. then it crashed on me whenever I beat a mission.

PS: I use project 64 1.6 it works great :yes:
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 23, 2007, 01:38:30 pm
Well mine isn't exactly new, but I don't know why these problems arise. My video card is only 3 years old and it works great with RS. I'm not the person to ask, though.
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: Davros on November 25, 2007, 04:03:53 pm
any problems go here:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/

V.O.G.O.N.S
Very Old Games On New Machines
Title: Re: old games on new comp
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 25, 2007, 04:36:08 pm
Shouldn't that be Very Old Games On New Systems?