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Title: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: An4ximandros on September 01, 2013, 08:42:06 pm
http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/1/4684456/gearbox-homeworld-ip-hardware-shipbreakers


Now that I have your attention, What do you think about this?

Since it's essentially the Kharakian wars... I wonder if with the support they'd leave that Fecebook garbage behind and use another service...
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Scourge of Ages on September 01, 2013, 09:23:30 pm
First impressions: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84189.0

Footage impressions: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84692.0

Now that I have your attention, http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85089.0

OK, now we're updatated.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Polpolion on September 01, 2013, 09:30:42 pm
So this is the same exact game as before, except with Homeworld names sprinkled in everywhere? This had me so excited until I started reading things, please don't do this to me. :(
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 02, 2013, 12:55:47 pm
This is one more reason to utterly destroy copyright legislation as it stands.

What an abomination.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: The E on September 02, 2013, 01:21:34 pm
The capacity of gamers for preemptive disappointment never fails to amaze.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 02, 2013, 01:23:54 pm
I really don't expect anything of value to come from this.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 02, 2013, 03:02:55 pm
yeah the_e it'll probably completely avoid all of the endemic and fundamental problems of the f2p facebook game model and be brilliant, we should stop being such haters
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Polpolion on September 02, 2013, 03:13:59 pm
yeah the_e it'll probably completely avoid all of the endemic and fundamental problems of the f2p facebook game model and be brilliant, we should stop being such haters

To be fair I haven't seen any official source saying that there would even be facebook integration, but what with the whole MWO fiasco a f2p game in another one of my favorite universes isn't exactly high on my wishlist.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Scotty on September 02, 2013, 05:16:39 pm
MWO failed because PGI is bad at user feedback.

Gearbox isn't that terrible, at least as far as I'd heard.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 02, 2013, 05:46:19 pm
Shipbreakers isn't being made by Gearbox.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: The E on September 03, 2013, 08:43:24 am
yeah the_e it'll probably completely avoid all of the endemic and fundamental problems of the f2p facebook game model and be brilliant, we should stop being such haters

Oh hey, look at that (https://twitter.com/duvalmagic/status/374575147547496448)

Shorter version: Gearbox will give them money so it doesn't have to be f2p anymore
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: An4ximandros on September 03, 2013, 08:55:36 am

YES! YES! YES!

Thank you, The E!
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Polpolion on September 03, 2013, 09:21:22 am


Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: MatthTheGeek on September 03, 2013, 11:38:50 am
It is good to see the license reunite with the talents that suits it best. Something to look forward to.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 03, 2013, 11:50:01 am
That's actually a pretty great outcome.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Scourge of Ages on September 03, 2013, 01:02:24 pm
Optimism levels: spiking
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: The E on September 03, 2013, 01:12:19 pm
Here's their official announcement from PAX: http://www.twitch.tv/pax/b/455394585 go to 5:28:00 for Homeworld and Shipbreakers stuff.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 04, 2013, 08:43:40 am
That video ain't working...
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: The E on September 04, 2013, 08:50:27 am
I'm sure someone will eventually cut the relevant portions out of the stream and repost them to youtube.

There's also going to be a big "Community Day" for Gearbox sometime in September where we'll get more info.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 04, 2013, 08:57:12 am
I'm actually looking forward to all of the HD versions of HW, I'll buy those in an instant in Steam.

This "Shipbreakers" "HW3" or wtv stuff... heh. I don't trust these guys to make the proper sequel. I just can't take away the cynic in me I guess.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: StarSlayer on September 04, 2013, 09:12:07 am
Saw it, found it pretty interesting.  I wonder if they will be keeping with the mysterious graveyard salvage planet story or completely rework it to take place on Kharak with competing Kiths.  Either way going full commercial and not some FTP Facebook game sounds great to me.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: An4ximandros on September 04, 2013, 09:16:17 am
You don't trust the majority of the people who created the Homeworld franchise to make a Homeworld prequel with the money Gearbox is throwing at them?
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 04, 2013, 10:20:18 am
They did a pretty impressive job of ****ing up the sequel, so no.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: BritishShivans on September 04, 2013, 11:37:39 am
Well, yeah. Homeworld 2 was an awful ****ing sequel. Why are people so optimistic? We don't know, but given how HW2 turned out, I expect it to have a radius where everything in the center is quality, and the farther you go from the center, the ****tier it gets, just like HW2.

Seriously people, optimism is cool and all, but we have no reason to think that it's gonna be all high-quality and everything. Again, it's probably going to be in the middle.

But if it does turn out awesome, then color me pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: MatthTheGeek on September 04, 2013, 11:44:00 am
They did a pretty impressive job of ****ing up the sequel, so no.
They didn't. Sierra did, when they told them to scrap Dust Wars and restart from scratch with a quarter of the dev time left.

You should look up some information before criticizing people who did an excellent job given the terrible conditions that had to work in. And I suggest you apologize.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Polpolion on September 04, 2013, 11:52:31 am
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We don't know, but given how HW2 turned out, I expect it to have a radius where everything in the center is quality, and the farther you go from the center, the ****tier it gets, just like HW2.

The hell does this even mean? Homeworld 2 wasn't even that bad. It was no HW or HW:C but it was still worth picking up for 20 dollars, especially with all the mods that are lying around. And I have no reason to believe that these people will make the same mistakes that made HW2 not quite as good as it should've been.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 04, 2013, 11:57:10 am
They did a pretty impressive job of ****ing up the sequel, so no.
They didn't. Sierra did, when they told them to scrap Dust Wars and restart from scratch with a quarter of the dev time left.

You should look up some information before criticizing people who did an excellent job given the terrible conditions that had to work in. And I suggest you apologize.

Still doesn't mean I trust them.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Scotty on September 04, 2013, 12:02:48 pm
Reason for distrust revealed to be misinformation or outright falsehood.

Still distrusts.

Yeah.  Making lots of sense there.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: An4ximandros on September 04, 2013, 12:18:07 pm
It's like how I know any Freespace game made by Volition would be crap⸮ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation)
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 04, 2013, 12:25:26 pm
"... and I suggest you apologize"

Wait what? To whom? Come on, I understand if people get annoyed because I and others are being less than optimistic, but isn't this thread just going down the busters too fast?

I make a peace offer: I hereby proclaim my hope that the game turns out good, if not great. I won't further share what I believe it will turn out to be, in fact.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: StarSlayer on September 04, 2013, 12:33:08 pm
"... and I suggest you apologize"

Wait what? To whom? Come on, I understand if people get annoyed because I and others are being less than optimistic, but isn't this thread just going down the busters too fast?

I make a peace offer: I hereby proclaim my hope that the game turns out good, if not great. I won't further share what I believe it will turn out to be, in fact.

I think he was specifically referring to Phantom claiming the developers were colossal **** ups when Sierra seems to own the blame for HW2's shortcomings.  Out of curiosity I did a little research into the original Dust Wars concept for HW2 and it does seem rather intriguing.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 04, 2013, 12:53:14 pm
I didn't claim the devs were colossal **** ups, although maybe I was too provocative with the language used. I appreciate that they were working under difficult conditions, but the fact remains that the game they produced was a very disappointing follow-up to homeworld, so I don't accept that they'll produce a worthy sequel this time (especially since they're working under highly unusual conditions again).
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Luis Dias on September 04, 2013, 01:30:26 pm
I knew what he was referring to. It just seems ridiculous to me to someone here demanding someone else to make an apology to a third party... that is nowhere near here.... for having a negative opinion on the prospects of a certain project.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: StarSlayer on September 04, 2013, 01:40:52 pm
I assumed he was merely joking, since it is ridiculous.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: BritishShivans on September 04, 2013, 10:41:43 pm
The hell does this even mean? Homeworld 2 wasn't even that bad. It was no HW or HW:C but it was still worth picking up for 20 dollars, especially with all the mods that are lying around. And I have no reason to believe that these people will make the same mistakes that made HW2 not quite as good as it should've been.

Sorry man, I was a bit tired when I wrote that post. I had a point somewhere but it was lost in incoherency.
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 04, 2013, 11:00:40 pm
Any word on the other two coming to digital distribution? They were talking about it...
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: BritishShivans on September 05, 2013, 12:15:47 am
That's something I was wondering about, too. I'm not really all that interested in Shipbreakers: I'm more interested in the HD remakes. There been any new information?
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: AtomicClucker on September 05, 2013, 12:48:48 am
It's like how I know any Freespace game made by Volition would be crap⸮ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation)

After seeing SR IV I'd be terrified combining the "Gloriously Stupidly Good" with Shivans.

As for Hardware, I was actually hoping for a Homeworld inspired setting and game that could stand on its own two feet, problem is that they fell short of the mark with a number of minor things (such as stupid funding plans). Truthfully, I want a fudging proper Homeworld game IN SPACE!
Title: Re: New BBI Homeworld
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 05, 2013, 03:26:34 am
Homeworld with cars = ground control.

I'm curious, but not enthralled, and I was playing homeworld off the bat since the demo that shipped with Half-Life.