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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
While criticism of the ending is welcome (especially on first playthrough!), you're wrong on a few counts.

1) The GTVA had certainly sent probes into the system. In all likelihood it also sent SOC teams to do physical scouting and eavesdrop on transmissions.

2) The Renjian's jump drives hadn't had time to recharge. In any case, the ship's captain must have known they were doomed and simply decided to go down fighting.

3) You need to turn the difficulty up; low difficulty handicaps friendly beams.

I'm not a member of the BP team in any creative capacity; I just handle voice acting. Darius, who does all the creative stuff, is very happy to get feedback. However, the first point has been oft debated here, and the last two are just misunderstandings/technical problems on your end.

To be honest, I remember feeling the same kind of shock the first time I played through. "That didn't make sense," I thought. "How contrived!"

But the more times I've replayed AoA, the more I've realized how closely it fits with the themes of the campaign. It's foreshadowed time and again, and more importantly, it sets up what looks like a truly epic sequel.
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Offline Darius

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...

A few relatively minor script changes would make the end more believable:
A more direct statement of the GTVA intention to annex, the GTVA should fire warning shots before directly attacking, and should repeat their surrender and boarding demand.
The warning shots could be the trigger for the ship to return fire, and it then should be destroyed almost immediately.

That's actually a really cool idea :) Wish I'd thought of it beforehand. It's probably too late to change the ending like that without it seeming like retconning. :P

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
The ending didn't make much sense for me either... =/ I'll see if I change my mind after a few more play troughs.

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
The ending didn't make much sense for me either... =/ I'll see if I change my mind after a few more play troughs.

You may be surprised, Pred, but I didn't like the ending at first. I initially thought that it was an excuse for Darius to make a sequel, but apparently, it isn't.

Speaking of which, does anyone notice that you can order the warships around on Journey's End?
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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
Is it even possible to give them commands?

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
Yep.

I remember, playing 'Argonautica' on Insane in a multiplayer co-op mission, I ordered an Aeolus to attack a Moloch instead of jumping out. As I recall, I think it worked.

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
Well his father did promise Sam a command once they were back in their own universe.. :nervous:  :nervous:

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
From a fighter? :lol:

BTW Darius,
This "我們是人的由於我們的人類"
Doesn't seem to make any sense...
Sorry for being off-topic, but that's also been nagging me for awhile. :P

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
Is it even possible to give them commands?

Yes. Play that mission again, target the Renjian and press C-1. ;)

Well his father did promise Sam a command once they were back in their own universe.. :nervous:  :nervous:

I assume that wasn't an oversight then. :drevil:
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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
1) The GTVA had certainly sent probes into the system. In all likelihood it also sent SOC teams to do physical scouting and eavesdrop on transmissions.
That wouldn't tell you much (if anything) about weapons capability, unless you were lucky enough to watch a live fire test. Military personnel tend to be pretty secretive about the capability of their armament!

Jump drives - fair point. It had only just jumped in.
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3) You need to turn the difficulty up; low difficulty handicaps friendly beams.
Ah yes - forgot I'd turned it down a bit.

Anyway, that will do. Darius has a couple of suggestions and can use them or not - the rest of the campaign was excellent, and I am very much looking forward to the sequel.

- I'm happy to beta test the new one, and even voice act if that's useful.
(I could probably talk my wife into helping if you need female voices)

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...

BTW Darius,
This "我們是人的由於我們的人類"
Doesn't seem to make any sense...


Yeah my Mandarin is poor to non-existent. I think I'll stick to using Pinyin.

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
I still think Renjian means man-sword.

 

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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
I thought this was covered last year. Darius says it means, "Man-world".
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Re: Something nagging me about the ending...
I thought this was covered last year. Darius says it means, "Man-world".
Sure, sure.

 

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Long live the sword of man! :nervous:
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