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Yeah, thats right. Go. Download. NOW
Holy sweet freaking monkey Jesus, is this game good. It's creepy, beautiful, scary.. Everything I hoped it would be. IF there is one complaint about the demo is, you don't get to take on a Big Daddy. But, you'll get too soon enough in the full game. Believe the hype, folks. This ****s for real.
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Where's the PC love? come on guys, release a demo for those of us who don't have a 360!!!
EDIT: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html) the first page explains why its not out yet.
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Huh, well that's actually a pretty good reason. Now I'm not mad anymore.
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Well, at least they're taking the time to optimize it. This game looks very promising, but I don't want to see yet another bloatware graphics engine, like pretty much everything else that has come out in the last year or two.
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Hmm well just hopes it works well on my computer otherwise I might use this as an excuse to buy a 360
/Dice
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How is it compared to the System Shocks so far?
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If anyone is curious, the release date for the PC edition should be on the 24th of August - in 10 days time from now. At least that's when GAME stores in the UK are set to get it (assuming the information is accurate).
Oh, found this info regarding the PC demo as well (the article was published today): http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/812/812733p1.html
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I'm just stopping by to say that BioShock is indeed TEH AWESOME. Best looking game yet, for sure. And crazy atmosphere.
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Meh, I don't need no stinkin' demo. I've had this baby preordered since January.
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:(
My computer needs to be like twice as good to play this. :(
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I wait a few weeks after release before buying any game these days, never mind preordering. I've seen too many disappointments lately. :p
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My system is basically one step above the min requirements :( But I refuse to buy it for consoles (let alone even buy a 360), so I guess I'll have to make do :(
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It's times like this that I curse my ****ty "can't-connect-to-the-360-for-some-stupid-reason" modem. :(
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10/10 (http://gameinformer.com/Games/Review/200709/R07.0814.1203.13551.htm) from GameInformer. Folks, this ****s for reals.
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A couple of points about that though:
Firstly - where are the shadows on the models?:
http://gameinformer.com/NR/rdonlyres/41497688-5BCB-4C0A-B952-A1B1440E2139/13098/BioshockTop1.jpg
Secondly - I've really started taking the opinions of games reviewers with more than a pinch of salt than ever. I can rely on them to tell me what I could do in a game - but I don't trust the opinion of whether it's any good or not. A case in point: I've seen far too many X Box 360 games with "Definitely a contender for game of the year, buy this now!! - Microsoft Magazine" and "It'll be some time before we see another game like this one - The Official X Box 360 Digest" etc. That is to say - of course a magazine written by Microsoft reviewing games on its own console system is going to rave about the ones it wants to sell well. Therefore can we really take that as the truth? Not necessarily.
That said - everyones been saying this is good, so I'm going to try it if nothing else!
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I don't think there are any sites these days that can be termed trustworthy on their own. I go by a combination of Metacritic (which gives the average score of 30 or so other sites) and user opinions on forums.
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Kal, go watch some of the videos here (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2610.html). And if you have a 360, get your download on for the demo STAT.
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I'll check out the videos but sadly I'm still waiting on the PC version - no XBox 360 for me! :(
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August 24th AU release?! ****ing A!!
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I wait a few weeks after release before buying any game these days, never mind preordering. I've seen too many disappointments lately. :p
99.99% of the time that's the approach I take. This is a rather large exception for me.
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I haven't pre-ordered a game since X-Wing Alliance! I wait till its well reviewed, or i just go buy it based on what I've read before (usually only the so called Triple A Titles). I don't get burned to often, most notably recently was STALKER, which while a good game just doesn't suit my game style. Bioshock really interests me, as i like System Shock 2, but also scares me cause i never finished SS2, and i really want to play the demo and see how it plays.
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BioShock up on STEAM for pre-purchase and download (http://www.steamgames.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=7670&cc=US) Also, PC demo to hit Friday (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48490)
And a really cool little bonus here. They released an art book free to download (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html). There is some very interesting things in it, so be sure to give it a read. Too bad they couldn't get this into the collectors edition...
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I predict this will game will raise hell on earth in the media, with all the killing children stuff.
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100% on MetaCritic
99.6% on GameRankings
New GOTG (game of the generation) confirmed.
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NOOOOO!!! STOP IT!!! I want to play it, but my computer wont let me!!! NOOO!!! *cries lots :( :( :(
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Buy a 360 or upgrade your computer. You MUST play this game.
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Meh...SS2 was great and scary...but the setting of Bioshock doesn't spark my interest...retro underwater city...meh
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Wha? Best game setting in a long, long time IMHO.
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The setting seems a bit wacky and unrealistic to me too, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's something different, and I like that.
So is the PC demo supposed to be coming today? It should be fun to try out, although I hope it's not loaded with Securom or other such stuff.
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Wha? Best game setting in a long, long time IMHO.
I'ts somewhat different..it's new...but that doens't automaticly mean it's the beast...or that it's great.
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FYI, the PC demo for this out. It was supposed to be a Fileplanet exclusive, but I'm guessing it's mirrored on other sites and torrents by now.
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Wow.
All I can say is wow.
Just purchased it off of steam, starting the preload.
The demo is just... wow.
Take System Shock 2, put it in a speeding train on fire about ready to run off a bridge and that's Bioshock's level of awesome.
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Told ya.
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Is it required to have Steam to play it?
Because I won't play it if I have to go through Steam.
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Having downloaded and installed the PC demo...
...very nice ambiance... that's graphics, scenery, sounds etc. The game engine runs like a dream.
That said, I found the layout of it all a little... how to put it... linear. It smacked of "get scared to go into a room, go into the room, deal with the threat, get scared to go into the next room, go into the next room" etc. etc. Also, sometimes there just seemed to be a bit too much going on.
I might be being cynical about it. It looks incredibly impressive and the plasmids are a neat addition (though they could be called magic or space suit addons or anything else in another game - they are at least well implemented). I'm excited but with aged cynicism!
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1.8GB for the demo when I saw it right. Well I know complete games that are smaller. How long is the demo? Is it worth the dl time?
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The demo was great. The artwork, sound effects and general atmosphere are outstanding. I especially love the weapon effects; the wrench really feels and sounds like something heavy and powerful. :yes: The amount of small detail in the levels is top notch. I spent a fair amount of time just examining the areas more closely before I moved on. This is also the first game I have played in over two years that actually seems to be well optimized and runs nicely. I was able to get a more or less constant 60fps, with a few minor exceptions, at 1024x768 with all the details turned up on my old X1900XTX.
That being said, it certainly doesn't strike me as the "OMG BEST GAME EVAR MADE!!1" that a lot of the review sites are saying. I'll definitely be buying this, but a number of aspects of the game leave something to be desired. In general, it has quite obviously been dumbed down for consoles. The levels are pretty linear and have minimal interactivity. I was hoping you could at least pick up objects. The graphics are rather inconsistent, with magnificent water and displacement mapping effects mixed with various low poly models and some textures that look like they're from the Quake 2 era. The gameplay is a little odd, as health is essentially infinite due to the respawning while ammo is difficult to come by (like SS2, but it doesn't really make sense). At least in the demo, I didn't see any evidence of the complex statistics and inventory systems that SS2 had, or the story detail and reading material of Deus Ex either.
Finally, it uses the Havok physics engine, and sure enough, I ran into a vibrating corpse at one point. :D
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Steam=Steaming POS
It claimed that the game was 100% preloaded, then after "decrypting" it turns out it's only 80% downloaded?
So I have to wait hours with a slow connection on an unstable server for the game to download fully?
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Yep, we had a thread about this recently. The main thing I took away from the discussion is that Steam is the future, so the future is retarded. :p
Anyways, I played the first few minutes of the demo (just got out of the bathysphere) and I'm already hooked. That little fly by (swim by?) intro was far more cinematic than many so-called 'cinematic' games get nowadays.
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BTW - for those complaining about linearity, the game opens up a whole lot more after the intro/tutorial, though to advance through the story it still is primarily linear.
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It's absolutely beautiful.
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BTW - for those complaining about linearity, the game opens up a whole lot more after the intro/tutorial, though to advance through the story it still is primarily linear.
That's good to know. Does the full version have more in the way of RPG-like stats? That was a key aspect of SS2 that didn't seem to be there at all in this demo, although that may have just been due to the short length.
I basically got the impression that this would be an excellent and highly polished game (which is good enough for me to buy it, although not immediately), but still essentially just a standard FPS and some ways below the all-time classics.
On a side note, the DX10 mode apparently looks identical to the DX9 one from what I'm reading, so if anyone was planning to switch to Vista just for this game, it's probably not worth it.
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It doesn't have stats save for health and 'eve,' but the gene tonics and plasmids allow for a lot of customization. Overall the gameplay of this is what I expected from Deus Ex 2 (which that game failed to deliver).
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Yes, there's actually quite a bit of customization. Instead of Traditional stats, you get Tonics, which are your passive abilities. You can use 6 (2 of each of 3 kinds) at first, but it seems to open up to 18 max.
You can always switch them out at a gene back, but you have to earn them or find them - you can buy them with Adam, find them laying around rapture, or earn them through research with the camera - at least, that's how I've found.
All sorts of neat stuff too - sort of like an all perk fallout. Or oblivion's skills without the numbers, just with the rank bonuses. Actually works quite nicely. You're not locked in like you were in the classics, but you never have enough slots for all possibile abilities.
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That sounds pretty good. I'll have to see it for myself.
By the way, the PC version has some Securom-based copy protection scheme that only allows two installs with internet authentication. :rolleyes: I'm not sure how you reactivate it after that, but the 2k forums are up in flames over this. I am still trying to figure out whether the exe is also bugged with the usual Securom rootkit installer, in which case I'm holding off purchasing it until the cracks start to roll out.
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It's 2 concurrent installs, actually, not 2 total. If you uninstall, if frees up an install.
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I'm also glad to see that apparently the full thing will be more "fledged out" than the demo. I guess it's hard to give us the full scope of the thing in such a relatively short space of time.
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It's 2 concurrent installs, actually, not 2 total. If you uninstall, if frees up an install.
That doesn't protect you against hard drive failures, especially if you have multiple computers like me and already use up the second slot. I think the Securom rootkit is more of a problem though. Apparently it does in fact use that. It's a good thing that there are ways around it.
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I don't care how good the game is, I'm not buying it with such draconian measures.
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First StarForce...now this...won't they EVER learn? :rolleyes:
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Supposedly, you can always call them and have it reactivated in the case of a hard disk failure and the like.
Is there a detector or anything out for that securom rootkit? I'd like to check and see if it exists.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182421
Thats all I am saying.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182421
Thats all I am saying.
That's ****in' cool.
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Okay, as good a game as BioShock is, the new Halo 3 footage has led me to retract my claim of GOTY/GOTG for BioShock.
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Supposedly, you can always call them and have it reactivated in the case of a hard disk failure and the like.
Is there a detector or anything out for that securom rootkit? I'd like to check and see if it exists.
There is a program to detect the rootkit, but I don't remember exactly what it's called. I think someone mentioned it in here (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=80&threadid=2072516&enterthread=y).
In Bioshock's case, the Steam version (quite unusually) has this thing too.
Okay, as good a game as BioShock is, the new Halo 3 footage has led me to retract my claim of GOTY/GOTG for BioShock.
You're not alone, anyway. When I see such claims from the review sites every six months, I know to take them with a grain of salt. :p
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Okay, as good a game as BioShock is, the new Halo 3 footage has led me to retract my claim of GOTY/GOTG for BioShock.
Good for you. But for your future reference, that first G means game, not graphics. :p
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I just played the demo, and I have two thoughts...
First, I think they did an excellent job at optimizing the engine. My wee little 6800 was able to run this game at 1280x1024 with minimal slowdowns (though sluggish when entering a new area). The shader support was also paramount, though could really use work in some areas. The world design was also very cool. While linear, I felt that the supplementary elements to the map design (random quakes, subtleties, etc) added more to the game than the map itself. I find it rare for such a detailed setting to exist, especially in today's games.
Secondly... WTF? What just happened? What is the idea behind any of this? Never before in my life have I ever been so confused by the concept of a game. While I made it to the end of the demo, I have no idea what I just did, or what it was for. I am literally dumbfounded.
With that said, the demo was filled with awesome and win. Best game I've seen in years, no question.
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Just picked up my copy from EB, i'll post some thoughts after i've had a few hours to play.
Edit: Got a few hours under my belt, and it's actually damned good. Not the be-all and end-all of gaming as some people made it out to be, but it's still a pretty awesome game. I'm really digging the whole immersion factor, keeping it strictly to the player's perspective. Obviously they took notice of how well it played in Half Life and FEAR. I'm also liking how deliciously twisted the story is, having just traveled through the medical area where sanity is certainly in short supply. Very unsettling.
On the down side, it does seem rather more linear than I would like. Also, the whole Big Daddy/Little Sister deal has been a bit too toned down for my liking. Depraved as it may make me seem, I really liked the earlier designs where the girl was so human, rather than some invincible demon child. Not to mention bringing it all down to a single-button choice as to whether kill or save the Little Sister, which really breaks the immersion factor. Sure, you'd have family watchdogs, religious groups and dumb parents up in arms if they'd made the player manually kill the little brat, but i'm sure they could have come up with a way that didn't just kill the mood. Something a little more complex given how it apparently represents some major moral choice throughout the game. Finally, more of a nitpick, without doubt the Big Daddy moves faster than conventional physics should allow. Seriously, he can zoom around a room even though he must weigh a bloody ton. Has he not heard of a little thing we like to call inertia? Still, given that i'm writing this as I telekinetically catch grenades and throw them around the room, I really shouldn't be so anal about physics violations. :p
Still, damned good. It's got style, atmosphere, and - shockingly - an interesting story! Should tide me over for a while, or at least until Mass Effect comes out.
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Well, enjoy it for me guys. I was looking forward to it but I doubt I'll ever be able to play it... :(
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That sounds pretty good. I'll have to see it for myself.
By the way, the PC version has some Securom-based copy protection scheme that only allows two installs with internet authentication. :rolleyes: I'm not sure how you reactivate it after that, but the 2k forums are up in flames over this. I am still trying to figure out whether the exe is also bugged with the usual Securom rootkit installer, in which case I'm holding off purchasing it until the cracks start to roll out.
make it five installs now, but still - never before I was so eager to find a cracked exe for the game (I bought the Limited Edition). The activation did not work at first - I spent almost two hours trying to persuade the game to accept my serial number. Even worse: there is currently no way to save the license file. I have been looking forward to play the game - now I am livid.
(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/bioshockbuttsechs.jpg)
Still, the game is damn good. Halo 3? Who cares - it may be a good game on xbox, but there are better games for pc in the pipeline.
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Check out the front page of www.pcgamer.com . A lot of mainstream sites are reporting on this issue now. I have actually heard little about the game itself and more about its DRM issues during the last day or two.
I'm going to pass on it for now. It doesn't seem to be quite the all-time classic title I was hoping for anyway. Lots of console influence. I'll get it once the price falls a bit and some cracks are available.
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Still, the game is damn good. Halo 3? Who cares - it may be a good game on xbox, but there are better games for pc in the pipeline.
Wouldn't it be prudent to judge that once it is out and available for consumption?
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More to the point, do we have to compare them? Or can we just enjoy both?
On the subject of the DRM issues - my house mate bought the collectors edition home today. His PC is elsewhere so we installed it on mine - and we did so without issue. No problems here, he's been playing for four hours straight now!
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Don't bring this int
Still, the game is damn good. Halo 3? Who cares - it may be a good game on xbox, but there are better games for pc in the pipeline.
Wouldn't it be prudent to judge that once it is out and available for consumption?
Don't start this into a Halo vs. anything thread, I'm speaking to anyone, not just specifically you Deep.
And 2k is doing a new "five by five" deal, where you can install the game five times on any five computers. Still too restricting for my case, but better.
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Finished it. Liked it. Will probably buy it.
I know the terms 'visceral' and 'cinematic' get thrown around a lot and overused, but I think in this case they really apply. The atmosphere and general FUBARed feeling of everything is great with all the propaganda and old radios playing and such. The weapons impressed me, not in their originality but in how they actually felt deadly and destructive. So far, Rapture gives me the willies; hearing a little girl sing lullabies whilst sucking out someone's brain juice with a big syringe is a little unnerving. :nervous:
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Plotwise, it's very well done. There's a twist in there that really throws you for a loop.
It also has the most disturbing audio log I've seen since "Glory" in System Shock 2. And it's exacerbated by a very dirty psychological trick in that area.
It's really too bad it has Prey "you cannot lose." syndrome.
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Nurse: Doctor? She's not scheduled for a facelift. Doctor! Stop cutting! For God's sake, stop cutting!
Doctor: *Whistles happily*
Nurse: Get the chief of surgery! Somebody get the chief of surgery, now!!
*Shudder*
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My cup runneth overrrrrr...... that log creeped me out bad.
I preordered it, and I honestly say, even though it has a crappy way of rendering it's widescreen mode out of the box, and the securom crap, I'm willing to put up with it, because I am totally blown away every time I jump back into Rapture. This game just gives me a great feeling of Dejavu. It points, nearly screams back to SS2 so much, in terms of what things do and how things happen in the story. I just absolutely love this gameplay.
I'd also like to say, where Ion Storm failed with Deus Ex invisible war, Irrational suceeded, in making a game look, run, and feel nearly the same on both platforms. The experience is truly phenominal. Incredible work they've done so far.
Sad to see though that Eric Brosius isn't the audio director for this game, rather, he's listed as "Audio Consultant". Still, the audio team did a great job, and I've gotten goosebumps more than I have with any other thriller since SS2.
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That one was good too mestufae, not the one I was refering to though. Gotten
mind control test yet?
Would you kindly snap the puppy's neck? ....then the next area has "How much is that doggy in the window" on the radio. Beuatifully done.
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Nurse: Doctor? She's not scheduled for a facelift. Doctor! Stop cutting! For God's sake, stop cutting!
Doctor: *Whistles happily*
Nurse: Get the chief of surgery! Somebody get the chief of surgery, now!!
*Shudder*
Oh, man. Yes.
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Nurse: Doctor? She's not scheduled for a facelift. Doctor! Stop cutting! For God's sake, stop cutting!
Doctor: *Whistles happily*
Nurse: Get the chief of surgery! Somebody get the chief of surgery, now!!
*Shudder*
Oh, man. Yes.
Of course the audio log is found right next to the Nurse's corpse.
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Mr. Bubbles.
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Still, the game is damn good. Halo 3? Who cares - it may be a good game on xbox, but there are better games for pc in the pipeline.
Wouldn't it be prudent to judge that once it is out and available for consumption?
I have played Halo 1 and 2 on pc. I neither not own an Xbox 360 nor do I plan to buy it. When Halo 3 comes out for pc it will be a mediocre game. It is as simple as that. Which does not mean, that it won't be great game on 360. Halo 1 and 2 were.
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That is a good point. The PC ports lose something, whether it be by age, controls, or the ridiculous requirements.
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Like Halo 2 for Vista. :ick:
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Plotwise, it's very well done. There's a twist in there that really throws you for a loop.
It also has the most disturbing audio log I've seen since "Glory" in System Shock 2. And it's exacerbated by a very dirty psychological trick in that area.
It's really too bad it has Prey "you cannot lose." syndrome.
Remind me. Which one was "Glory" ?
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Hydroponics Deck. Korenchin audio log. "Glory to the many (click)(oh jesus don't do it). I am a voice in their choir (bang, bang, bang, bang)"
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Like Halo 2 for Vista. :ick:
Works pretty damn well on XP... It's a bit funny though, I need to start it from the command prompt. Always reminds me of the good old DOS days...
Anyway. Fun game. But not great... Interesting plot though...
But Bioshock on the other hand got me really exited. Can't wait to play it. But I am pissed about the Securom ****. I regret installing the Demo, since I now have that damn securom leech haunting me all the time.
It shows up on Rootkit Revealer, but I hear tell that it's not really a rootkit. What's the deal with that?
Good thing I'm coming up on my annual OS reinstall...
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I really want it, but I refuse to buy it unless they wise up and stop putting stuff in it that might **** up my computer and can't be properly uninstalled even if it doesn't.
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Got it off Steam, it took three attempts before Steam would run it, but still, all in all a damn good game. Apparently the Authors have promised to remove the protection once the initial buying 'surge' is over, we will just have to wait and see I guess.
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Would you kindly snap the puppy's neck? ....then the next area has "How much is that doggy in the window" on the radio. Beuatifully done.
Ugh, just got to that one. Seriously winced when I heard the snap.
Yeeaah, I think that's enough BioShock for tonight...
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Got it off Steam, it took three attempts before Steam would run it, but still, all in all a damn good game. Apparently the Authors have promised to remove the protection once the initial buying 'surge' is over, we will just have to wait and see I guess.
Since they made that promise, I think they will do it. Think how much worse the publicity will look if they don't go through with it.
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I could play it 15 minoutes after it had been released on steam (Had preloaded it) and I hadent have any problems with it (completed it in like 2 days)
/Dice
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Well, I'm not 100% it wasn't a connection problem at this end, I have an old Alcatel Speedtouch USB, and whilst a good modem, it can be a bit quirky at times.
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Well, I'm not 100% it wasn't a connection problem at this end, I have an old Alcatel Speedtouch USB, and whilst a good modem, it can be a bit quirky at times.
Ok well I really dont know my ISP is a bit weird I am suppose to have 8Mbit internet (thats what I pay for and what it says on the bill) but I have 24Mbit, anyway I had to try and click on it a few times before it worked (the unlocking that is) but if you have trouble playing it just set Steam to offline Mode then it should work (Once you have unlocked it that is)
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So did anyone else find the final battle to be a bit easy on "medium" difficulty?
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So did anyone else find the final battle to be a bit easy on "medium" difficulty?
I was just thinking that. The electro-gel is freaking dynamite in that match, not to mention all the propane cannisters lying everywhere.
Still, I have high hopes for "hard" difficulty. Now all I need to do is find the time to play it.
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Yup, completed it yesterday, nice little twist, but in all honesty I did kind of see it coming...
I was running around thinking to myself, so.. when exactly did I agree to be Atlas' little revenge tool?
The final battle wasn't very challenging, I'll admit, but still a thoroughly enjoyable game :) First one I've finished in quite a while.
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It was pretty good. They did a good job with the little girls...
"Why won't you move Mr. Bubbles?" :(
Always such an "aawwww" moment. Sounds so sad.
I did get a good chuckle at the end though... Seeing the little brats madly stabbing the big bad naked man... :lol:
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I thought the story was brilliant all the way through to the end of the second act. After that twist, though, the narrative seems to lose steam and it felt to me like the writers weren't sure where to go with it.
And Fontaine isn't half the antagonist Ryan is.
Not to mention the horrendously unsatisfying ending cinematic. I got the 'bad' ending - is the good one any better?
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I got the 'bad' ending - is the good one any better?
A happily ever after, with a whole bunch of chicks... Nothing special...
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How does one go about seeing the "bad" ending?
(Also, has anyone tried the new nVidia beta drivers specially made for Bioshock? I keep getting it come out to desktop whilst I'm playing - it doesn't crash, it just minimizes the game and I'm able to alt+tab back in..)
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I used the beta drivers. Didn't have any problems.
The ending you get depends on whether you choose to harvest or rescue the little sisters. I'll let you figure out which one's which.
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How does one go about seeing the "bad" ending?
(Also, has anyone tried the new nVidia beta drivers specially made for Bioshock? I keep getting it come out to desktop whilst I'm playing - it doesn't crash, it just minimizes the game and I'm able to alt+tab back in..)
Well, I think it's to do with Harvesting the Little Sisters instead of releasing them, soppy old sentimental git that I am couldn't harvest a single Sister, let them all free
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Well, I think it's to do with Harvesting the Little Sisters instead of releasing them, soppy old sentimental git that I am couldn't harvest a single Sister, let them all free
Did you get weird polygamy vibe from the end of that cinematic, too?
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Yes, yes I did, there was something weird about the sight of several hands, with wedding rings on them, grasping the players' hand in the summary at the end
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I like the very notion that they weren't mentally scared for life after you saved them - and were able to go on to whatever lives they had.
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Alas, the main character had rather more trouble resuming a normal life ;)
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/fittingin.jpg
IMPORTANT! For some reason the Spoiler tag doesn't hide links, if you don't want to possibly ruin the game story to some degree, DON'T CLICK on that link. I know it sounds like a dumb warning, all things considered, but I'm not going to be accused to ruining anything for anyone ;)
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Tenenbaum: Okay, it's safe to remove the Big Daddy armour now.
Player: *Struggle*
Tenenbaum: Oh, right, it locks solid when you first put it on. My bad.
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I'm going to wait till securom gets disabled before buying it...
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Apparently, at least according to the BioShock team, it was a requirement of the distribution deal with 2K Games that they add the copy protection. That, to me, does not bode well for future 2K releases.
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Fun Bioshock fact:
The player's name is Jack.
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On the subject of names:
Thematic Andrew Ryan = Ayn Rand
Atlas = Atlas Shrugged
Fontaine = The Fountainhead
Doesn't it blow your mind?
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Yup, I'd already figured out the anagram hidden in the first one and suspected the second ;)
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I kinda figured Andrew Ryan was a kickback to when it was gonna be about Nazis. ARyan and all.
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If anyone can take a screenshot of the yellow text that appears on the walls of Arcadia, i would like to see what it says. It looks like its written using some standard "symbol" font. I have the game for X360, so I can't take screenies.
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I'm going to wait till securom gets disabled before buying it...
I'm with you there, although they have to remove the stupid activation crap first.
I couldn't even be bothered to warez it because I'm so sick of this kind of thing...
My current games treatment is something like this:
* If Game is good and has no copy protection (Like Jets'n'Guns, NWN, Darwinia, DoW:WA), buy no matter what the cost.
+ If Game has copy protection - Warez and Crack it and play game. If game is really good, buy game. (I have many such games; All bought and unopened because I don't want the copy-protection to ruin the fantastic experience of the cracked warzed copies. Irony?)
- If Game or program requires activation, I won't even look at it. It is Veto'd no matter how good (bribed reviewers say) it is. (MS' activation, Steam, Stardock and Telltale's systems all fall into this catagory, to my great sadness :()
Games and even Applications are falling more and more to the bottom of that list.
But on the bright side, it's pushing me more and more towards Linux. Once all games require activation, I can happily move to Linux as my primary OS since the only reason I use Windows now is for the games...
Vista+DX10 will also help that push...
Then Windows' ONLY advantage for me over Linux will be gone...
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copy protection brocken version hit the internet yesterday :) apparently all you have to do, is install it and it works perfectly.
does anyone else think that creating copy protection is a major waste of time these days?
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It was cracked and activation removed and working at least 4 days ago... By some obscure little operator. The big scene groups usually take a little more time with these high hype new god games...
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yeh they make sure o stuff ;)
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copy protection brocken version hit the internet yesterday :) apparently all you have to do, is install it and it works perfectly.
does anyone else think that creating copy protection is a major waste of time these days?
Well put it this way - it bought them a week of sales from would-be pirates had the crack been around from day one. Plus, DRM providers usually take on the full technical task of wrapping the EXE inside their encrypted wrapper, so all the publisher has to do is pay either a relatively small flat fee (probably an ongoing one in Bioshock's case, as it relies on Securom servers) that probably accounts for a fraction of that first week's sales. It'd be a stupid business decision NOT to use it, and that's probably why the protection business has been pretty profitable for almost ten years.
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I seriously doubt that anyone who is willing to spend a few days downloading 7.5GB of data off a torrent is going to have any problem at all with waiting another day for the crack.
I think the software publishers know very well that the protection schemes they implement are useless for their original purpose, but they don't particularly care. As long as they can put up a show for the shareholders and simply make it appear that they're doing something about the issue, it's good enough. If it helps them cut down on the used game market, it's even better (this actually seems to be the real point of internet activation schemes, since they do in fact work here to some degree).
Also, 2k=Take two, right? The people whose soda machine was smashed by Dr. Smart? Maybe he was on to something there. :D
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We should all send an apology to Derek Smart considering that his rage against 2k is something we can all share now :)
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I seriously doubt that anyone who is willing to spend a few days downloading 7.5GB of data off a torrent is going to have any problem at all with waiting another day for the crack.
Well you'd be wrong in at least two cases - both me and a friend finally broke and bought it (in my case, the day before the crack was out). I suspect the same is true for a good number of people, which surely offsets the marginal cost of Securom - which is all done as part of the disc mastering process anyway. And, as for 7.5GB, a person with a fairly modest internet connection can download that much in just over a day.
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Your case is rare. The people that desperate to get a game quickly generally preorder it well in advance. :p
The cracks have been available for several days now anyway, if you know where to look. Securom is used in many other programs and was reverse-engineered long ago. The version with internet activation appears in various productivity software, although Bioshock has been the first game to use it.
I am not sure if I should bother with this game at all, but even if I was buying it, I was going to wait for a crack anyway. I'm not about to let these games to put their garbage on my system even if I do have a legal copy. (Securom blacklists Process Explorer, a task manager replacement that I use)
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well i kinda like it, the blinking lights piss me off though
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I just got this yesterday, a little late to the party, but better late than never. I'm playing through on medium and I've gotten to Neptune's Bounty so far. Sometimes it feels too easy sometimes too hard, so I guess that evens out. Vita=chambers seem kinda cheap, but I suppose there's no shame in using them since they're part of the game. This is one of the first games to impress me graphically in a long time and the engine seems well optimized since it can look good and not run like crap at the same time.
Finally, a question for you gentlemen: did you choose to save or harvest the little sisters?
Myself, I never have it in me to be the bad guy in games where that's an option. KotOR, Neverwinter Nights, etc. I'm the good guy. Although they do a fairly good job of muddling which is really the "good" choice, it's still pretty apparent with one being a more selfish than the other and all that.
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You will find out later why you're able to use the vita-chambers. I initially saved the little sisters because of the x360 achievement. But the second run through (still in progress due to halo3), i'm harvesting them. They need a different harvest animation to make the game rated AO.
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They need a different harvest animation to make the game rated AO.
I'm not sure the game would have been very well recieved if each time you pressed "Harvest", your character would whip out a bowie-knife and make like he was cleaning a trout.
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I played the demo for this, and the story that I saw didn't impress me. Does the full version beginning have a more in depth story, or does it simply get better after the second level?
P.S. I loved the first level, awesome fire effects.
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It gets better I think - the demo leaves you with a lot of unsolved mysteries and turns still to discover. If you enjoy the gameplay then it's probably worth sticking at it!
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As for the game itself, I'm near the end. The beginning 10 minutes were pretty awesome, then it slowly got less awesome as the time went on - the biggest problem are the splicers. They're just so damn repetitive, they always pop up when you expect them to, or worse, when you don't - they'll wander around the level, and respawn in rooms you just cleared five minutes prior - this is a huge pain because it's nigh-impossible to not fight them and conserve ammo. Nomatter where you go, splicers will be there. However, about 3/4ths through the game starts getting really good again, and around the end it gets absolutely awesome.
It's definitely not a 10/10, I'd probably give it an 8/10. It still can be quite fun however.
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I read this (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/review/R117563.html) nice review.
On a side note, does this (http://search.ebay.com/BioShock_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQa10244Z24269QQa14Z24223QQalistZa10244Q2ca14QQfromZR40QQgcsZ1135QQpfidZ1413QQpfmodeZ2QQreqtypeZ1QQsacatZQ2d100) seem fishy to you?
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My only complaint about BioShock is that, since I finished it, I haven't played it again since.
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My only complaint about BioShock is that, since I finished it, I haven't played it again since.
/me agrees.
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O SHI- "Would you kindly..."
:eek: :mad:
Edit: I added Spoilers just in case, although it's really very minor, I don't want to spoil the fun in any way. - Flipside
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My only complaint about BioShock is that, since I finished it, I haven't played it again since.
I'm replaying it just to get the bad ending (and get the last three achievements on x360), and doing it on easy instead of hard this time so i can just wrench things to death. Haven't touched it since Halo3 and Orange Box came out though.
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The Little Sisters training place freaks me right the freak out.
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There is a very funny video review of this game going around the internet:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock
:D
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Finished it. Loved it. I wouldn't exactly say the last fight was too easy, more like too short. I would've liked for it to be a long drawn out fight except that I was running out of first aid kits by the end, so I guess if they had made the enemy's attacks do less damage and the fight last longer it would have been just right.
Nevertheless, it was great, the first game in a long time to keep me up far later than is prudent, which I think is the mark of an excellent game.
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Does anyone know how to get rid of the rootkit from the demo?