[I_E_Maverick]

bluestar finished

[aipz]

SH Death Cloud (needs LOD0) (not sure how to approach this, ideas anyone?)

The Death Cloud should have a skeleton superstructure inside and a cloud of particles that surround it /forming
an unpenetrable cloud using sight only/

In the inner structure there should be a heavily armed control center (as seen in the A call to arms) and the main motors
along with the thermonuclear missle launchers...

The size of that thing will have to be tremendous, at leat similar to the current VPK or even bigger:nervous:
EDIT: also capships will have to be able to fly inside the Death Cloud which makes things tricky...

That will be it i guess;)

[Fade Rathnik]

well my call on the SH death cloud... with how large it is, you might at well make it a nebula when you are fighting inside it because its so big, i mean lets think about it. Any mission that has a SH death cloud might as well be broken down into two missions, the first with the death cloud on approach, even then it never really approaches is just phases in around its enemy. So it could just be red alerted in.

[Prophet]

You want to hear my opinion? Thats ok, I'll tell it anyway...

I think we should consider should we actually model the deathcloud. I may not be fully aware whats going on in the SCP department and what is the engine capable of nowdays. But unless the deathcloud can be implement so that it really works and looks like on TV, then don't waste time and effort. At least not yet.

There still are many ships that need to be done. And that have more uses than the deathcloud. Just face it, it really didn't appear that many times during the war without destroying everything...
(dunno about the first Shadow war though)

Here's my suggestion... Should the deathcloud be needed, use backgrounds. Should not be too hard to make it look like in the battle of Coriana 6... (Witohut the goofy "structure" that I always considered to be a bit silly). And since there is some effort directed towards animated backgrounds in SCP, the result should be quite good actually...

[aipz]

Prophet's idea is the most CPU friendly...
It definetly is not a top priority craft...
Besides the death cloud would be implemented in just 1-3 missions...

[Roanoke]

Originally posted by karajorma
FA could use a narn transport of some kind. Apparently most people have been using EA Shuttles cause there is nothing suitable to use for the Narn.

how about a de-armed Raider Battle Wagon ?

[Trivial Psychic]

That's a narn frieghter conversion.  The transport is much smaller, capable of entering docking bays.  A most noteable example of this ship is in S1 "By Any Means Necessary", but it doesn't stay intact long.

[IPAndrews]

I believe the Raider Battlewagon is a Narn freighter conversion.

[Prophet]

So I hear... But what exactly in it is Narnish?

It's made of two boxes, engine and a spinning thingy.

The boxes look more like EA lego design.
Engine is the same kind as in other EA freighters.
The spinning thingy is ofcourse not needed in a freighter, but is only there for the Zephyrs...

What does it have that indicates that it is Narn design? Other than people who say it is...

Granted, the older Narn vessels have certain roughness that is found in EA vessels, but they still have the "sleekness" that is characteristic to Narns ships. Two boxes, engine and a spinning thingy are not sleek.

If it is to be made in to a freighter. I vote for a universal crapheap that all races use for low value freight.

[aipz]

If it is to be made in to a freighter. I vote for a universal crapheap that all races use for low value freight.

I would say it could fit the Narn and League of Non-aligned worlds...
As those factions already use similar missles

The freighters should be bulky and cumbersome as they can carry more cargo...

[Prophet]

Originally posted by aipz
The freighters should be bulky and cumbersome as they can carry more cargo...

True... As many FS freighters are. But how much wasted surface does the EA freighter have? It could easily carry twice the amount of pods. (I think Buda5 raider campaign had nice superfreighter, anyone remember that?)

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Roanoke
how about a de-armed Raider Battle Wagon ?

Far too big. Launching one of those from the launch bay of a G'Quon would look somewhat silly

[Trivial Psychic]

Originally posted by Prophet
So I hear... But what exactly in it is Narnish?

It's made of two boxes, engine and a spinning thingy.

The boxes look more like EA lego design.
Engine is the same kind as in other EA freighters.
The spinning thingy is ofcourse not needed in a freighter, but is only there for the Zephyrs...

What does it have that indicates that it is Narn design? Other than people who say it is...

Granted, the older Narn vessels have certain roughness that is found in EA vessels, but they still have the "sleekness" that is characteristic to Narns ships. Two boxes, engine and a spinning thingy are not sleek.

If it is to be made in to a freighter. I vote for a universal crapheap that all races use for low value freight.

You're getting mixed up between the Raider Carrier and the Raider Battlewagon.  You're describing the carrier, but its the battlewagon that's supposedly a converted narn freighter.

[ShockWave]

Originally posted by karajorma


Far too big. Launching one of those from the launch bay of a G'Quon would look somewhat silly

If you're looking for a small Narn transport, there's one in the episode where the TV crew come to Babylon 5 - I think it's Series 2, "And Now for a Word".

The craft looks like the front half of a Narn Heavy Fighter fitted to a boxy rear end (makes sense for a cargo vessel), has 4 engines and a pair of cannon (I think; it's been a while since I've seen the episode).  The craft attacks a Centauri transport carrying weapons outside Babylon 5 (and is filmed by the IGN news crew) before being splashed by a Starfury (anyone remember the "Fox Five" call made during that attack..?    )

ShockWave

[Trivial Psychic]

THAT's the Narn transport.  As I already said, it was also seen in S1 "By Any Means Necessary".

[karajorma]

Yep. That is the one I was on about needing

[Fabbro]

Isnt the battlewagon the round one? Because that looks pretty narnish, with the red and black strips going down it.

[aipz]

So we might say we're considering 2 ships here:
1. Narn transport seen in those eps mentioned above
2. Some closer not identified Narn freighter on which the Raider Battlewagon was based
As I assume

[Prophet]

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
You're getting mixed up between the Raider Carrier and the Raider Battlewagon.  You're describing the carrier, but its the battlewagon that's supposedly a converted narn freighter.

But... I... ****.
Meh. Smoeone must have edited the post after I read it... Yes, that must be it. This is a conspiracy! You are all after me!
But you cant harm me. For I have a watermelon! Yes! And inside that watermelon is a troll... It is a troll that can destroy people with a mere thought! HAH! Yes it can! So stay away from me! All of you!
*runs away laughing* :dizzy: