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The TSJ Icanus, the Terran Superjuggernaut. Am I the only one who thinks that having the Earth Alliance build a ridiculously big superjuggernaut is unrealistic? What do you think?

The Icanus rocks, it shouldn't be touched at all.
9 (52.9%)
Keep it the same, but make the Punisher a bit weaker, so the Gigas has a chance of winning.
2 (11.8%)
Tone it down, make it a little smaller , give it a few less hitpoints and make the armament a little less powerful.
1 (5.9%)
Make the Punisher's damage a little less insane and make the Icanus smaller, less protected and armed.
1 (5.9%)
Get rid of it and make up a better way to kill the Gigas.
3 (17.6%)
Keep it the same, but make it only 50% operational by the time the Gigas arrives.
1 (5.9%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: November 06, 2006, 12:14:09 pm

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Offline Snail

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Re: Icanus
Reply #40 on: October 30, 2006, 01:37:57 pm
Actually, no, since I don't remember much of S:AH. I played it a long time ago, when it first came out, IIRC. IMO it was a mish-mash of Inferno and FS1 ships. I don't see what's so good about it. :doubt:

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Offline KappaWing

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Re: Icanus
Reply #41 on: October 30, 2006, 01:58:38 pm
Quote from: Snail on October 30, 2006, 01:37:57 pm
Actually, no, since I don't remember much of S:AH. I played it a long time ago, when it first came out, IIRC. IMO it was a mish-mash of Inferno and FS1 ships. I don't see what's so good about it. :doubt:

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It was a bridge between Fs1 and EA in Inferno. Sort of like Star Wars III, only better done.
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Offline Dark Hunter

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Re: Icanus
Reply #42 on: October 30, 2006, 06:00:01 pm
It will now be replaced by INF:A. By the way, how is that going?
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Offline Woomeister

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Re: Icanus
Reply #43 on: October 31, 2006, 10:24:57 am
Check the INFA thread for details on progress
 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Icanus
Reply #44 on: October 31, 2006, 08:41:45 pm
Quote from: Woomeister on October 30, 2006, 01:30:23 pm
No, as your making assumptions based off SAH
Sorry if I sound completely up myself, but unless Alliance portrays the fledgling EA has a benevolent, utopian civilisation, the Icanus being built as a weapon of terror is the only logical conclusion one can make! I mean, a vessel such as this simply cannot be tactically viable in a war, even in the contorted conflicts of the Freespace universe.
 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Icanus
Reply #45 on: October 31, 2006, 10:41:18 pm
Sure it can. Park it in back of the Sol node and let 'er rip on the Punisher whenever the Shivans show up again. Hell, park it in front if you want. The Icanus is the EA's version of the Colossus.
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Offline Woomeister

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Re: Icanus
Reply #46 on: November 01, 2006, 11:47:28 am
The Icanus was designed as a mobile weapon. It was supposed to take the fight to the Shivans no matter were they show up in the system. Just in case any form of blockade at the node fails.
 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Icanus
Reply #47 on: November 01, 2006, 08:59:58 pm
Well, okay, you're the writer after all. :doubt:
 

Offline SadisticSid

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Re: Icanus
Reply #48 on: November 02, 2006, 04:07:01 am
It boggles my mind to see some of you whinging about the feasibility of the storyline when you haven't even experienced it. In hindsight it was probably a bad idea to give away so many hints about it.
 

Offline Woomeister

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Re: Icanus
Reply #49 on: November 02, 2006, 10:14:37 am
I find it more amusing that they aren't all ganged around the MT forums demanding the removal of the Apocalypse :p
 

Offline spartan_0214

Re: Icanus
Reply #50 on: November 02, 2006, 10:21:08 am
I hate having a Terran Juggernaut....Why don't we just make more Colossus-class ships. They kick ass, take names, then kick more ass. I like them. The Icanus is okay, but it's only one ship. IMHO, one ship is a Terran disaster waiting to happen. Many Colossus-class ships is a much better use of resources.

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Re: Icanus
Reply #51 on: November 02, 2006, 10:24:09 am
Not really as the Colossus wasn't that effective against a ship of the same class.
 

Offline Dark Hunter

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Re: Icanus
Reply #52 on: November 02, 2006, 10:26:15 am
The Colossus was a juggernaut.  :rolleyes:

Anyway, that giant watergun couldn't handle even a couple of Sathanases, let alone the Gigas or Gargant. The Icanus is a bit overbalanced, but a great deal of that could be handled with a simple table edit on the "Damage per Second" entry in the USilv (or whatever entry that is).

Hmmm.... go and bug MT people? To what purpose? They're making even less progress than the main Inferno mod (no offense, Woo)!
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Offline spartan_0214

Re: Icanus
Reply #53 on: November 02, 2006, 10:28:51 am
can anyone tell me the Colossus specifications? (I'm at a location as to where I cannot access the information)

The Colossus is more balanced than the Icanus. And besides, the Icanus looks like CRAP!

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Offline Woomeister

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Re: Icanus
Reply #54 on: November 02, 2006, 10:29:10 am
Quote from: Dark Hunter on November 02, 2006, 10:26:15 am
Hmmm.... go and bug MT people? To what purpose? They're making even less progress than the main Inferno mod (no offense, Woo)!
No I mean about the fact they have a big super weapon of doom as well, but its ours that has to go it seems...

The Icanus isn't designed for just beam freeing and letting rip, so we don't need to edit the USilv as it will be disabled in any mission that I don't plan to fire it in.
 

Offline Dark Hunter

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Reply #55 on: November 02, 2006, 10:33:05 am
Quote from: spartan_0214 on November 02, 2006, 10:28:51 am
can anyone tell me the Colossus specifications? (I'm at a location as to where I cannot access the information)

The Colossus is more balanced than the Icanus. And besides, the Icanus looks like CRAP!

If by "balanced" you mean "sucky", then I agree.
And what would you make a giant planetary bombardment weapons transport look like, hmm? Icanus looks fine.
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Offline Woomeister

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Re: Icanus
Reply #56 on: November 02, 2006, 10:39:03 am
I do have another possible model for the Icanus, but it's rather high poly and would probably kill lower end systems and it would have to be mandatory as it's too different to the current one.
I tried mapping it and found it to be a pain to do.
 

Offline Darius

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Reply #57 on: November 02, 2006, 10:42:12 am
Icanus looks fine. It's a sleek warship with a great big gun bolted at the side: you can see how the Punisher would look as an orbital platform.

Quote from: Woomeister on November 02, 2006, 10:39:03 am
I do have another possible model for the Icanus, but it's rather high poly and would probably kill lower end systems and it would have to be mandatory as it's too different to the current one.
I tried mapping it and found it to be a pain to do.

Haven't you already done a higher-poly version of the Icanus?

Here we go. How's that coming along?
 

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Re: Icanus
Reply #58 on: November 02, 2006, 10:44:49 am
Mines not that high poly though. It's less than 1.5k IIRC.
 

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Reply #59 on: November 02, 2006, 11:07:12 am
I'm fine with the Icanus as it is.

Kinda why I've been avoiding this thread really. I don't see anything wrong with it...

but dang, the cannon on that other Icanus is BIG... makes me want to try and get me hands on the POF, and then find a use for it :lol:
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