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Offline Luis Dias

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http://www.gamesradar.com/mass-effect-andromedas-malefemale-heroes-are-brother-and-sister-and-dads-around-too/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=grtw

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"At E3 we got to see our female Ryder character and now we're seeing the male Ryder character. What a lot of people don't know is that these two are brother and sister, and they both exist in the game world at the same time. So, if you're playing as the sister Ryder, your brother is somewhere in the universe. And another fun little titbit is the character you saw two E3's ago in the N7 is actually their father. So we've got the full Ryder family now revealed".



I can already smell the monomyth cliché. Son and daughter have to convince father he's doing A Really Bad Thing. They have to go through laundry **** between their relationship while fighting monsters. At the end they convince father that "You were right. You were right about me... Tell your sister [/brother]... you were right... ", then pops dies and they still have to figure out how to beat the real big meanie at the end.

 

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And for example, finding another species which will REALLY resemble humans with it's looks would be rather weird.

I don't know about that.

While part of me is pretty sure that we may have trouble recognizing alien life when we eventually do find it, another part of me wouldn't be at all surprised to run into something vaguely human in appearance, thanks to developmental biology.

Oddly enough, there is a stage in gestation where you're beyond ye-olde-ball-of-cells and into actual developmental features when it is nigh-impossible to tell a pig, an alligator, a chicken, a fish, and a human apart visually.  All of these organisms pass through a couple stages, first where their gene expression is near-identical but their appearance is different, then there appearance is identical and their gene expression is different, then back to the first case, and finally both diverge.  This is because, on Earth at least, there are certain physical features that absolutely must develop at a certain point in time for a viable animal to be produced, and this is - in part - why pretty much all vertebrates (even fish!) have the same basic features - 4 limbs, a head, and a tail.  I would not be at all surprised if we ever find planets that could support human life that the life that developed on them is physically very superficially similar to life on Earth because of this.  Mutations are random, but selection pressures and successful strategies to overcome them are not.

While Star Trek is often guilty of annoying me with things like "oooh nose ridges," the concept that alien life may look a great deal like life as we know it if it develops under similar planetary conditions really doesn't.  Throw in a different set of planetary conditions, though, and all bets are off.
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Sentient plant life? What about large colonies of plankton-like life forms doubling as an organic data storage system? Let's call it/them Pattern Jugglers, for example.

 

Offline General Battuta

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this game doesn't seem very exciting yet

 
this game doesn't seem very exciting yet

I second that. Honestly, I still feel like I was burned too harshly by ME3 (doesn't help I bought it at release, apparently DLC helps), in particular the ending, which really affects my interest and excitement for Andromeda, especially as it's basically 'let's move the story as far away as possible from the entire galaxy of the three games prior'.
Besides, I think it would be interesting to play a ME4 that starts right after ME3 so a lot of the missions would involve helping to rebuild, solve lingering conflicts, make sure supplies can go where they should, etc. That could've brought back the 'choose which colony you'll help over the other' that one of the ME1 trailers suggested.


I'll give it a chance, of course, but not at full price. Probably the inevitable 'GOTY' version with all DLC for 30 euros at most, if it truly turns out well.
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Offline Kszyhu

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A version of ME with all the DLC included? Now that would be something...

 

Offline Luis Dias

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can't really argue with you Battuta. hopefully they will be able to amp up the hype in November 7. Because Hype is good. Hype is great.

 

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As for humanoids... I get your point clearly. Besides "dating and drinking" there are also gameplay mechanics. Admit, it would rather look awkward to have a Hanar or Elcor squad mate :P. Putting some humanism into aliens also makes the interaction between characters easier (Sheploo- Garrus bros). But hey, we're going to another galaxy.

The problem is not just the interaction, it is also the design of envoirments and props which is holding back more exotic alien designs. How would a tool look like made for a manipulator which can grip without an opposible thumb? Would you recongnize it as such in an interaction?

While in a more committed setting than Mass Effect has been previously, you can technically do that by teaching the audience a new visual language, but it is questionable if you have the scope and mechanics to foster such long term engagement. (Especially since there are currently no plans to make a follow-up to Andromeda because of good reasonstm)

can't really argue with you Battuta. hopefully they will be able to amp up the hype in November 7. Because Hype is good. Hype is great.

They will but I am not sure if it will be all golden, we will have to see... EA EU-devision also has quite a PR-stun planned (if the whole thing works out)
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Offline Luis Dias

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I'm betting they are really planning a sequel to Andromeda, but its development ultimately depends on Andromeda's success.

It may also depend on the quality of that other secretive ip they were developing and for which no word as yet come out.

 

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I'm betting they are really planning a sequel to Andromeda, but its development ultimately depends on Andromeda's success.

It may also depend on the quality of that other secretive ip they were developing and for which no word as yet come out.

Andromeda at this state is mostly about roping in new customers (there is market research floating around that ME is most prominent for the ME3 ending-fallout, and that the brand has enough room to grow in the market) ... as such their definition of "success" might have a high celling

... and yes they are saddled with at least one (I keep hearing of two, though) project that they contractly obligated to follow-up on because they needed to recruit some recurring talent - those project but don't require to become anything ultimately but another hyped-mystery-box-protfolio depending on how things go...
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Dad, brother, and sister.... and presumably the brother/sister are the playable options.

What are the chances they go with something interesting instead of:
1.  What Luis said, or
2.  Happy happy family explores the galaxy and then Dad gets killed off.  Or sibling.

You know its coming.  One of the three Ryders is going to get killed off because some writer at BioWare will think that makes it compelling, even though they did exactly that at the beginning of DA2 and everyone can see it coming miles away.

What we need here is a godamned space western where the family rides off into the sunset at the end.
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Plot twist: halfway through the game the player characters is killed and the rest of the game is played as the other sibling.

Wouldn't be better, but it'd probably be a bit more interesting.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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It would be really cool but people would be really pissed off. "DO YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT AFTER *I* PICKED THE SUPERIOR MALE GENDER I'M FORCED TO FINISH THIS GAME LIKE A GIRL? A GIIIRL???"

Then again, I'm warming even to that idea.

 

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Bonus points if the class/specialization you picked at the beginning of the game, your sibling picked the exact opposite and there was no re-spec option.  This is veering into "objectively terrible idea" territory real quick, but it's at least entertaining.

 

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And then the player's helmet comes off and it's a troll face underneath.

I think we're onto something here.
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Why did they chose such polygonal environment to showcase the tech? Looks kinda meh..
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Offline Kszyhu

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Why did they chose such polygonal environment to showcase the tech? Looks kinda meh..

The Bioware's thought process: "No, of course no one remember the Collectors, just add some green glow on those old textures and we are done."

 

Offline Luis Dias

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I'm just glad we will experience one Mass Effect again, with a lot of graphical upgrades.

I wished they really went forward with the remastering of Mass Effect.

 

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