[The E]

However as an owner of a VR headset I am also looking at it from a VR perspective, too. Face tracking is part of the whole package along with body tracking and finger tracking. Sooner or later all these complimentary tracking technologies will merge into a pretty realistic and immersive online avatars for VR games. These are just the first steps into that direction, and it is good to see CIG being pioneers in this area.

You do know that a VR headset is very good at blocking the parts of your face this tech is accessing, right.

And while I agree that this is a tech that is sure to happen at some point in the future, I don't think that SC is the project to do it in.

After all, they haven't even been able to do what should be simple: Make a compelling single-player game.

[Firesteel]

I've been thinking, "I only pledge 65 bucks, 5 years ago. I think it's worth it to keep just to see the game when it's out."

I have too many good games in my backlog and wishlist, and already not enough time to get to them all. I've finally started the refund process.

That's the spirit, you can get a (mostly) finished brand new AAA game with that and still have 5 bucks left.

Also:

[Firesteel]

After all, they haven't even been able to do what should be simple: Make a compelling single-player game.

But they're actually making the first 100% interactive movie ever so cut them some slack. It's not like any other games have ever done ****loads of mocap or had film quality cutscenes. Plus they need perfect flight modeling before they can do any mission design prototyping, don't you know how game development works?

[The E]

But they're actually making the first 100% interactive movie ever so cut them some slack. It's not like any other games have ever done ****loads of mocap or had film quality cutscenes. Plus they need perfect flight modeling before they can do any mission design prototyping, don't you know how game development works?

I think cutting them 3 years and a couple dozen million dollars worth of slack should be enough. Like, I'm reasonably certain that if S42 ever comes out? It's not going to be nowhere near as good as Infinite Warfare.....

[666maslo666]

You do know that a VR headset is very good at blocking the parts of your face this tech is accessing, right.

True for an external webcam, but future headsets will likely have face tracking cameras built it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qboqTI56tcw

[Scotty]

But they're actually making the first 100% interactive movie ever so cut them some slack. It's not like any other games have ever done ****loads of mocap or had film quality cutscenes. Plus they need perfect flight modeling before they can do any mission design prototyping, don't you know how game development works?

I think cutting them 3 years and a couple dozen million dollars worth of slack should be enough. Like, I'm reasonably certain that if S42 ever comes out? It's not going to be nowhere near as good as Infinite Warfare.....

I think this is the most damning sentiment it's possible to have, with a AAA studio putting out a better game in literally 10% of the time for at best equivalent funding.

[The E]

Infinite Warfare was pretty amazing, it's true.

[Scotty]

I certainly enjoyed it, yes.  It could have stood to be longer, the pacing of the entire campaign was ludicrously cramped even if single-mission events felt good, and the flight model was simple.

But the simple flight model was also, importantly, actually fun, and the gunplay felt good.  Which is about 95% of a decent game when it comes right down to it.

[Firesteel]

A fun flight model? Bah, we need it to be realistic and tedious!

All joking aside Infinite Warfare certainly flies in the face of whatever in god's name is going on with SQ42. So does House of the Dying Sun though it may have taken 4-5 years for it to actually see a final release with a fraction of the resources.

[Scourge of Ages]

So does House of the Dying Sun though it may have taken 4-5 years for it to actually see a final release with a fraction of the resources.

Without any figures to go on, I'd guess that the budget for Dying Sun was less than the furniture budget for Star Citizen.

[Aesaar]

So does House of the Dying Sun though it may have taken 4-5 years for it to actually see a final release with a fraction of the resources.

Without any figures to go on, I'd guess that the budget for Dying Sun was less than the furniture budget for Star Citizen.

Yeah but HotDS didn't have facetracking, now did it?  Therefore, it's inferior to SC, because facetracking is what every previous space sim was missing.  Non-****ty flight models and fun combat are so last decade.  SC is so revolutionary.

[Firesteel]

What gave you the idea that a game about flying spaceships needed to have well done spaceship flying? CRoberts is a visionary in making a space combat sim into a social game by convincing everyone to stay grounded because of the flight mechanics. We must instead hang out in sci-fi bars and pantomime drink. That's what the people really want. All hail CRoberts.

[Colonol Dekker]

He's making a game engine to real time render the FMV privateer 2 cutscenes.

This is bad.

[Buckshee Rounds]

I fail to see why online games would benefit from "facial animations tracking" 666maslo 666.

Interacting with other people is important in online games and obviously face is an important part of human interactions. So the benefit is obvious. I mean, it probably wont make or break an online game but it is a nice detail.

However as an owner of a VR headset I am also looking at it from a VR perspective, too. Face tracking is part of the whole package along with body tracking and finger tracking. Sooner or later all these complimentary tracking technologies will merge into a pretty realistic and immersive online avatars for VR games. These are just the first steps into that direction, and it is good to see CIG being pioneers in this area.

They aren't pioneering ****. The PS2 had the EyeToy which could track your arm and body movements - it shipped with a game where you could box against an ai opponent and considering the era it actually worked really well (speaking for myself here). Crucially of course, it was really fun to play, which is more than anyone can say for SC.

[666maslo666]

They aren't pioneering ****. The PS2 had the EyeToy which could track your arm and body movements

we are talking face tracking here

[Scotty]

maslo it's genuinely entertaining to witness how utterly deluded you are about anything SC.

[Cobra]

They aren't pioneering ****. The PS2 had the EyeToy which could track your arm and body movements

we are talking face tracking here

Face tracking has been a thing for years, just not in a video game. There's a program on Steam that does a really good job of it. And do you really expect players to actually sit down across from each other and talk like they would in real life?

[Axem]

Can't wait to do this in Star Citizen with my immersion goggles.

[StarSlayer]

Can't wait to do this in Star Citizen with my immersion goggles.

I'm sold, CIG take my money.  :p

[CT27]

All this makes me wonder what the BP team could have done with Star Citizen's level of money.